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    DNS Resolver - only on 443 > DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN

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    • charles_moodyC
      charles_moody
      last edited by

      Hey guys,

      I resetted my entire network and started from scratch with basic settings. I hope someone can point me in the right direction.

      I got basically all services running I need BUT with one exception: Most of my vlans are leaving the network trough a VPN (expressvpn), IoT and Smart Devices have no problems with netflix, but when trying to reach netflix.com on a browser I get DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN > EVEN on devices which are not on the VPN vlans.

      Where did I miss?

      -NO VPN > LAN + VL10_MGMT
      -VPN > VL30_VGSH + VL50_VGNET

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      Unbound enabled / dnsmasq disabled
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      Have a great day!

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      • kiokomanK
        kiokoman LAYER 8
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        i can tell you that you don't need dnssec
        and you are not forwarding dns request
        maybe try with DNS Query Forwarding enabled
        I don't notice anything wrong with your screenshots but perhaps the error escapes me

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        • johnpozJ
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
          last edited by johnpoz

          @kiokoman said in DNS Resolver - only on 443 > DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN:

          i can tell you that you don't need dnssec

          Why is that, he is not forwarding in unbound - so he would prob want dnssec.. Only if he is forwarding would he not want dnssec checked.

          Maybe I need more coffee.. But Im a bit confused on what your wanting to accomplish for clients.. So you want to route them out the vpn.. But what do you want them to use for dns?

          Looks like you have your resolver trying to resolve, not forward.. And have clients be able to use dot to unbound, but then unbound would just resolve out using this 1 vpn connection?

          But your not allowing the devices to talk to unbound on 853 per your rules, you forcing all traffic out gateway?

          You understand browsers these days also like to turn on doh by default, maybe your browser is trying to use doh, which you are routing through a vpn, and that might be blocked by the vpn?

          Maybe vpn providers tell you to only use their NSers - or your "leaking" ;)

          I really do not understand the use of dot or doh locally? Who are you trying to hide dns queries from on your local network? Yourself?

          What exactly are you wanting to happen? What do you want the clients to use for dns? Where do you want pfsense to resolve? Understanding that anything put in general is possible for pfsense to use for its own internal resolving, and it would not use dot or doh to talk to these servers.

          There is a redmine out to be able to adjust this behavior going forward.
          https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/10931

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          • kiokomanK
            kiokoman LAYER 8
            last edited by

            that's what confused me, if he does not want to forward why setting dns in general setup with gateway specified?
            or I am the one that need more coffee

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            • johnpozJ
              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
              last edited by

              Yeah - not exactly sure what his end goal here is?? Its a bit of hodge podge of settings, or maybe I just need a few more cups ;)

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              • charles_moodyC
                charles_moody
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                Please grab a drink and spend some time with a fool.

                I had it all in openwrt, the vlans as regular internal networks/lan and clients going out the vpn.

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                • johnpozJ
                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                  Last time I Played with open or ddwrt was a really long time ago, but I do not believe it ran resolve - it ran forwarder.

                  If you want some outside dns to be used, then either point all your clients to those directly, or setup unbound to forward. In your current screenshots your resolving.. So those entries in general don't have anything to do with your clients that ask pfsense (unbound) for dns.

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                  • charles_moodyC
                    charles_moody @johnpoz
                    last edited by

                    @johnpoz said in DNS Resolver - only on 443 > DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN:

                    Maybe vpn providers tell you to only use their NSers - or your "leaking" ;)

                    In another thread here in the forum I read that those DNS-servers are neccessary for Netflix to load everything as usual using a VPN inbetween

                    or setup unbound to forward

                    Disabled DNSSEC and setup unbound to forward, I'm now able to reach netflix.com via https, thanks

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                    But your not allowing the devices to talk to unbound on 853 per your rules, you forcing all traffic out gateway?

                    Could you please elaborate on this? I really don't want anything exposed to the world

                    Kind regards
                    Max

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                    • GertjanG
                      Gertjan @charles_moody
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                      @charles_moody said in DNS Resolver - only on 443 > DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN:

                      elaborate

                      Here : https://forum.netgate.com/topic/139771/setup-dns-over-tls-on-pfsense-2-4-4-p2-guide/66?_=1603282378283

                      No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                      Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                      • johnpozJ
                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                        last edited by johnpoz

                        Your rules force all traffic out the gateway.

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                        And the rules below that make no sense, because rules are evaluated top down, first rule to trigger wins, no other rules are evaluated.

                        So your rule sending traffic out your gateway is any any.. When would there be traffic that does trigger that rules.

                        When would there be traffic to ! private, that does not match the rule above it any any?

                        If you want your clients to talk to pfsense IP.. Where do you allow that? You block talking to pfsense on 443, then your next rule says go out the vpn.. How does vpn have access to pfsense vlan30 interface for example?

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