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    To 2.5.0 or not ? that is the question :)

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    • buggzB Offline
      buggz @stephenw10
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      @stephenw10
      2.5.0 for me.

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      • buggzB Offline
        buggz @buggz
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        I give up, now broken again.
        I wont report no more, as I am certain everyone, and me, is tired of hearing from a "whiner".

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        • yon 0Y Offline
          yon 0 @q54e3w
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          @q54e3w

          i agree. i think shouldnt give up wireguard now. this bug main is kernel, linux kernel report fixed this. Don't give up eating because of choking.

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          • AKEGECA Offline
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            If I may suggest for users who experienced bugs, just do a clean install 2.5.0 or you could try 2.5.1 (for testing purpose only) please note no WireGuard:
            https://snapshots.netgate.com/amd64/pfSense_RELENG_2_5_1/installer/
            Then do re-configure from the scratch.

            About WireGuard, in my opinion there was some miscommunication between Netgate team and Jason A. Donenfeld (WireGuard). I really hope they would come to some agreement that benefit for their users and not waiting until June.

            Here is a full statement from Jason A. Donenfeld :

            Hi everybody,
            
            I’m pleased to announce that WireGuard now runs inside the FreeBSD
            kernel, with a driver called if_wg. It has full support of wg(8) and
            wg-quick(8) [5], as well as general integration into FreeBSD userland.
            Performance should be decent. The implementation in FreeBSD’s main
            branch should pretty much work, though it’s something of a so-so work in
            progress. To learn what I mean there, read on…
            
            Sometime ago, a popular firewall vendor tasked a developer with writing
            a WireGuard implementation for FreeBSD. They didn’t bother reaching out
            to the project. That’s okay, I figured, I’ll reach out and see if I can
            help and coordinate. What followed over the next year was a series of
            poor communications – messages unanswered, code reviews ignored, that
            kind of thing. Usually collaborations I’ve had with others have been
            full of excitement, but it just didn’t work out here. In the few
            discussions we were able to have, I did get across some key points,
            like, “you’ll save a bunch of time if you use the OpenBSD code as a
            starting point.” But mostly it seemed like a stop-and-go effort that the
            WireGuard project didn’t have much to do with. Then, at some point,
            whatever code laying around got merged into the FreeBSD tree and the
            developer tasked with writing it moved on.
            
            Fortunately, two weeks before FreeBSD 13.0 was due to be released,
            FreeBSD core developer Kyle Evans emailed the list about integrating
            wireguard-tools (wg(8) and such). In the ensuing discussion I mentioned
            that we really need to get the actual if_wg kernel implementation up to
            snuff. We took the conversation to IRC, and agreed that we should work
            on figuring out what to do before the release date. At the same time,
            Matt Dunwoodie, who worked on the OpenBSD implementation, also took a
            look at what had become of that implementation in FreeBSD. Over the next
            week, the three of us dug in and completely reworked the implementation
            from top to bottom, each one of us pushing commits and taking passes
            through the code to ensure correctness. The result was [6]. It was an
            incredible effort. The collaboration was very fast paced and exciting.
            Matt and Kyle are terrific programmers and fun to work with too.
            
            The first step was assessing the current state of the code the previous
            developer had dumped into the tree. It was not pretty. I imagined
            strange Internet voices jeering, “this is what gives C a bad name!”
            There were random sleeps added to “fix” race conditions, validation
            functions that just returned true, catastrophic cryptographic
            vulnerabilities, whole parts of the protocol unimplemented, kernel
            panics, security bypasses, overflows, random printf statements deep in
            crypto code, the most spectacular buffer overflows, and the whole litany
            of awful things that go wrong when people aren’t careful when they write
            C. Or, more simply, it seems typical of what happens when code ships
            that wasn’t meant to. It was essentially an incomplete half-baked
            implementation – nothing close to something anybody would want on a
            production machine. Matt had to talk me out of just insisting they pull
            the code entirely, and rework it more slowly and carefully for the next
            release cycle. And he was right: nobody would have agreed to do that,
            and it would only have fostered frustration from folks genuinely
            enthusiastic about if_wg. So our one and only option was to iteratively
            improve it as fast as we could during the two weeks before release, and
            try to make it as simple and close as possible to OpenBSD so that we
            could benefit from the previous analysis done there. With that as our
            mission, we set out auditing and rewriting code.
            
            One curious thing of note is that there were 40,000 lines of optimized
            crypto implementations pulled out of the Linux kernel compat module but
            not really wired up correctly, and mangled beyond repair with mazes of
            Linux→FreeBSD ifdefs. I wound up replacing this with an 1,800 line file,
            crypto.c [1], containing all of the cryptographic primitives needed to
            implement WireGuard. Aside from its place in the FreeBSD story, this is
            kind of neat in its own right: these are simple, but fast enough,
            reference implementations. It’s not deliberately tiny or obfuscated like
            TweetNaCl is, yet is still just a single file, and the Curve25519 field
            arithmetic in it is formally verified. Maybe other projects will find
            use for it. Future releases will hopefully get rid of crypto.c and hook
            into FreeBSD’s already existing optimized implementations [4], which
            should give a nice performance boost, but given the time crunch, having
            something boring, safe, and simple seemed like the way to go.
            
            We reduced the project structure down to four C files – the
            aforementioned crypto.c, two files copied verbatim from OpenBSD –
            wg_noise.c and wg_cookie.c – and if_wg.c, the actual interface device
            driver implementation and protocol logic. The IPC interface was reworked
            as well, and wg(8) in the wireguard-tools package grew support for it
            (also rewritten from the original attempt). The three of us spent
            countless hours across three time zones auditing state machine logic,
            running trials,  and generally trying to get this working and workable.
            There are now even a few automated tests!
            
            I think we’ve mostly succeeded in producing something that behaves like
            WireGuard. The net result certainly isn’t perfect, though – the Linux
            and OpenBSD implementations were long, careful, slow projects by
            comparison – but it is at least a base on which to build and improve
            over time. Going forward, I think there’ll be additional systems coding
            issues to work out – locking, lifetimes, races, and that sort of thing.
            But now that there’s at least a stable base, developers can work out
            remaining issues incrementally.
            
            But perhaps this is a good moment to step back and ask how we got here,
            and what WireGuard itself really is.
            
            Traditionally, network protocols are specified in a document of protocol
            behaviors. Then different organizations implement that specification.
            Then everybody interoperates and all goes well. In practice, it often
            doesn’t go well (see IPsec woes), but this at least has been the
            traditional way of doing this on the Internet, and in some ways it
            works.
            
            But that is not the approach taken by the WireGuard project. In
            contrast, WireGuard is both a protocol and a set of implementations,
            implemented with a particular set of security and safety techniques.
            That’s a radical departure from the traditional model, and one surely to
            raise some grumbles amongst graybeards. But I believe this is a
            necessary and beneficial quality for having the types of high assurance
            software that is needed for core Internet security infrastructure. When
            you use WireGuard, you’re not just using some protocol that is capable
            of producing packets that are legible by others. You’re also using an
            implementation that’s been designed to avoid security pitfalls, and that
            provides interfaces for using it that mitigate footguns. In that way,
            the WireGuard project is more expansive than a mere protocol project or
            a mere software project or a mere cryptography project or a mere
            specification project or a mere interface project. It combines all of
            those things into a single unified approach. (For this same reason, the
            original WireGuard paper [2] has been difficult for folks to categorize.
            Is this a systems paper? A networking paper? A crypto paper?)
            
            Because of that, I think this was an understandable predicament. After
            all, why shouldn’t a company be able to task a developer with writing
            some ring-0 WireGuard code in C? And why does it matter to me whether
            the code is garbage if it can at least produce protocol packets? The
            reason is that the WireGuard project’s mission is wider than that. We
            deeply care about code quality and implementation particulars.
            
            While we now have the FreeBSD code in a maintainable state, there are
            other projects too that could use some attention from us. Looking
            forward, for example, we hope to be able to lend a hand similarly to the
            NetBSD developers soon to help them finish their implementation; this is
            long overdue on my part, and I owe them some time and energy there. And
            I hope that others don’t hesitate to email the list asking for
            collaboration. This kind of thing is, of course, one of the reasons that
            the project as an organization exists.
            
            To return to the primary announcement, I had originally hoped to say
            that this would be shipping for 13.0, and have some instructions for
            setup there, but unfortunately, and contrary to our plans, it looks
            exceedingly likely that given the grave issues we found in the existing
            code, they’ll in the end just disable the module from the release, and
            revisit for 13.1, rather than merging our fixes a few short days before
            the release. That’s a bit of a bummer, given how hard we worked to get
            things done in the time crunch, but it’s also probably a very wise
            decision that takes some courage to make, and this will give us more
            time to really get this rock solid for 13.1.
            
            As well, hopefully we’ll have backport modules for the 13.0 and 12.y
            release, making it as available as possible. Kyle or I will update the
            list when  we’ve got a standalone backport module ready, with
            instructions, as well as updating [3] per usual. There’s also ongoing
            work to integrate WireGuard interface setup into rc, and hopefully that
            will land during the the next release window, as well as the
            aforementioned improvements to optimized crypto and systems issues.
            
            Enjoy,
            Jason
            
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