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    Unable to access any network that uses the same ISP as I do

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    • JKnottJ Offline
      JKnott @AKEGEC
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      @AKEGEC

      "Sharing" movies etc. was theft long before there was an Internet. Movies, TVs shows, records, books and more have long been covered by copyright laws. I have no idea what you mean by your post.

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      • GertjanG Offline
        Gertjan
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        @AKEGEC : check out the consumer rights and other usage conditions of your ISP.
        When signing up, you agree with them.

        An ISP has no interest about using or selling private things of a user. Eventually, always, some one will find out .... and then the ISP will die - go out of business.

        Btw : if a major knows that a ISP knows (or is able to see) that a ISP client shares private info (the movie) then the major will probably 'attack' the ISP. Because it's just a simple fact knows as 'stealing'.
        So, ISP's will reference to local laws, and some own laws (selling conditions) like "one shall not try to lauch nukes that do not belong to you ...".

        Also : when you share an Internet connection you have to trust the person(s) who you share with.
        Like sharing your car.
        Your house.
        No trust ? Abuse ? Simple. Don't share - issue closed.

        @AKEGEC said in Unable to access any network that uses the same ISP as I do:

        but that does not mean ISP has the right to take over your family, friends and yours security and privacy rights

        Humm. I'm living in Europe. So basic human rights are part of our (ancient) constitution. They have tried everything in Europe for the last 20 (or more ?) centuries. We hold the absolute world record of trying out different types of societies -and the quantity of people that perished because of it is daunting - still, something like voting (democracy) was already created before the birth of Christ, somewhere in Greece.
        Because the system wasn't perfect, some 3 centuries ago, people had a opportunity to leave (instead of simply not being happy : they went oversees and created the USA while doing so).

        What I mean : I have the luxury to say that I don't understand your remark.

        My ISP is like my boss, land lord, tax services, my bank, water company, my electric company, assurances, the food I buy, my car .... and what the f**k, my own wife.
        My ISP ? Ah, common on, that is the new one on the block, w'll see about that one. Let's deal with the others first, as they were there first. ^^

        No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
        Edit : and where are the logs ??

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        • stephenw10S Offline
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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          We are getting off topic here. 😉

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          • johnpozJ Offline
            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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            Yah think ;) hehehe

            And yet to get any info worth anything.

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            • AKEGECA Offline
              AKEGEC @Gertjan
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              @Gertjan said in Unable to access any network that uses the same ISP as I do:

              @AKEGEC : check out the consumer rights and other usage conditions of your ISP.
              When signing up, you agree with them.

              An ISP has no interest about using or selling private things of a user. Eventually, always, some one will find out .... and then the ISP will die - go out of business.

              Btw : if a major knows that a ISP knows (or is able to see) that a ISP client shares private info (the movie) then the major will probably 'attack' the ISP. Because it's just a simple fact knows as 'stealing'.
              So, ISP's will reference to local laws, and some own laws (selling conditions) like "one shall not try to lauch nukes that do not belong to you ...".

              Also : when you share an Internet connection you have to trust the person(s) who you share with.
              Like sharing your car.
              Your house.
              No trust ? Abuse ? Simple. Don't share - issue closed.

              @AKEGEC said in Unable to access any network that uses the same ISP as I do:

              but that does not mean ISP has the right to take over your family, friends and yours security and privacy rights

              Humm. I'm living in Europe. So basic human rights are part of our (ancient) constitution. They have tried everything in Europe for the last 20 (or more ?) centuries. We hold the absolute world record of trying out different types of societies -and the quantity of people that perished because of it is daunting - still, something like voting (democracy) was already created before the birth of Christ, somewhere in Greece.
              Because the system wasn't perfect, some 3 centuries ago, people had a opportunity to leave (instead of simply not being happy : they went oversees and created the USA while doing so).

              What I mean : I have the luxury to say that I don't understand your remark.

              My ISP is like my boss, land lord, tax services, my bank, water company, my electric company, assurances, the food I buy, my car .... and what the f**k, my own wife.
              My ISP ? Ah, common on, that is the new one on the block, w'll see about that one. Let's deal with the others first, as they were there first. ^^

              Well we have a different opinion about that and that’s ok. However you'll definitely agree with me on this one;

              You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep. 😴

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              • GertjanG Offline
                Gertjan @AKEGEC
                last edited by

                @AKEGEC said in Unable to access any network that uses the same ISP as I do:

                Well we have a different opinion about that and that’s ok.

                All of it ?

                No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                Edit : and where are the logs ??

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