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    SG-2100 23.01 update failed

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    • keyserK
      keyser Rebel Alliance @mcury
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      @mcury Not in issue regarding the M.2 Sata port. Its the SOC’s M.2 SATA feature that drives this.

      Love the no fuss of using the official appliances :-)

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        keyser Rebel Alliance @mspeculatrix
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        @mspeculatrix said in SG-2100 23.01 update failed:

        @keyser Ok, thanks guys. SSD ordered from Amazon. I've already replaced the SG-2100, but it would be good to have a backup.

        Did you notice the “speciel” keyed M.2 SATA device needed for the SG-2100? Standard M.2 SATA keyed drives cannot be mounted.

        Love the no fuss of using the official appliances :-)

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        • keyserK
          keyser Rebel Alliance @mspeculatrix
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          @mspeculatrix They are not hard to find, you just need to be aware of this.

          Love the no fuss of using the official appliances :-)

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            mcury @keyser
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            @keyser said in SG-2100 23.01 update failed:

            Not in issue regarding the M.2 Sata port. Its the SOC’s M.2 SATA feature that drives this.

            hm, I thought that the M.2 port was PCI and not Sata. Disregard my last post then.
            Thanks for the info keyser.

            dead on arrival, nowhere to be found.

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              bigsy @keyser
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              @keyser Are you sure about that for the 2100? I know it's the case for the 4100/6100.

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                mspeculatrix @keyser
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                @keyser I read this: https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/solutions/netgate-2100/m-2-sata-installation.html

                It says nothing about special keying - just that it has to be a 2242 and not NVMe.

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                  bigsy @mspeculatrix
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                  @mspeculatrix I have a factory fitted 32GB m.2 sata in a 2100. I haven't opened the case to see what it looks like. Smartctl reports it as ATP SATA III M.2 2242

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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                    Yeah a standard 42mm m.2 SATA drive should fit in the 2100. And yes that should work fine if the eMMC is dead for whatever reason.

                    Steve

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                    • keyserK
                      keyser Rebel Alliance @mspeculatrix
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                      @mspeculatrix said in SG-2100 23.01 update failed:

                      @keyser I read this: https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/solutions/netgate-2100/m-2-sata-installation.html

                      It says nothing about special keying - just that it has to be a 2242 and not NVMe.

                      Ahh, right, it was the NVMe drive in my 6100 that required a special key’ing. Sorry about that :-)
                      Then it’s just a standard 2242 M.2 Sata SSD

                      Love the no fuss of using the official appliances :-)

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                      • keyserK
                        keyser Rebel Alliance @bigsy
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                        @bigsy said in SG-2100 23.01 update failed:

                        @keyser Are you sure about that for the 2100? I know it's the case for the 4100/6100.

                        Yes, perfectly sure. If the PCI not working invalidated the M.2 slot, all of Netgates factory sold MAX models with 32Gb SSD would be impacted as well.

                        Love the no fuss of using the official appliances :-)

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                          bigsy @keyser
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                          @keyser I was referring to your comment re the keying on the m.2 sata

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                            netboy @bigsy
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                            @bigsy From all these posts this is what I infer:

                            Install a M.2 Sata Drive in SG-2100 and re-install the pfSense® Plus software on the new M.2 SATA drive.

                            What I would like to do (not sure this is feasible):

                            • Buy a M.2 Sata drive

                            • Install the pfSense software on this drive (M.2 Sata is stand alone not installed in SG-2100)

                            • Whenever the pfSense update goes south open the SG-2100 and install the M.2 with pre-installed PfSense

                            Will the above work?

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                              bigsy @netboy
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                              @netboy Reinstall on the new drive inserted in the 2100.

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                                netboy @bigsy
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                                @bigsy I want to re-install directly into the M.2 stand alone (M.2 is not installed in SG-2100) - Possible?

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                                • stephenw10S
                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                  Technically it could be done since the recovery media just copies an image onto the target disk. Just extract the image from the recovery image and write it to the drive.
                                  But it would be much easier just to write it to the drive in the 2100.

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                                    netboy @stephenw10
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                                    @stephenw10 Thank you.

                                    This is my understanding....Please confirm.

                                    In case my 2100 update goes south I can recover to stock pfsense plus software directly to 2100 (without M.2) flash memory. To do this:

                                    • I need to request the software using support ticket,

                                    • Flash a USB using the download from above

                                    • Then try to install it using guide

                                    • Once the pfsense plus is installed RESTORE BIN back up image

                                    Is the above process correct? Are the URL links I provided above correct?

                                    Can I go ahead of do the updates to 23.01? Will it go south on me?

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                                      SteveITS Galactic Empire @netboy
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                                      @netboy said in SG-2100 23.01 update failed:

                                      Then try to install it using guide

                                      That's the console connection, which you'll need, but also https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/solutions/netgate-2100/reinstall-pfsense.html

                                      Otherwise yes. Make a backup/download of your config first.

                                      Once the pfsense plus is installed RESTORE BIN back up image

                                      Not sure I understand this? Always have a backup. You can always request firmware before upgrading.

                                      Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
                                      When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
                                      Upvote 👍 helpful posts!

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                                        netboy @SteveITS
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                                        @steveits Yes I always take a backup (BIN) if I make any changes or do updates. Thanks for the URL.

                                        For the record do ALL updates to 23.01 fail or only some? Has netgate ISOLATED the ones that fail and corrected the udpates?

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                                          SteveITS Galactic Empire @netboy
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                                          @netboy See thread https://forum.netgate.com/topic/178007/update-2100-to-23-01-advice/7, seems Netgate can't replicate it yet. I know of at least one other forum user who posted it worked (and, generally people post about problems, not when something works as expected). I haven't tried yet, need to wait until my wife and son aren't using it. :)

                                          Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
                                          When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
                                          Upvote 👍 helpful posts!

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                                            netboy @SteveITS
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                                            @steveits said in SG-2100 23.01 update failed:

                                            I haven't tried yet, need to wait until my wife and son aren't using it. :)
                                            👍

                                            I always have a backup plan if router fails....Have a travel router to which I can connect my phone USB (hotspot) and my whole network will have internet. Not the best speed but at least can be connected.

                                            IMHO it is always better to have a plan BEFORE shit hits the fan.

                                            I will probably wait to do my updates.

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