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    How to assign Domain Controller to VLAN Systems

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    • slkamathS
      slkamath @stephenw10
      last edited by

      @stephenw10 @johnpoz
      Thank you very much.

      I am sorry I am configuring first time. I dont know anythng.

      So most of the things i am searching in google and trying. Please dont mind. I am asking some basic help with very good experts. So Sorry for that.

      Configured correctly in outlook. if I configure 465 and test it will fail. 587 is working fine.

      Allowing & Blocked Ports mentioned already
      0_1539078323081_Allowed Port.png

      0_1539078333192_Blocked Port.png

      If VLAN Clients are idle for 10 to 15 min we are facing the issue of disable & enable network.

      Please find the below picture for better understanding.

      Marketing-VLAN
      When it is not working if i run traceroute command

      Before Disable & Enable Network
      0_1539076308380_1.png

      After Nework Disable & Enable (in Picture you can see wired connection connected)
      0_1539076588545_2.png

      Traceroute After Nework Disable & Enable
      0_1539077028052_Traceroute.png

      ===============================================================

      Purchase-VLAN
      When it is not working if i run traceroute command

      Before Disable & Enable Network. Printing also holding. In picture you can see the print icon
      0_1539077592580_1.png

      After Nework Disable & Enable (in Picture you can see wired connection connected)
      0_1539077721348_2.png

      Printing is completed After Nework Disable & Enable
      0_1539077856501_3.png

      Traceroute Output after Nework Disable & Enable
      0_1539077953422_Traceroute 1.png

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      • johnpozJ
        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
        last edited by johnpoz

        So from that you can not just resolve it?

        Can your clients resolve anything? Do a simple nslookup or dig for mail.laxmielectronics.com

        Can you traceroute to its IP vs its name.. 142.4.7.34, Can you ping IP of pfsense - oh prob not because you are not even allowing basic icmp for troubleshooting..

        And lets go over this yet AGAIN!!!~~ your rules are pretty much pointless... Those allow rules mean zero when below them you have an ANY ANY... Other than you saying your limiting bandwidth on that rule? Is that the case?

        So your clients are pointing to DC for DNS? Thought you removed them? Where do the DCs get their dns - do they forward do they resolve? What network segment are they in? What are their rules for outbound to dns if resolving.

        When you enable/disable the interface - what was it before?? Do a simple ifconfig output.. What was your IP of this device? What was its routing, do a simple netstat -nr

        What version of linux you running can you run
        systemd-resolve --status

        Oh that looks like ubuntu... about about
        nmcli dev show | grep DNS

        I don't have a ubuntu handy with nmcli installed? or network manager

        how about simple output of nslookup, it should tell you who your using - but more than likely just show you loopback as your prob running local cache. How about simple cat of resolv.conf

        cat /etc/resolv.conf

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        • stephenw10S
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
          last edited by

          Yes, your firewall rules need rationalising at some point but they are not the cause of the issue here.

          You are losing, at least, DNS resolution when the connection fails. The easiest thing to do here is to grab screenshot of the connection information from the Network Manager on a client when it is working and when it fails.

          That will show the IP, subnet, gateway and DNS server(s) it's configured to use.

          Steve

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          • slkamathS
            slkamath @stephenw10
            last edited by

            @stephenw10 @johnpoz
            Thank you very much.

            Rules of Marketing-VLAN
            0_1539146552186_Marketing VLAN.png

            Rules of Purchase-VLAN
            0_1539146560589_Purchase VLAN.png

            System Info
            Marketing

            0_1539147158962_About Info.png

            System Info
            Purchase

            0_1539147169945_About Info.png

            IFCONFIG
            Marketing
            0_1539148268143_IPconfig.png
            0_1539147092312_Network Connections.png

            IFCONFIG
            Purchase
            0_1539147054648_IFConfig.png
            0_1539147063800_NW Connection.png

            DIG & NSLOOKUP
            Marketing - - - -> dig mail.laxmielectronics.com & dig 142.4.7.34
            0_1539146859717_dig mail.laxmielectronics.com.png
            0_1539147337556_nslookup.png

            DIG & NSLOOKUP
            Purchase - - - -> dig mail.laxmielectronics.com & dig 142.4.7.34
            0_1539148320274_Dig mail.laxmielectronics.com.png
            0_1539148383528_Dig 142.4.7.34.png
            Before Network - Disable/Enable - NSLOOKUP
            0_1539148214529_nslookup.png

            After Network - Disable/Enable - NSLOOKUP
            0_1539148175749_NW Disable Enable NSLookup 1.png

            NETSTAT
            Marketing

            0_1539147705659_Netstat.png

            NETSTAT
            Purchase

            0_1539147690670_Netstat.png

            CAT/ETC/RESOLV.CONF
            Marketing
            0_1539147778356_Resolv.conf.png

            CAT/ETC/RESOLV.CONF
            Purchase
            0_1539147789619_Resolv.conf.png

            TRACEROUTE
            Marketing

            0_1539147881734_Traceroute.png
            0_1539147917143_Traceroute IP.png
            after the traceroute 142.4.7.34 -- traceroute mail.laxmielectronics.com is working
            0_1539147970950_After Traceroute IP.png

            TRACEROUTE
            Purchase

            0_1539148076269_Traceroute.png

            Lokesh Kamath

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            • johnpozJ
              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
              last edited by

              So your pointing to local cache for dns... Doesn't actually tell you where your dns points to...

              When did I ever say do a dns lookup of the IP?? Dude - how are you in this field??? I don't need to see every freaking screenshot when it works!!! Or doesn't work for gosh sake... Can you not take basic info and understand what is happening??

              I you can not resolve the name - then NO shit your never going to get there..

              You need to figure out WHY you can not resolve.. Is your local dns cache is failing or the actual dns?? Do a simple nslookup for the name to the actual dns server vs the local cache.. of 127.0.0.1

              Pfsense is your dns right??? So

              dig @ipaddressofpfsenseforthatvlan mail.laxmielectronics.com

              If that fails - then WHY????? That is your problem...

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                last edited by

                Ok, so I think what you are showing there is that the machine in the Marketing VLAN is working and the machine in the Purchase VLAN was not able to resolve the mail server until you disabled/enabled the adapter, right?

                Both those machines are configured to use external DNS servers. If that Connection Information screenshot was taken when it was not working it looks OK though. So you have some DNS issue.

                Is there some reason you're not handing out the interface IP as DNS in DHCP?

                Also both those machines are now out of date, the one in Purchase by a long way!

                Steve

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                • slkamathS
                  slkamath @stephenw10
                  last edited by slkamath

                  @stephenw10 @johnpoz
                  Thank you very much.

                  I think initially pfsense IP (192.168.10.1) was not been set as DNS. Now I removed External DNS fom LAN & VLAN and kept blank. Now I am getting Primary DNS as pfSense IP.

                  dig 192.168.10.1 mail.laxmielectronics.com
                  did this from Purchase-VLAN and i am getting answer for both.

                  dig 192.168.40.1 mail.laxmielectronics.com
                  did this from Purchase-VLAN and i am getting answer for both.

                  I did some changes:

                  1. Removed External DNS from LAN.
                  2. Now LAN IF CONFIG - IP: 192.168.10.2 SUBNET: 24 Gateway: 192.168.10.1 Primary DNS: 192.168.10.1 (No Secondary DNS) I think now pfSense is pointing as DNS
                  3. Removed External DNS (ISP Provided) from all VLANS.
                  4. Now VLAN IFCONFIG - IP: 192.168.30.60 SUBNET: 24 Gateway: 192.168.30.1 Primary DNS: 192.168.30.1 (No Secondary DNS)
                  5. Firewall VLAN Rules did few changes. (Same for other VLAN too)
                    0_1539318021781_Marketing VLAN.png

                  I will test this today and update you.

                  Once again thanks for your time.

                  Lokesh Kamath

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                  • johnpozJ
                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                    last edited by

                    @slkamath said in How to assign Domain Controller to VLAN Systems:

                    Removed External DNS (ISP Provided) from all VLANS.

                    Your clients that are members of AD... Ie you have domain controllers should be pointing to your DC that running dns for your domain.. This will be the authoritative NS for your AD.. And have all your AD records in it..

                    This or these NS if you have more than 1 running your AD dns will either forward or resolve any domains it is not authoritative for.. Member machines of AD should always point to the NS for your AD.. That would not be pfsense out of the box running unbound.. You could prob do with the bind package.. But when you have AD, it makes little sense to not just run DNS for on one of the DCs if not multiples of them.

                    Pointing client machines to more than 1 NS that can not resolve the same stuff is going to lead you to nothing but problems since you can never be sure which NS your client is going to ask for specific query.

                    If your clients were pointing to multiple NS and 1 of them could not resolve your smtp servers fqdn, then yeah a reset of the interface would prob force it to query the 1st vs the 2nd, etc. Or who knows how you had them setup..

                    If your going to point your clients to pfsense for dns and you running an AD, your going to want to make sure you setup all the domain overrides for your AD dns, or your going to want to make sure pfsense points to your AD nameserver(s)..

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                    • slkamathS
                      slkamath @johnpoz
                      last edited by

                      @johnpoz
                      Thank you very much. ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ‘Œ

                      ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘ I really forgotten the AD clients. Thank you so much for reminding.

                      Still disable & enable is must for only VLAN Clients.โ˜น

                      Lokesh Kamath

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                      • johnpozJ
                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                        Dude where are they pointing for DNS?? You do understand that showing 127.0.0.1 is pointing them to their own local running copy of dnsmasq - you need to know where that points!!!

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                        • slkamathS
                          slkamath @johnpoz
                          last edited by

                          @johnpoz
                          Thank you very much.

                          In LAN few Ubuntu systems are there and those system also shows 127.0.0.1 but no issue with those (if system idle for anytime next moment it is working).

                          Those VLAN clients DNS pointing can I manually change to pfSense ??

                          Lokesh Kamath

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                          • johnpozJ
                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                            last edited by johnpoz

                            Your clients should point to your AD for dns..

                            My point is your clients showing that they point to loopback doesn't tell you where they point... They are pointing to their own local cache..

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                            • slkamathS
                              slkamath @johnpoz
                              last edited by

                              @johnpoz
                              Thank you so much.

                              I will do the changes by monday and let you know.

                              Once again thanks for your time.

                              Lokesh Kamath

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