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    Had my pfSense been compromised?

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    • johnpozJ
      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
      last edited by johnpoz

      So I just turned UPnP on - to test.. And then set my plex to use UPnP vs the static forward I have setup.

      So I disabled my normal port forward.. Then enable UPnP

      And I get this.
      upnp.jpg

      After doing a can you see me for the port listed in the UPnP status 21735

      Is not coming up with that ID number.. A google for that ID and pfsense came up with this thread
      https://forum.netgate.com/topic/128685/firewall-log-showing-strange-pass-entry

      Can we see the raw firewall logs for these entries. Like in that thread.

      example - here is the raw entry for one of those passed via upnp

      Oct 15 06:10:27 	filterlog: 224,0,miniupnpd,0,igb1,match,pass,in,4,0x0,,42,13284,0,DF,6,tcp,60,52.202.215.126,192.168.9.10,58368,32400,0,S,2623792563,,26883,,mss;sackOK;TS;nop;wscale
      

      You can see from the log that miniupnpd there.. So lets see the raw for these entries.

      From that other thread
      Mar 25 14:42:05 pfSense filterlog: 4294967295,,,0,re0,short,pass,in,4,0x0,,239,10359,0,DF,6,tcp,36,105.212.87.78,[MYIPADDRESS],2123,23,-4,S,errormsg='[bad hdr length 20 - too long, > 16]',

      Not exactly sure what "short" means as the reason...

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        hulleyrob @johnpoz
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        @johnpoz yeah sure i did look at those last night but couldnt see anything that looked much differant from in the screenshot but maybe you will see something i cannot. Will post as soon as i get home from work. Thanks to everyone for input and testing this.

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          ASIC
          last edited by

          Here is my raw filter log for this:
          Oct 14 20:42:00 filterlog: 4294967295,,,0,pppoe0,short,pass,in,4,0x0,,241,53405,0,none,17,udp,27,103.240.140.10,[MYIPADDRESS],1810,1985,7

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          • johnpozJ
            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
            last edited by johnpoz

            @ASIC said in Had my pfSense been compromised?:

            short,

            I have no idea what that means... Have never seen that in the logs before.

            Found this;
            reason res - the reason that action was taken. Possible reasons are match, bad-offset, fragment, short, normalize, memory, bad-timestamp, congestion, ip-option, proto-cksum, state-mismatch, state-insert, state-limit, src-limit and synproxy.

            But not sure what "short" actually means?

            edit: Ok looks there have been some that match on short (2) - but still not actually finding anything that describes what it actually means

            [2.4.4-RELEASE][admin@sg4860.local.lan]/root: pfctl -s info
            Status: Enabled for 30 days 22:17:00          Debug: Urgent
            
            Interface Stats for igb0              IPv4             IPv6
              Bytes In                    350478233746         69232705
              Bytes Out                  1405455628533       1128183040
              Packets In
                Passed                       466867557           311496
                Blocked                           8876                1
              Packets Out
                Passed                       999590646          1171599
                Blocked                              0                0
            
            State Table                          Total             Rate
              current entries                      404               
              searches                      3535810440         1323.2/s
              inserts                         15778842            5.9/s
              removals                        15778438            5.9/s
            Counters
              match                           16542390            6.2/s
              bad-offset                             0            0.0/s
              fragment                              64            0.0/s
              short                                  2            0.0/s
              normalize                             21            0.0/s
              memory                                 0            0.0/s
              bad-timestamp                          0            0.0/s
              congestion                             0            0.0/s
              ip-option                            125            0.0/s
              proto-cksum                            0            0.0/s
              state-mismatch                      2834            0.0/s
              state-insert                           0            0.0/s
              state-limit                            0            0.0/s
              src-limit                              0            0.0/s
              synproxy                               0            0.0/s
              map-failed                             0            0.0/s
            [2.4.4-RELEASE][admin@sg4860.local.lan]/root: 
            

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              bchan @ASIC
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              @ASIC said in Had my pfSense been compromised?:

              Rule description is @4294967295.

              Same id as mine.๐Ÿค”

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                ASIC @bchan
                last edited by

                @bchan said in Had my pfSense been compromised?:

                4294967295

                Maybe because 4294967295(Dec) is equal to FFFFFFFF(Hex).

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                • johnpozJ
                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                  last edited by johnpoz

                  Ok so from research so fare

                  short packets dropped

                  Is that that is suppose to mean.. but why does it say passed then?

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                  • provelsP
                    provels
                    last edited by provels

                    So there is no outbound traffic to 103.240.140.10 from some device that creates this return Allow temp rule? Since all return traffic is allowed? Create a rule that allows (but logs) all traffic to 103.240.140.10? (LOL, ignore as needed! :)

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                    • johnpozJ
                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                      To be honest I think this is log of traffic that IP or transport header is too short.. But not sure why its saying pass... But I don't think that traffic is actually being passed to anything, not even pfsense.

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                        hulleyrob
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                        Oct 13 09:14:13 pfSense filterlog: 4294967295,16777216,,0,pppoe0,short,pass,in,4,0x0,,245,35606,0,none,17,udp,27,103.240.140.10,IP_REMOVED,3266,990,7
                        Oct 13 09:14:13 pfSense filterlog: 4294967295,16777216,,0,pppoe0,short,pass,in,4,0x0,,245,35608,0,none,17,udp,27,103.240.140.10,IP_REMOVED,2427,389,7
                        Oct 13 09:14:13 pfSense filterlog: 4294967295,16777216,,0,pppoe0,short,pass,in,4,0x0,,245,35605,0,none,17,udp,27,103.240.140.10,IP_REMOVED,1862,1025,7
                        Oct 13 09:14:13 pfSense filterlog: 4294967295,16777216,,0,pppoe0,short,pass,in,4,0x0,,245,35607,0,none,17,udp,27,103.240.140.10,IP_REMOVED,570,995,7
                        Oct 13 09:14:13 pfSense filterlog: 4294967295,16777216,,0,pppoe0,short,pass,in,4,0x0,,245,35604,0,none,17,udp,27,103.240.140.10,IP_REMOVED,493,514,7
                        Oct 13 09:14:13 pfSense filterlog: 4294967295,16777216,,0,pppoe0,short,pass,in,4,0x0,,245,35609,0,none,17,udp,27,103.240.140.10,IP_REMOVED,2375,445,7
                        Oct 13 09:14:13 pfSense filterlog: 4294967295,16777216,,0,pppoe0,short,pass,in,4,0x0,,245,35602,0,none,17,udp,27,103.240.140.10,IP_REMOVED,162,546,7
                        Oct 13 09:14:13 pfSense filterlog: 4294967295,16777216,,0,pppoe0,short,pass,in,4,0x0,,245,35603,0,none,17,udp,27,103.240.140.10,IP_REMOVED,3871,547,7
                        

                        Here are the entries from my log file.

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                        • johnpozJ
                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                          last edited by

                          So it seems these are short, ie something wrong with them... But the question is why are they getting logged as passed.. If they are short - they should just be dropped.

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                            hulleyrob @johnpoz
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                            @johnpoz if thats all it is it will be a relief as you saw on the screenshot above it looked like something had opened up all those ports.

                            What do I do now, is it worth reporting this somewhere for investigation?

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                            • johnpozJ
                              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                              last edited by

                              I would hope @jimp or @Derelict might be able to give more details of these "short" log entries..

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                              • jimpJ
                                jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
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                                I can't remember the last time I saw one marked short. It might be a fragment.

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                                • johnpozJ
                                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                  But the question is why is marked pass?

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                                  • jimpJ
                                    jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
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                                    If it's a fragment that is part of an existing connection, it would be passed. It might be that the state recently expired or was purged for some other reason so it was passed in but NAT didn't get applied, for example.

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                                    • johnpozJ
                                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                      last edited by johnpoz

                                      I doubt its frag, since that is a different counter - see my output from
                                      pfctl -s info

                                      above.

                                      From the logs he lists I doubt its part of an existing connection.. From everything I find short should be dropped, so why is it logged as if it passed?

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                                      • jimpJ
                                        jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
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                                        I'm not sure, unless it's being misinterpreted by filterlog.

                                        If you can reproduce it reliably, you could capture the pflog output directly and pipe it through tcpdump (as described on https://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/logging.html ) and see if that agrees.

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                                        • johnpozJ
                                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                          I can not tried to reporduce it, but you could prob for sure feed short packets via packet creation tool to try and duplicated the problem.

                                          But seems a few users are seeing a bunch of them - as you can see from my counters I have only ever seen 2 of them... But don't recall ever seeming in the the log as pass.. will keep an eye if that counter goes up and see what my log says since feeding all logs to syslog now for retention.. But if get a chance will try and duplicate a short to pfsense and see if can try and see what it logs.

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                                            ASIC @jimp
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                                            @jimp I have PfBlockerNG installed, and GeoIP Asia IP list, which includes 103.240.140.10, and it is applied as denied outbound connections on LAN, so there cannot be any existing connection to that IP.Clipboard01.jpg

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