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      korenchkin @stephenw10
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      @stephenw10 yep,just to be sure,i'm on it for...well about 8 hours..need some sleep now :)

      i didn't want to touch it standalone,look at intel csme tools "fit" (some winraid level1techs forum if i remember correctly),this is hardcore stuff,but fit is pretty simple(for you i guess),if you open the whole section of me,there are hardware addresses that i guess needs to stay the same,so definitely look but don't touch

      fit can also not display several items,they stay in xml only,so best way to update is disassemble with fit,save to xml,close fit,replace me part,open fit,load xml and rebuild..if you do it officially and replace me part with fit gui,defaults will jump in,not sure about:
      why bias0 has different register? why lcpll3 is 0x0 if default is not(also,what is it?),what is sscctl_dclk135 and why it is 0x0? and this kind of danger ๐Ÿ˜†

      so basically i did it and discovered that i can just flash(with another tool) only me,but that means modifying me for this machine,so...nope,this works for my machine,and i have another one(if this one fails),but i'll probably won't use them,since they are still too noisy for me...but it was fun finding out...

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        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @korenchkin
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        @korenchkin said in Watchguard Firebox M400/M500:

        i'll probably won't use them,since they are still too noisy for me

        With the fan speed set lower? I haven't tried using Noctua fans but I guess they must also be a lot quieter.

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          korenchkin @stephenw10
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          @stephenw10 i'm already at uncomfortable temperature levels(for me),i swapped all 3 fans for noctuas,buty they are annoyingly noisy(motor hum,not blade/air noise)..they have those fancy names and advanced technologies on box it feels like false advertising...

          i'm contemplating how to solve this,either cut a hole and mount at least 80mm fan on top,or maybe ditch the case completely,nothing feels right...i have mikrotik,so no pressure(probably better than this,but it is so annoyingly reliable and boring :) )

          edit:about those temperatures,bios is about 25-30 degrees C wrong(higher reported),so i made the fan curve start at 85 degrees

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            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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            Hmm, that must be CPU specific. They've always been pretty accurate here.

            You might try just turning down the standard fans at run time with WGXepc. I guess it depends how/where you use it but the test boxes are next to my desk and are acceptably quiet like that.

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              korenchkin @stephenw10
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              @stephenw10 yeah,it is definitely cpu related,but strange thing is coretemp readings in opnsense seems correct and if i disable coretemp,readings are correct too,only bios(which sets fan speeds)...so i set my preference and added about 25C,so they are sitting idle at ~51C and still way noisier than my more or less idle proxmox i5-7600k.. (i sleep here)

              now how about this nice strange form-factor 4-port ethernet card that is in,maybe use it in different board?maybe a little cut in case so it fits? :)

              edit (about temperature/consumption): measuring ~26W idle at wall,when crowdsec went wonky and used full cpu,i measured about 38W

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                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                You could. It's just PCIe, you can make it work with the right adapter. But I'd only do that for fun at this point. ๐Ÿ˜‰

                The Mx70 models are pretty cheap and have a module slot. (for values of x between 4 and 6!)

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                  korenchkin @stephenw10
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                  @stephenw10 i have strange fetish for this kind of devices,i'd like to get my hands on them,but still,i'll have to use some bigger pc-like or passive and keep those for tinker purposes...
                  i didn't even installed windows 10/11 there yet..just for fun

                  addon card eats about 2.5W idle unconnected.i'm now down to ~23.8W

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                    jriofrio @iJay-XTM5
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                    @iJay-XTM5 Hello there.... Will be possible that you could share the Bios passwords that were suggested, please?
                    Thank you for your help.

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                      Mookatroid @jriofrio
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                      @jriofrio PM Sent

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                        jriofrio @zanthos
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                        @zanthos Hello Sir,... I'm a little puzzle here in how I should connect the db15 to the 12 pin header on the motherboard of the M400.
                        Could you match/link the pins of the DB15 to the 12 pin header. Pin by pin. Please.
                        I really appreciate your help on this.
                        Thank you for your help... Good day

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                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                          You shouldn't need to for almost everything. What are you trying to do?

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                            jriofrio @stephenw10
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                            @stephenw10 I am trying to make the cable myself. This is just in case somehow I need it in preparation for installing pfsense in a M400 box.
                            I prefer to have options before the attempt rather than scrambling to get the info in case of the need, at the same time is good to have the knowledge for my need or someone else that might need it to.
                            By the way in order to have keyboard and mouse, do you use the USB ports on the M400 box or some other way?
                            Thank you again for any info you could provide.
                            Good day

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