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      patrick0525
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      My pfSense box consists of a Intel kaby lake G4560T 2.9Ghz 35watt cpu, a HP NC364T quad nic and a Liteon LMT-128M6M msata ssd 128GB.
      Update: running openvpn, pfblockerng, suricata, squid and squid guard

      Reduced idle consumption from 23.4 watts( 2017 Thermaltake 500W smart series 80+) to 18.4 watts using a re-dedicated eBay 2011 Dell 80+ gold efficiency power supply. Saving is approximately $6.50/year. PSU costs $15 including shipping.

      Cannot justify buying a brand new $50 after rebate gold efficiency PSU. It will take too long to realize the costs savings.

      https://plugloadsolutions.com/80PlusPowerSuppliesDetail.aspx?id=26&type=2

      Ran speedtest.com, my internet bandwidth is 75/75 and power consumption max was 21.2 watts
      with CPU usage maximum at 13%.

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        coxhaus
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        I agree low power is a good thing but costs need to be considered.  I have an old Intel 40 watt low voltage Xeon which I use in my pfsense machine.  I built this machine 10 years and it was low power back then.  Now days not so much.

        I can't see spending $400 to replace my current machine so I can save 30 watts.  What I have works great.

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          patrick0525
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          At first this mobo was coupled with an old 2005 non-80+ psu consumed 38W. This bothered 😕 me until I realized it was the psu was the culprit. The Thermaltake psu helped but it was 500W and only a 80+ efficiency.

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            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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            If you look at the specs for 80 plus you'll note that Gold does not have an efficiency requirement for even 10% rating. A 500W PSU running at 23W is <5% of it's rating. Actually less than that as that's the output power which will be less than the measured input. It's almost certainly worse than 80% efficient anyway.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/80_Plus

            Random link for reference: https://uk.hardware.info/reviews/4683/3/45-psus-tested-at-very-low-loads-which-one-is-the-most-efficient-225-watt-test (may contain internet fact!)

            Steve

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              patrick0525
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              Thermaltake 80+ was "improve power consumption attempt #1" and was only $20 after rebate.

              Several weeks ago, I saw the same link and did purchase an Antec 380W EA-380D earthwatt 80+ bronze to test (attempt #2) with this mobo. The Antec was marginally better than the 500W Thermaltake and idle consumption was around 22-23W. It wasn't worth the effort to swap out the Thermaltake psu until I found an eBay 80+ gold psu that was reasonably priced with a 80-84% efficiency at 25W. As a guide for the 10% load, I used
              https://plugloadsolutions.com/80PlusPowerSuppliesDetail.aspx?id=26&type=2

              Last week, I found an Dell L265EM-00 for $15 that looked like a possible solution. I already repurposed the Antec for the wife's desktop.

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                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                Mmm, 88% efficiency at 10% load is pretty good. That would appear to beat even a Pico PSU style DC-DC PSU when you include the external power brick. In most cases at least.

                Steve

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                  tirsojrp
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                  Top efficiency is at 50% load. A low power machine using less than 10% would never achieve it.

                  At such load I would use a pico-psu with a level vi brick.

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                    patrick0525
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                    stephenw10, if the Antec consumption was 22.0W(best of my knowledge) @71.2% efficiency then the Dell psu would be rated @85% efficiency which is similar to the plugloadsoultions.com spreadsheet results for gold model psu under 10% load. From what I researched pico psu have high efficiency but their cost $40+ make it prohibitively expensive unless you have space restrictions due to a mini itx case. I can live with a micro ATX case.

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                      Harvy66
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                      Does that $6.50 in savings include reduced heat leading to less AC needed?

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                        Or additional heating required depending on your location.  ;)

                        Steve

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                          patrick0525
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                          You are both correct and a much smaller carbon footprint for our future generations. Lol

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