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Limit bandwidth per user or Share bandwidth evenly?

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    p38016
    last edited by Oct 3, 2019, 2:34 PM

    I was reading through the docs over at opnsense and came across how to setup traffic shaping
    https://wiki.opnsense.org/manual/how-tos/shaper.html

    Limit bandwidth per user

    Instructions for limiting bandwidth per user so that each user will recieve a maximum of say 5Mbps

    and

    Share bandwidth evenly

    Instructions for sharing the set bandwidth evenly between all users.

    Can any of theese two be setup in pfsense and if so, how?

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      KOM
      last edited by Oct 3, 2019, 2:53 PM

      You do it the exact same way: limiters.

      https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/book/trafficshaper/limiters.html

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        p38016
        last edited by Oct 3, 2019, 3:20 PM

        That link tells me how limiters work, however no instructions for either of the two in my previous post.

        So over to the opnsense link again. the instructions for "Limit bandwidth per user" is as follows:

        Step 1 - Create Upload and Download Pipes
        Create Pipe For Download
        enabled: Checked
        bandwidth: 5Mbps
        mask: destination
        description: PipeDown-5Mbps

        Step 2 - Create Rules
        sequence: 21
        interface: WAN
        proto: ip
        source: any
        src-port: any
        destination: 192.168.1.0/24
        dst-port: any
        target: PipeDown-5Mbps
        description: ShapeDownload

        Good instructions by opnsense here so lets translate this over to pfsense.

        1. should mask be "destination" for download and "source" for upload?
        2. sequence: 21 where do i put this or is it even needed?
        3. proto: ip ip does not exist under protocol in pfsense so what to choose instead?
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          KOM
          last edited by KOM Oct 3, 2019, 3:33 PM Oct 3, 2019, 3:33 PM

          I'm not really interested in looking at or translating OpnSense documentation. If you don't understand the docs, you can search for how to do it or perhaps someone else can explain it all. I don't use limiters myself.

          Here is a good link that shows various scenarios about limiters and pfSense:

          https://www.reddit.com/r/PFSENSE/comments/3e67dk/flexible_vs_fixed_limiters_troubleshooting_with/

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            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
            last edited by johnpoz Oct 3, 2019, 3:38 PM Oct 3, 2019, 3:38 PM

            What what possible reason are you asking about this here?

            You do understand that is not pfsense right.. If you have questions on how to use that software or their documentation you should ask on their forums.

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              KOM @johnpoz
              last edited by Oct 3, 2019, 3:41 PM

              @johnpoz He is, John. He's asking how to do something in pfSense that he already knows how to do with OpnSense.

              @p38016 OpnSense is kind of a dirty word around here. There were some issues between Netgate and the main OpnSense guy.

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                p38016 @KOM
                last edited by Oct 3, 2019, 3:44 PM

                @KOM Thanks for the reddit link very informative.

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                  Jimbohello @p38016
                  last edited by Oct 1, 2020, 3:45 AM

                  @p38016

                  best explication ever

                  https://www.reddit.com/r/PFSENSE/comments/3e67dk/flexible_vs_fixed_limiters_troubleshooting_with/?utm_source=amp&utm_medium=&utm_content=post_body

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                    anand_phulwani @Jimbohello
                    last edited by Oct 29, 2020, 1:30 PM

                    @Jimbohello I am having issues with flexible limiter and multiple gateway groups, i tried configuring it using floating rules, do you know someone who can help??

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                      Jimbohello @anand_phulwani
                      last edited by Oct 29, 2020, 3:26 PM

                      @anand_phulwani

                      in floating rule !

                      in/out direction

                      you will have to test the in/direction on top option and specify the wan group in the field gateway

                      but before doing so ! you should just test your setting in the lan/rule first !!

                      then after play arround in the floating rules

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                        anand_phulwani @Jimbohello
                        last edited by Oct 29, 2020, 6:10 PM

                        @Jimbohello I should have been bit clear, i have 3 connections

                        • 100MBPS
                        • 40MBPS
                        • 8MBPS.

                        My gateway groups are

                        • 100MBPS_40MBPS_8MBPS
                        • 100MBPS_8MBPS_40MBPS
                        • 40MBPS_100MBPS_8MBPS

                        In Floating rules, i am just trying to match the IN direction first
                        Action: Match
                        Interface: Lan
                        Direction: In
                        Address Family: IPv4
                        Protocol: Any
                        Source: LAN Net
                        Destination: (Inverse/Not) LAN Net
                        Gateway: 100MBPS_40MBPS_8MBPS
                        In pipe: Upload_100MBPS_Queue
                        Out pipe: Download_100MBPS_Queue

                        Similar floating rule for 40MBPS_100MBPS_8MBPS with the following changes only
                        Gateway: 40MBPS_100MBPS_8MBPS
                        In pipe: Upload_40MBPS_Queue
                        Out pipe: Download_40MBPS_Queue

                        Now i have two questions

                        • Is the floating rule above defined correctly?
                        • I have read somewhere that for IN/OUT direction we should give IN/OUT queues separately, but defining just an OUT queue for an OUT direction floating rule gives this error "A queue must be selected for the In direction before selecting one for Out too."
                        • When we have a gateway group with different speeds of each WAN, how can we define fixed pipes.

                        Thanks for your help.
                        Anand

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                          Jimbohello @anand_phulwani
                          last edited by Oct 30, 2020, 3:33 AM

                          @anand_phulwani
                          did you follw this simple tutorial

                          https://www.reddit.com/r/PFSENSE/comments/3e67dk/flexible_vs_fixed_limiters_troubleshooting_with/?utm_source=amp&utm_medium=&utm_content=post_body

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                            Jimbohello @anand_phulwani
                            last edited by Oct 30, 2020, 3:37 AM

                            @anand_phulwani

                            are you using em driver ??

                            create file
                            /boot/loader.conf.local - final - best result ever !
                            if_em_load="YES"
                            cc_htcp_load="YES"
                            hw.em.eee_setting="0"
                            hw.em.rx_process_limit="-1"
                            hw.em.txd="2048"
                            hw.em.rxd="2048"
                            net.link.ifqmaxlen="4096"

                            the create like my setup

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                              Jimbohello @anand_phulwani
                              last edited by Oct 30, 2020, 3:51 AM

                              @anand_phulwani

                              like my setup

                              limiter config Download
                              Codel
                              FQ_codel
                              queue lenght 100
                              ecn enable

                              limiter Queue Download
                              Mask / Destination Adresse /32
                              Codel

                              limiter config Upload
                              Codel
                              FQ_codel
                              queue lenght 100
                              ecn enable

                              limiter Queue Upload
                              Mask / Source Adresse /32
                              Codel

                              limiter on lan rules
                              in= upload-queue
                              out=download-queue

                              if you wan't floating just make the same in floating instead of lan rules but you will have to set the direction to out

                              that's the best i can do

                              floating-1.png change black spot with Lan Net
                              floating-2.png change black spot with Desired Gateway

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                                anand_phulwani
                                last edited by Nov 1, 2020, 9:15 PM

                                @Jimbohello
                                I have made the following for sharing bandwidth evenly

                                • Upload Limiter
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                                • Upload Queue
                                  🔒 Log in to view
                                • Download Limiter
                                  🔒 Log in to view
                                • Download Queue
                                  🔒 Log in to view
                                • Floating Rule
                                  🔒 Log in to view

                                but it still isn't working, i am using the traffic graphs / online web speedcheck to check for equal division, but it isn't happening.

                                Thanks again for so much help, you are the first person on the forum who is at least willing to discuss over it.

                                Thanks again,
                                Anand

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                                  Jimbohello @anand_phulwani
                                  last edited by Nov 1, 2020, 9:31 PM

                                  @anand_phulwani
                                  replace the scheduler for fd_codel instead of worst-case

                                  everything else seem perfecto

                                  but this is for a max limit and not a per/user scenario.

                                  you probably have to reset all state or reboot

                                  if is still not working

                                  try in lan first not floating

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                                    Jimbohello @anand_phulwani
                                    last edited by Nov 1, 2020, 9:40 PM

                                    @anand_phulwani
                                    as i understand this is a flexible limit base on per/user/max-limit-all
                                    so if 6 pc download silmutanous pfsense should divise the max of 100M for these 6 pc

                                    if your looking to get a fix limit/per/user
                                    you should check out de tuturial 1er scenario 'FIXED limit'

                                    ciao

                                    BUT i MAY be Wrong ! ain't god ! :)

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                                      anand_phulwani
                                      last edited by Nov 1, 2020, 9:46 PM

                                      @Jimbohello said in Limit bandwidth per user or Share bandwidth evenly?:

                                      so if 6 pc download silmutanous pfsense should divise the max of 100M for these 6 pc

                                      This is exactly what i am looking for 100M divided equally between active clients.

                                      replace the scheduler for fd_codel instead of worst-case

                                      Done

                                      you probably have to reset all state or reboot

                                      I always reboot first to check.

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                                        anand_phulwani @Jimbohello
                                        last edited by Nov 1, 2020, 9:49 PM

                                        @Jimbohello
                                        I changed it to FQ_Codel, there wasn't any option of FD_Codel.

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                                          Jimbohello @anand_phulwani
                                          last edited by Nov 1, 2020, 9:56 PM

                                          @anand_phulwani

                                          sorry my mistake

                                          now

                                          im’ not sure if division would be equal. this will only allow a saruration to 100m and reduce bandwich to other pc if a added pc come into games. etc

                                          you can see if limiter work in limiter info or staus

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