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Limit bandwidth per user or Share bandwidth evenly?

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    p38016 @KOM
    last edited by Oct 3, 2019, 3:44 PM

    @KOM Thanks for the reddit link very informative.

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      Jimbohello @p38016
      last edited by Oct 1, 2020, 3:45 AM

      @p38016

      best explication ever

      https://www.reddit.com/r/PFSENSE/comments/3e67dk/flexible_vs_fixed_limiters_troubleshooting_with/?utm_source=amp&utm_medium=&utm_content=post_body

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        anand_phulwani @Jimbohello
        last edited by Oct 29, 2020, 1:30 PM

        @Jimbohello I am having issues with flexible limiter and multiple gateway groups, i tried configuring it using floating rules, do you know someone who can help??

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          Jimbohello @anand_phulwani
          last edited by Oct 29, 2020, 3:26 PM

          @anand_phulwani

          in floating rule !

          in/out direction

          you will have to test the in/direction on top option and specify the wan group in the field gateway

          but before doing so ! you should just test your setting in the lan/rule first !!

          then after play arround in the floating rules

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            anand_phulwani @Jimbohello
            last edited by Oct 29, 2020, 6:10 PM

            @Jimbohello I should have been bit clear, i have 3 connections

            • 100MBPS
            • 40MBPS
            • 8MBPS.

            My gateway groups are

            • 100MBPS_40MBPS_8MBPS
            • 100MBPS_8MBPS_40MBPS
            • 40MBPS_100MBPS_8MBPS

            In Floating rules, i am just trying to match the IN direction first
            Action: Match
            Interface: Lan
            Direction: In
            Address Family: IPv4
            Protocol: Any
            Source: LAN Net
            Destination: (Inverse/Not) LAN Net
            Gateway: 100MBPS_40MBPS_8MBPS
            In pipe: Upload_100MBPS_Queue
            Out pipe: Download_100MBPS_Queue

            Similar floating rule for 40MBPS_100MBPS_8MBPS with the following changes only
            Gateway: 40MBPS_100MBPS_8MBPS
            In pipe: Upload_40MBPS_Queue
            Out pipe: Download_40MBPS_Queue

            Now i have two questions

            • Is the floating rule above defined correctly?
            • I have read somewhere that for IN/OUT direction we should give IN/OUT queues separately, but defining just an OUT queue for an OUT direction floating rule gives this error "A queue must be selected for the In direction before selecting one for Out too."
            • When we have a gateway group with different speeds of each WAN, how can we define fixed pipes.

            Thanks for your help.
            Anand

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              Jimbohello @anand_phulwani
              last edited by Oct 30, 2020, 3:33 AM

              @anand_phulwani
              did you follw this simple tutorial

              https://www.reddit.com/r/PFSENSE/comments/3e67dk/flexible_vs_fixed_limiters_troubleshooting_with/?utm_source=amp&utm_medium=&utm_content=post_body

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                Jimbohello @anand_phulwani
                last edited by Oct 30, 2020, 3:37 AM

                @anand_phulwani

                are you using em driver ??

                create file
                /boot/loader.conf.local - final - best result ever !
                if_em_load="YES"
                cc_htcp_load="YES"
                hw.em.eee_setting="0"
                hw.em.rx_process_limit="-1"
                hw.em.txd="2048"
                hw.em.rxd="2048"
                net.link.ifqmaxlen="4096"

                the create like my setup

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                  Jimbohello @anand_phulwani
                  last edited by Oct 30, 2020, 3:51 AM

                  @anand_phulwani

                  like my setup

                  limiter config Download
                  Codel
                  FQ_codel
                  queue lenght 100
                  ecn enable

                  limiter Queue Download
                  Mask / Destination Adresse /32
                  Codel

                  limiter config Upload
                  Codel
                  FQ_codel
                  queue lenght 100
                  ecn enable

                  limiter Queue Upload
                  Mask / Source Adresse /32
                  Codel

                  limiter on lan rules
                  in= upload-queue
                  out=download-queue

                  if you wan't floating just make the same in floating instead of lan rules but you will have to set the direction to out

                  that's the best i can do

                  floating-1.png change black spot with Lan Net
                  floating-2.png change black spot with Desired Gateway

                  login-to-view login-to-view

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                    anand_phulwani
                    last edited by Nov 1, 2020, 9:15 PM

                    @Jimbohello
                    I have made the following for sharing bandwidth evenly

                    • Upload Limiter
                      login-to-view
                    • Upload Queue
                      login-to-view
                    • Download Limiter
                      login-to-view
                    • Download Queue
                      login-to-view
                    • Floating Rule
                      login-to-view

                    but it still isn't working, i am using the traffic graphs / online web speedcheck to check for equal division, but it isn't happening.

                    Thanks again for so much help, you are the first person on the forum who is at least willing to discuss over it.

                    Thanks again,
                    Anand

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                      Jimbohello @anand_phulwani
                      last edited by Nov 1, 2020, 9:31 PM

                      @anand_phulwani
                      replace the scheduler for fd_codel instead of worst-case

                      everything else seem perfecto

                      but this is for a max limit and not a per/user scenario.

                      you probably have to reset all state or reboot

                      if is still not working

                      try in lan first not floating

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                        Jimbohello @anand_phulwani
                        last edited by Nov 1, 2020, 9:40 PM

                        @anand_phulwani
                        as i understand this is a flexible limit base on per/user/max-limit-all
                        so if 6 pc download silmutanous pfsense should divise the max of 100M for these 6 pc

                        if your looking to get a fix limit/per/user
                        you should check out de tuturial 1er scenario 'FIXED limit'

                        ciao

                        BUT i MAY be Wrong ! ain't god ! :)

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                          anand_phulwani
                          last edited by Nov 1, 2020, 9:46 PM

                          @Jimbohello said in Limit bandwidth per user or Share bandwidth evenly?:

                          so if 6 pc download silmutanous pfsense should divise the max of 100M for these 6 pc

                          This is exactly what i am looking for 100M divided equally between active clients.

                          replace the scheduler for fd_codel instead of worst-case

                          Done

                          you probably have to reset all state or reboot

                          I always reboot first to check.

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                            anand_phulwani @Jimbohello
                            last edited by Nov 1, 2020, 9:49 PM

                            @Jimbohello
                            I changed it to FQ_Codel, there wasn't any option of FD_Codel.

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                              Jimbohello @anand_phulwani
                              last edited by Nov 1, 2020, 9:56 PM

                              @anand_phulwani

                              sorry my mistake

                              now

                              im’ not sure if division would be equal. this will only allow a saruration to 100m and reduce bandwich to other pc if a added pc come into games. etc

                              you can see if limiter work in limiter info or staus

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                                durianbusuk @anand_phulwani
                                last edited by durianbusuk Jan 20, 2021, 8:17 AM Jan 20, 2021, 8:14 AM

                                @anand_phulwani as your floating rule is direction is 'out', you need to swap your in/out pipes. Place download to the left.

                                The left slot is always in the same direction as the floating rule direction. In this case, 'out' to the LAN means traffic from the firewall to your LAN devices (download).

                                Also, use tail drop for your queues; if you check the limiter info you will find that codel doesn't work if you have codel on both queue management and limiter, i.e. it's empty.

                                Turn off ECN and leave the queue length at default/empty.

                                From my experience bandwidth needs to be about 90% of speed test results before the even distribution will work.

                                Lastly, FQ-Codel doesn't distribute bandwidth evenly so stick to WF2Q+. To prove this, start a torrent or a steam download on 1 computer and do a speed test on another. If it works correctly you'll get roughly even bandwidth. FQ_Codel in this scenario, in a 40MBps connection, will have 2-3MBps to the speedtest and the rest to the torrent.

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