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WAN Interface IP address - noob config question

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    zzkazu
    last edited by Aug 22, 2019, 5:45 AM

    Thanks for your response.

    I changed it to 192.168.5.109, which is within the range of my router (still using this atm), but the WAN IP address gets set to whatever I change the LAN static IP address too.

    Cant workout why this is happening as the APU2 has individual NICs (WAN/LAN) and I would have thought router DCHP server should assign separate IP's

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      zzkazu @zzkazu
      last edited by Aug 22, 2019, 6:07 AM

      @zzkazu Managed to set separate IP's via console and seems to be sticking. No access to internet though for devices connected to LAN interface atm.

      Assume firewall rules..

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        chpalmer @zzkazu
        last edited by chpalmer Aug 22, 2019, 6:37 AM Aug 22, 2019, 6:34 AM

        @zzkazu

        Check your client IP.

        Firewall rules for LAN should say "LAN Net" which would work fine.

        If your WAN keeps grabbing the wrong IP Im inclined to believe it has a path from the LAN side somehow. How do you have things wired?

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          zzkazu
          last edited by zzkazu Aug 22, 2019, 7:25 AM Aug 22, 2019, 7:17 AM

          Heres the rules I'm using.

          3987edaf-bda4-4234-b5ed-9df148b1d6ee-image.png

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          WAN on igb2
          LAN igb1

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            JKnott @zzkazu
            last edited by Aug 22, 2019, 10:43 AM

            @zzkazu said in WAN Interface IP address - noob config question:

            My setup is

            Why do you have a Netgear router and pfSense? That's 2 routers and double NAT.

            PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
            i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
            UniFi AC-Lite access point

            I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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              bmeeks
              last edited by Aug 22, 2019, 1:21 PM

              The WAN and LAN are within the same subnet according to the screen shot in the last post by the OP. You can't have WAN and LAN in the same subnet. You are showing both of them in the 192.168.5.0 network. The WAN is 192.168.5.109 and the LAN is 192.168.5.110. That can't work!

              Draw a simple diagram of how you have things connected and post back.

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                NogBadTheBad @JKnott
                last edited by NogBadTheBad Aug 23, 2019, 8:00 AM Aug 22, 2019, 3:14 PM

                @JKnott said in WAN Interface IP address - noob config question:

                @zzkazu said in WAN Interface IP address - noob config question:

                My setup is

                Why do you have a Netgear router and pfSense? That's 2 routers and double NAT.

                This ^^

                Set the pfSense WAN interface to PPPOE and remove the Netgear.

                Andy

                1 x Netgate SG-4860 - 3 x Linksys LGS308P - 1 x Aruba InstantOn AP22

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                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                  last edited by Aug 22, 2019, 3:23 PM

                  You can double nat if you need too - but you can not have the same network on pfsense wan as you do its lan and expect it to route correctly.

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                    zzkazu
                    last edited by zzkazu Aug 23, 2019, 6:52 AM Aug 23, 2019, 12:05 AM

                    Thanks for the advice. I have tried a PPPoE configuration.

                    DSL Modem "Bridged" to
                    APU2 WAN interface
                    APU2 LAN interface to
                    L-SG108PE switch

                    WAN interface set to PPPoE
                    LAN Static IP

                    On LAN side still cant ping out publicly.

                    DCHP service running and allocating leases
                    No FW rules running on WAN

                    Pfsense PPPoE.JPG

                    Firewall rules.JPG

                    Ping Interface Test.JPG

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                      NogBadTheBad
                      last edited by Aug 23, 2019, 7:59 AM

                      Try killing the firewall states.

                      Andy

                      1 x Netgate SG-4860 - 3 x Linksys LGS308P - 1 x Aruba InstantOn AP22

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                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                        last edited by Aug 23, 2019, 8:41 AM

                        And what are you outbound nat rules?

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                          zzkazu
                          last edited by Aug 23, 2019, 10:24 AM

                          Automatic outbound NAT rule generation.

                          Is that sufficient?

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                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                            last edited by johnpoz Aug 23, 2019, 10:26 AM Aug 23, 2019, 10:24 AM

                            let see it please
                            If you can ping from your public wan, but not from your lan - points to outbound nat not being correct.

                            I would sniff on your wan while your doing your ping from lan test.. Do you see the ping go out with your actual wan IP?

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                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                              last edited by stephenw10 Aug 23, 2019, 2:40 PM Aug 23, 2019, 2:39 PM

                              Check the state table size on the dashboard also. Something breaking the ruleset can present like this but you would see 0 open states in that case. You have some rules showing open states so it's probably not that. Worth checking though.

                              Check you have a default route in Diag > Routes.

                              Steve

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                                zzkazu
                                last edited by zzkazu Aug 24, 2019, 1:28 AM Aug 24, 2019, 12:16 AM

                                Thanks for the help here, learning lots.

                                Still can ping and resolve via WAN but not LAN

                                Only taking a guess but LAN active states seem closed, could that be the issue? I have reset states a couple of times.

                                using Packet capture (WAN side) cant see any private IP addresses...

                                thanks

                                Outbound NAT

                                NAT outbound.JPG

                                Diag Routes.JPG

                                Active States.JPG

                                Packet Capture.JPG

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                                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                  last edited by johnpoz Aug 24, 2019, 7:00 AM Aug 24, 2019, 6:59 AM

                                  Where is your default route?

                                  default.png

                                  That looks like your wan pinging your gateway.. But I see no default route in your routing table.. So if your client pings 8.8.8.8 why would it get routed out your internet?

                                  Lets see your gateways

                                  gateways.png

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                                    zzkazu
                                    last edited by zzkazu Aug 24, 2019, 8:50 AM Aug 24, 2019, 8:45 AM

                                    Default gateway IPv4 was set to automatic. Setting it to WAN_PPPOE seems to have allowed me to ping public via LAN now..

                                    Seems a bit strange noting I have only one Gateway PPPoE.. ... cheers saved further headaches for me

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                                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                      last edited by Aug 24, 2019, 9:37 AM

                                      I have seen a bit of strangeness with the automatic gateway selection.. Maybe your pppoe connection is taking awhile to come up.. Not sure.. I don't use those types of connection, and never a lot of experience even with them with pfsense..

                                      We can see if anyone else with more info on the details of how the automatic selection is suppose to work, and how pppoe might come into play with that, etc.

                                      Glad we finally got it sorted! ;)

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                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                        last edited by Aug 24, 2019, 1:15 PM

                                        Yeah, I would recommend always setting the gateway to something specific there.

                                        Steve

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