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    Netgate SG-3100 LAN ports cannot go through LAN Gateway.

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    • stephenw10S
      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
      last edited by

      Hmm, sure behaves like a subnet conflict, like there is something else there responding as 192.168.1.1. If that was the case I would expect to see a load of errors in the system log though.

      Try running a packet capture on the LAN from Diag > Packet capture whilst pinging from the Windows host. Do you see the pings arriving?

      Steve

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        mmajian @stephenw10
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        @stephenw10 I also did try to change IP address for LAN to 192.168.10.1. And Windows computer get correct IP from DHCP 192.168.10.100. But still can't ping LAN.
        I will try to run packet capture on Monday and see what will happen. Thank you so much.

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          mmajian
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          I also found a very strange thing that when I connect Win10 computer to WirelessNetwork port, it gets correct IP address and gateway
          af8b64b5-7cac-4795-a129-a34377eee2c1-image.png
          But it also can ping LAN 192.168.1.1
          86bf2a30-449f-4f13-ab04-782463ae1bb3-image.png
          Even I have this rule in WirelessNetwork
          481dfcf1-cc5a-4413-ad3d-657b67e898e0-image.png
          Also when I tried to get route from 192.168.30.52 to 192.168.1.1 in Win10 computer
          290bbb19-b302-46d7-bcef-00fd9f073cc0-image.png
          It seems like it access 192.168.1.1 directly not through it's gateway 192.168.30.1
          Can anyone help to explain these weird phenomenon? Maybe by fixing this will fix the LAN ports can't reach LAN gateway problem. Thanks.

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          • DerelictD
            Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
            last edited by

            Not necessarily.

            192.168.1.1 is still only one hop away since that address exists on the same hop you reach at 192.168.30.1. It is free to respond to a traceroute using that address.

            Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
            A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
            DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
            Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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              mmajian @Derelict
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              @Derelict Thank you very much for trace-route. But why can I ping 192.168.1.1 from WirelessNetwork. I think anything from WirelessNetwork net to LAN net should be blocked by default.

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              • DerelictD
                Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                last edited by

                Well, if you want to BLOCK traffic on from Wireless network to LAN net then BLOCK it. Don't block traffic with a pass rule.

                Add a rule above what you have that blocks traffic to destination LAN net above what you have and see if the behavior changes.

                Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                  mmajian @Derelict
                  last edited by

                  @Derelict Great, thank you. I created a BLOCK rule and it's working.
                  Now I am backing LAN ports can't reach LAN gateway problem. Looks like fixing problems with WirelessNetwork doesn't fix LAN net. 😞

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                    mmajian @stephenw10
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                    @stephenw10 I connect one of the Win10 computer to LAN1 port and Switch setting is here:

                    aec0ce2b-b734-4276-af03-1f1a2eff37a4-image.png

                    It's getting correct IP address from LAN DHCP 192.168.1.115, but is't offline
                    2bcf2e02-11c1-40a7-888b-dbdf8aab579a-image.png

                    I started Packet capture on LAN interface for IPv4 only.
                    13107108-2369-4f78-a4be-7c3e519c7064-image.png
                    Looks like LAN can receive from Win10 computer but never reply.

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                    • johnpozJ
                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                      last edited by

                      Ok that is good info, now lets see your actual switch config.

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                        mmajian @johnpoz
                        last edited by

                        @johnpoz Sorry I am new to pfSense. What is actual switch config and how to view it? Thanks.

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                        • DerelictD
                          Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate @mmajian
                          last edited by

                          @mmajian said in Netgate SG-3100 LAN ports cannot go through LAN Gateway.:

                          @Derelict Great, thank you. I created a BLOCK rule and it's working.
                          Now I am backing LAN ports can't reach LAN gateway problem. Looks like fixing problems with WirelessNetwork doesn't fix LAN net. 😞

                          Yet another victim.

                          Someday people will listen.

                          Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                          A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                          DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                          Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                          • johnpozJ
                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                            last edited by johnpoz

                            See that tab you showing the ports - hit the vlan tab.. lets make sure nothing messed up there

                            switchports.jpg

                            That is the default settings, from one of my 3100s

                            You don't have any rules in in your floating tab do you? And for good measure lets see the routes.. under diag..

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                              mmajian @johnpoz
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                              @johnpoz Yes, my VLANs setting are same as yours. And I don't have rules in floating tab. And here is the routes:
                              fb392cfa-3674-4b88-8fe9-df6415920afd-image.png

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                              • johnpozJ
                                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                last edited by johnpoz

                                Have you tried reloading the firewall rules? Or I take it you have tried rebooting it? ;)
                                Try changing the IP to say 192.168.2.1/24 on the lan interface?

                                Everything looks right..

                                Are you seeing any errors on the interface, in the interface status?

                                
                                LAN Interface (lan, igb0)
                                
                                Status
                                    up
                                MAC Address
                                    00:08:a2:0c:e6:24 - ADI Engineering
                                IPv4 Address
                                    192.168.9.253
                                Subnet mask IPv4
                                    255.255.255.0
                                IPv6 Link Local
                                    fe80::208:a2ff:fe0c:e624%igb0
                                IPv6 Address
                                    2001:470:snipped::253
                                Subnet mask IPv6
                                    64
                                MTU
                                    1500
                                Media
                                    1000baseT <full-duplex>
                                In/out packets
                                    461831409/992950006 (321.12 GiB/1.27 TiB)
                                In/out packets (pass)
                                    461831409/992950006 (321.12 GiB/1.27 TiB)
                                In/out packets (block)
                                    8743/0 (506 KiB/0 B)
                                In/out errors
                                    0/0
                                Collisions
                                    0	
                                

                                You tried a different port?

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                                • stephenw10S
                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                  last edited by

                                  Looks like you have pfBlocker installed. Let's see the floating firewall rules. You maybe need to edit them to see all the info.

                                  That can block and not log traffic in LAN if it;s not configured correctly.

                                  Steve

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                                  • johnpozJ
                                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                    last edited by johnpoz

                                    He stated he has no rules on floating.

                                    You didn't setup any port forward rules did you?

                                    I would like to see the full output of the rules to be honest
                                    https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/firewall/viewing-the-full-pf-ruleset.html

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                                      mmajian @johnpoz
                                      last edited by mmajian

                                      @johnpoz No, zero errors on LAN interface and I did tried different ports. And I did tried change LAN IP to 192.168.10.1/24, still not working.

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                                        mmajian @stephenw10
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                                        @stephenw10 I disabled pfBlocker but no luck.

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                                          mmajian @johnpoz
                                          last edited by mmajian

                                          @johnpoz No port forward rules. No errors on LAN interface:
                                          d4428f71-7dc0-444e-8956-73bbe32f292f-image.png
                                          Here are all rules
                                          a756b796-d83e-44b7-8552-0b77bf3730aa-image.png
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                                          • DerelictD
                                            Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate @mmajian
                                            last edited by Derelict

                                            @mmajian said in Netgate SG-3100 LAN ports cannot go through LAN Gateway.:

                                            Yes, my VLANs setting are same as yours.

                                            Please post them.

                                            It's not rules (though it looks like you are still using a ! LAN net rule for some inexplicable reason.)

                                            Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                                            A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                                            DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                                            Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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