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      networknotwork @johnpoz
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      @johnpoz yep did that, but will try again. Are you using the Windows built in ssh (bundled starting with 1809 I think) or another ssh client?

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        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @networknotwork
        last edited by johnpoz

        @networknotwork hold - you might be right ;) stupid me was hitting enter not backspace..

        doh! Well shit! ;)

        sorry about that - need more coffee I guess ;)

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          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @networknotwork
          last edited by johnpoz

          @networknotwork ok I think I got it ;)

          in your .tcshrc file at the end add

          set nobeep

          this seems to have done it.

          tested with ssh that is part of windows

          C:\>ver
          
          Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.19044.1415]
          
          C:\>ssh -V
          OpenSSH_for_Windows_8.1p1, LibreSSL 3.0.2
          

          Or if you like your file to be a bit cleaner looking in the area where its setting prompt and stuff you could add the nobeep

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            networknotwork @johnpoz
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            @johnpoz not at my PC but this sounds right, so dang difficult to find stuff specific for tcsh/FreeBSD, just get a deluge of bash/Linux hits…I literally googled (well, DDG’ed) “disable tcsh bell” and didn’t find this.

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              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @networknotwork
              last edited by johnpoz

              @networknotwork btw, I tested this with ssh from openssh for windows as well, and it still works - since its related to the shell (tcsh)

              C:\>ssh -V
              OpenSSH_8.8p1, OpenSSL 1.1.1l  24 Aug 2021
              

              Not sure why the windows built in ssh is so far behind..

              Just got a fancy new PC, and still working on getting all the stuff back to the way I like it.. Upon testing this and seeing that the windows version ssh that comes with was so far behind it was time to correct that ;) I normally just use securecrt for my ssh needs, but now and then you need to do stuff from just the command line

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                Gertjan @networknotwork
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                @networknotwork said in How to disable bell on SSH connections:

                difficult to find stuff specific for tcsh/FreeBSD

                It's here https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?tcsh(1).

                I've been looking for the beep one myself quiet often, and was thrown of track because what the first line in /etc/passws says : your shell is /bin/sh

                But ... when 'root' (or 'admin') logs in, /bin/sh uses /root/.profile that will kick of /etc/rc.initial. rc.initial shows the 'asccii pfsense' menu.
                Option 8 of this script will kick of another shell, this time /bin/tcsh

                Btw : files like /root/.tcshrc will get overwritten what updating / upgrading and maybe during other circumstances.

                No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Gertjan
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                  @gertjan said in How to disable bell on SSH connections:

                  files like /root/.tcshrc will get overwritten what updating / upgrading and maybe during other circumstances.

                  quite true.. so need to keep that in mind going forward.

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                    networknotwork @johnpoz
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                    @johnpoz maybe you guys should just add this to the default .tcshrc :-) I doubt anyone likes the bell!

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                      networknotwork @Gertjan
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                      @gertjan I think /bin/sh in passwd is there for some weird compatibility/historical reasons; it’s usually symlinked to another shell like tcsh/bash in the file system, I don’t think any distro still uses the original sh; the default on FreeBSD is tcsh

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                      • johnpozJ
                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @networknotwork
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                        @networknotwork said in How to disable bell on SSH connections:

                        I doubt anyone likes the bell!

                        hehehe - you never know ;) But sure you could put in a feature request to have that as an option you could turn off or on in the gui..

                        They have it where you can turn off the bootup/shutdown beep

                        notifications.jpg

                        I would think they could add a option where you configure ssh access to disable that beep ;)

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                        • GertjanG
                          Gertjan @networknotwork
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                          @networknotwork said in How to disable bell on SSH connections:

                          I don’t think any distro still uses the original sh

                          Think again.

                          dump /bin/sh yourself.
                          The binary will ID itself to you.
                          It no sym link.

                          It's 'sh'.

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                          Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                            networknotwork @johnpoz
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                            @johnpoz is there a feature request/bug report board? Couldn't find one. Anway, while editing .tcshrc I found a bug: it checks for $term == "xterm" to set key bindings, it should be $term =~ "xterm" to account for xterm-256color etc.

                            Command line editing wasn't working properly before I made this change, inserting appeared like it was overwriting (not pushing rest of line to the right as I typed) but was actually inserting my typed chars into the line.

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                              networknotwork @Gertjan
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                              @gertjan yeah, pfsense is the exception that proves the rule!

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                              • johnpozJ
                                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @networknotwork
                                last edited by johnpoz

                                @networknotwork you can create a feature request over on https://redmine.pfsense.org/

                                And if you found a bug/issue or improvement in the .tcshrc you could put that in there as well.

                                edit: This has been a enlightening thread to be sure.. I learned a bit about making sure your actually awake when testing something ;) and also about the stupid bell thing hehe, and got me to update my local ssh client too.

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