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    robbwk
    last edited by Mar 6, 2022, 11:03 AM

    I've been using pfsense for about two months without any problems until a few days ago. Pfsense has begun to create duplicate entries in the firewall rules. I enter a single IP to be rejected and pfsense responds with two of the same IP in the rules.

    Any suggestions how I can resolve this anomoly?

    Thanks

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      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @robbwk
      last edited by Mar 6, 2022, 12:52 PM

      @robbwk can you show us this rule?

      An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools
      If you get confused: Listen to the Music Play
      Please don't Chat/PM me for help, unless mod related
      SG-4860 24.11 | Lab VMs 2.7.2, 24.11

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        robbwk
        last edited by robbwk Mar 6, 2022, 4:57 PM Mar 6, 2022, 4:56 PM

        Firts, thank you for your kind and quick reply. Appreciated.

        Here are a couple of screen grabs that, I hope, will be helpful.login-to-view login-to-view

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          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @robbwk
          last edited by Mar 6, 2022, 5:00 PM

          @robbwk well one thing for sure you wouldn't want to use reject.. This sends a response..

          Why are you trying to reject them, default is deny - do you have port forwards open and your trying to stop them from getting to your port forward?

          Or mail server? I can not say I have ever seen such a thing.. My guess would be your browser is double submitting the rule?

          An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools
          If you get confused: Listen to the Music Play
          Please don't Chat/PM me for help, unless mod related
          SG-4860 24.11 | Lab VMs 2.7.2, 24.11

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            robbwk
            last edited by Mar 6, 2022, 6:07 PM

            I used Reject to try and impress on these folks that their Spam is not appreciated. I can easily change that to Deny. That isn't the point though. The double entry is the point.

            Yes, I am trying to protect mail servers. The amount of Spam I get is ridiculous and my storage system would be in serious trouble if I simply allowed all this rubbish to enter. I have SpamAssassin and Baysian on the mail servers but, that requires a lot of multiple entries to stop some Spammers that change IPs and domains by the minute. Stopping the IPs is my only effective solution. PFSense has reduced incoming by 75%. It's a great piece of software.

            All I am trying to do is figure out why I get two entries. The rest is irrelevant.

            Grateful for your reply.

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              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
              last edited by Mar 6, 2022, 6:15 PM

              Are you running pfSense 2.6?

              Check the actual config file /conf/confg.xml and the generated rulset file /tmp/rules.debug. Do the duplicate entries appear there too or is this a display bug?

              Steve

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                robbwk
                last edited by Mar 6, 2022, 6:31 PM

                Hi and thanks for your attention and time.

                I'm running version 2.5.2. Are you suggesting that this version creates duplicate entries? I will upgrade, if you instruct.

                I'll check the config and ruleset as you suggest. I'll respond tomorrow with appropriate information.

                Thanks again for your advice and effort.

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                  robbwk
                  last edited by Mar 6, 2022, 6:49 PM

                  Decided to do it now. Files (sections of) attached.pfsense-config-xml.txt rule.debug.txt

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                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by Mar 6, 2022, 10:22 PM

                    Hmm so, yes, the rule is actually created twice. How exactly are you creating it?

                    I only asked what version you're running because we need that to attempt to replicate it if it really is a bug. However it's unlikely a bug discovered in 2.5.2 will get fixed at this point. If you can replicate it in 2.6 then we can open a report and dig deeper.

                    Steve

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                      robbwk
                      last edited by robbwk Mar 7, 2022, 9:33 AM Mar 7, 2022, 9:30 AM

                      High Steve, appreciate your time.

                      I create the rule using the drop-down form (GUI). I do not use command line to do this. The choices are simple and I can't imagine I'm doing anything unusual.

                      I will upgrade to 2.6, later today and run it with few rules to start. Then, I will need to bring in the backup file from 2.5.2 or I will have to re-enter all the IPs and I don't really have that amount of time to spare.

                      Bear in mind that PFSense did not start out creating duplicates. For the first month or so, it created a single entry from my choices.

                      A little more information: I run the firewall as a VM in vSphere 6.7.

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                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                        last edited by Mar 7, 2022, 1:32 PM

                        Are you running as an HA pair? Or config syncing for any other reason?

                        It's hard to imagine anything that could cause that. 🤔

                        Since it's a VM you can easily snapshot it and roll back if upgrading to 2.6 makes no difference at least.

                        Steve

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                          robbwk
                          last edited by Mar 9, 2022, 11:47 AM

                          Hi Steven,

                          Thanks for your message.

                          I have updated the software to version 2.6. I removed the duplicates (which I could not do in 2.5 as if I deleted one, the other also disappeared). I have added a few test IPs and all seems to be okay.

                          For me, at least, 2.5 had a glitch. 2.6, appears to have resolved it.

                          I am grateful for the help and advice give on this forum. If anything goes south over the next few days, I'll report to you.

                          Robb

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                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                            last edited by Mar 9, 2022, 1:48 PM

                            Ah, good to hear. 👍

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