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Pfsense high cpu usage KVM (Unraid)

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    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
    last edited by Aug 31, 2019, 10:52 PM

    Hmm, yeah if that's what it's really getting it should be far more than what is needed for 250Mbps.

    What is the output of sysctl hw.clockrate or sysctl dev.cpu.0 ?

    Steve

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      BjornStevens @stephenw10
      last edited by Sep 1, 2019, 9:07 AM

      @stephenw10 Heres the output:
      b5aacd21-ca29-4b6c-bbc6-7bceb21cfaca-afbeelding.png

      Default clock of an fx 8350 is 3.6Ghz. Just know that this is a Virtual Machine. Unraid config over here:
      514be666-7f25-4f3d-9ada-8361166d9694-afbeelding.png
      db78850f-b84b-444c-87ca-528685e525e3-afbeelding.png

      During a speedtest on the pfsense (speedtest-cli with 150mbit download) the clock rates are this on unraid (8 core cpu so 8 speeds):
      ebee771d-6297-453b-b54d-10ea38bba758-afbeelding.png

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        BjornStevens
        last edited by BjornStevens Sep 1, 2019, 9:16 AM Sep 1, 2019, 9:11 AM

        Also a little addon on how it looks in the pfsense WebGui when the firewall is at idle and when doing a speedtest:
        3cf15aa2-0e25-49c9-8fc9-885b86d42664-afbeelding.png
        22641d74-edf6-4785-bb28-4656f8a01811-afbeelding.png
        During a speedtest top -S -H:
        0b0e0f96-af34-4aed-bcf9-feddd7efbf1f-afbeelding.png

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          BjornStevens
          last edited by Sep 2, 2019, 6:38 PM

          From what i have found so far i think this has to do because i am using virtual nic and not a physical nic. Can someone confirm this?

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            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
            last edited by Sep 2, 2019, 9:56 PM

            It should not just of itself. There are many people running virtualised and not seeing that, including in KVM.

            Something about Unraids setup perhaps? I've never run that personally.

            Steve

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              kiokoman LAYER 8
              last edited by Sep 3, 2019, 10:32 AM

              indeed , i'm using kvm on my ubuntu server and i don't have this. idk what unraid is so i can't be of any help

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                BjornStevens
                last edited by Sep 3, 2019, 10:37 AM

                Maybe i should just try to reïnstall it. Shouldn't be that hard to do. Ill post more after some more testing.

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                  BjornStevens @BjornStevens
                  last edited by Sep 4, 2019, 5:15 PM

                  A reïnstall made no change, the cpu usage went up on 1 of the cores. during this test i even gave it 8 Cpu core's (4.0ghz) and 4GB of RAM. Download speed was 150mbit. So i have no clue what the option is other than the virtual nic or something...
                  Sadly i dont have any other nics available to test with. Any suggestions on a step i might try out?

                  Thanks!

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                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by Sep 4, 2019, 9:43 PM

                    With vmx NICs you will need to add the following line to /boot/loader.conf.local to get multiple queue support:
                    hw.pci.honor_msi_blacklist=0

                    Reboot to apply that. Check the output of vmstat -i to be sure it's creating multiple queues.

                    Be sure all hardware offloading support is disabled in Sys > Adv > Networking.

                    Steve

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                      BjornStevens @stephenw10
                      last edited by Sep 5, 2019, 3:16 PM

                      @stephenw10

                      Hi, Thanks for your reply,

                      I tried to find the /boot/loader.conf.local file but could only find a /boot/loader.conf
                      I tried adding it into there ( hw.pci.honor_msi_blacklist=0 ) but still no change.
                      It has done something because it moved up in the file.

                      During speedtest i get these results with vmstat -i:
                      ae70e044-cd64-426d-aa9b-831bafb1867b-afbeelding.png
                      And when using the top -S -H command still get the same results.

                      Any other suggestions?

                      Thanks!

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                        kiokoman LAYER 8
                        last edited by Sep 5, 2019, 5:57 PM

                        you need to create the file
                        /boot/loader.conf.local
                        if it's missing
                        copy inside
                        hw.pci.honor_msi_blacklist=0
                        save and reboot

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                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                          last edited by Sep 6, 2019, 3:35 AM

                          Yup create the file if it doesn't exist. If you put it in loader.conf it may get overwritten.

                          However that will only do anything for vmx NICs. You have em NICs there currently.

                          Steve

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                            BjornStevens @stephenw10
                            last edited by BjornStevens Sep 6, 2019, 8:55 AM Sep 6, 2019, 8:50 AM

                            @stephenw10 Allright, will set them to VMXNET3, reboot, create the file with the line and inform if there are any changes.

                            Thanks for the help @kiokoman & @stephenw10 !

                            Creating config file:
                            982b0dd4-2c9c-4ecf-9ac8-be2915f3b4be-afbeelding.png

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                              BjornStevens
                              last edited by BjornStevens Sep 6, 2019, 9:19 AM Sep 6, 2019, 9:02 AM

                              Okay so further testing will come in later but for now i seem to reach my maximum provider speed on my linux server behind the firewall:
                              30ee4f36-acce-4b80-9fbf-49be03d205a0-afbeelding.png

                              BUT it did drop back down to 14.4Megabyte's per second and go up and down all the time:
                              9e4f1f56-336e-4798-bf02-06b239e5bad7-afbeelding.png
                              Cpu usage seems to have set a bit:
                              e79a25f5-47e3-4adf-983d-fd919f94def1-afbeelding.png

                              Using SMB protocol i get this from moving a file WAN to LAN:
                              e45d4618-c85f-4ace-af3c-533642fda829-afbeelding.png

                              It's 2 virtual cores are running at nearly full power (cpu 6/7) (cpu 4 is being used on the server side in the LAN network.):
                              45cb9478-33ab-446f-b5ad-60bca539c805-afbeelding.png

                              I don't know if this is just a performance bug but speeds seem to have increased, altough cpu usage is still high (compared to the hardware specifications of pfsense)

                              Changing to a quad core (virtual processor) did not change much either, cpu usage stays high on 2 cores:
                              016158cd-9055-41c1-9087-e3bc4ac87e56-afbeelding.png

                              Wish i could put my finger on the issue.

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                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                last edited by Sep 6, 2019, 1:52 PM

                                I still only see one tx queue and one rx queue on each NIC. Does vmstat -i show more?

                                I assume you created that file in /boot

                                Steve

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                                  BjornStevens @stephenw10
                                  last edited by Sep 6, 2019, 2:00 PM

                                  @stephenw10

                                  yep its placed under /boot/loader.conf.local
                                  9c8aefad-741a-439a-9981-93582a95b5a6-afbeelding.png

                                  vmstat -i during speedtest on server in lan side:
                                  a7a528cf-d4b7-4795-bc21-5c250ff4579f-afbeelding.png

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                                    BjornStevens
                                    last edited by Sep 6, 2019, 2:04 PM

                                    I actually don't know how to read the vmstat -i, but i hope you might know more @stephenw10

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                                      kiokoman LAYER 8
                                      last edited by Sep 6, 2019, 2:10 PM

                                      one queue

                                      vmx0: tq0 (transmission queue 0)
                                      vmx0: rq0 (receive queue 0)

                                      with multiple queue you should see tq0 / tq1 etc etc

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                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                        last edited by stephenw10 Sep 6, 2019, 2:16 PM Sep 6, 2019, 2:11 PM

                                        Yeah, that. Though I don't have anything vmx to test again right now.
                                        I think it probably is working as you are seeing the high numbered IRQs which MSI uses.
                                        Try removing that line or commenting it out and rebooting. Do you see any change?

                                        On other NICs you might see something like:

                                        [2.4.4-RELEASE][root@5100.stevew.lan]/root: vmstat -i
                                        interrupt                          total       rate
                                        irq7: uart0                          432          0
                                        irq16: sdhci_pci0                    536          0
                                        cpu0:timer                      68688188       1001
                                        cpu3:timer                       1069435         16
                                        cpu2:timer                       1060293         15
                                        cpu1:timer                       1086989         16
                                        irq264: igb0:que 0                 68630          1
                                        irq265: igb0:que 1                 68630          1
                                        irq266: igb0:que 2                 68630          1
                                        irq267: igb0:que 3                 68630          1
                                        irq268: igb0:link                      3          0
                                        irq269: igb1:que 0                 68630          1
                                        irq270: igb1:que 1                 68630          1
                                        irq271: igb1:que 2                 68630          1
                                        irq272: igb1:que 3                 68630          1
                                        irq273: igb1:link                      1          0
                                        irq274: ahci0:ch0                   4473          0
                                        irq290: xhci0                         85          0
                                        irq291: ix0:q0                    216643          3
                                        irq292: ix0:q1                     47933          1
                                        irq293: ix0:q2                    325480          5
                                        irq294: ix0:q3                    514752          7
                                        irq295: ix0:link                       2          0
                                        irq301: ix2:q0                     74629          1
                                        irq302: ix2:q1                       507          0
                                        irq303: ix2:q2                      1703          0
                                        irq304: ix2:q3                     89446          1
                                        irq305: ix2:link                       1          0
                                        irq306: ix3:q0                     70295          1
                                        irq307: ix3:q1                      4985          0
                                        irq308: ix3:q2                    186433          3
                                        irq309: ix3:q3                    413486          6
                                        irq310: ix3:link                       1          0
                                        Total                           74405771       1084
                                        

                                        https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=vmx#MULTIPLE_QUEUES

                                        Steve

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                                          kiokoman LAYER 8
                                          last edited by Sep 6, 2019, 2:13 PM

                                          try to add this on your loader.conf.local

                                          hw.vmx.txnqueue="4"
                                          hw.vmx.rxnqueue="4"
                                          

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