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Pfsense/Netgate unable to login, Fatal error

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    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
    last edited by Mar 27, 2023, 1:36 PM

    After you've logged in can you visit a page other than the dash directly?

    Like the /system_advanced_admin.php for example?

    If you can reach that you can enable ssh there.

    If you can connect the USB console to some other local machine you can enable ssh from the menu there also.

    Steve

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      stormchaser5 @stephenw10
      last edited by stormchaser5 Mar 27, 2023, 9:04 PM Mar 27, 2023, 8:59 PM

      @stephenw10 I can't log in at all, ssh, web anything. I won't be physically in front of the device for a couple of weeks at least as it in in a datacenter in another state. I will have to console into it I guess.

      It is troubling the device just threw this error and can't be logged in. Unless it was hacked, there is a issue somewhere in the code base. As it worked fine for months, then all the sudden this, with no login, except some occasional low volume OpenVPN sessions. It's in a rack, in a datacenter so power/ac is not an issue.

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        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
        last edited by Mar 27, 2023, 9:28 PM

        So you don't even see the login screen?

        If there was no change made on the firewall then I would suspect a drive issue. If the boot drive fails services will fail over time as and when they need to read/write data. Without some sort of access it's hard to say though.

        Steve

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          stormchaser5 @stephenw10
          last edited by Mar 27, 2023, 9:53 PM

          @stephenw10 pfsense-dashboard-screen.JPG

          This is what the web page looks like when you go to the external web page (dashboard) to login. Just this string of characters.

          A hardware failure, such as a disk sound plausable. But this XG-7100 is like a year and half old. So seems unlikely and is in a pristine enviroment, power/cooling and very low workload. In a few weeks will probably get to the bottom of it when I get console access. But it's very strange. I am glad it's still working on some level as a gateway.

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            SteveITS Galactic Empire @stormchaser5
            last edited by Mar 27, 2023, 10:01 PM

            @stormchaser5 If I was traveling on site I'd bring a USB stick with the install image on it just in case.
            https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/solutions/xg-7100-1u/reinstall-pfsense.html
            And maybe some type of spare/replacement. :-/

            There is also https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/troubleshooting/disk-lifetime.html#emmc

            Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
            When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
            Upvote 👍 helpful posts!

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              stormchaser5 @SteveITS
              last edited by Mar 27, 2023, 10:20 PM

              @steveits Thanks. It's been over year, since I was imersed in pfsense/netgate when I set this up. So I am going to have to sort through this. Thanks for your help. Working on these things in a loud, cramped data center is not fun.

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                SteveITS Galactic Empire @stormchaser5
                last edited by Mar 27, 2023, 10:34 PM

                @stormchaser5 oh gosh yeah. Bring earplugs. Or noise canceling headphones. As with airplanes! Makes a big difference.

                Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
                When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
                Upvote 👍 helpful posts!

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                  stormchaser5 @SteveITS
                  last edited by Mar 27, 2023, 11:01 PM

                  @steveits Do you happen to know what type of disk is in the XG-7100 I should bring as a replacement? I am going to go on the assumption the disk is bad and a reinstall is required. It looks like they don't sell a XG-7100 anymore. So 1:1 swap out is not possible, if it is not the disk.

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                    stormchaser5 @SteveITS
                    last edited by Mar 27, 2023, 11:22 PM

                    @steveits I found the docs.

                    https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/solutions/xg-7100-1u/m-2-sata-installation.html

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                      rcoleman-netgate Netgate @stormchaser5
                      last edited by Mar 28, 2023, 2:26 AM

                      @stormchaser5 m.2 mSATA. Not NVMe.

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                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                        last edited by Mar 28, 2023, 11:41 AM

                        The 7100 also has on-board eMMC, it may not have shipped with an m.2 SATA drive.
                        But if the eMMC has failed you can always fit an SSD and boot from that.

                        Steve

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                          stormchaser5 @stephenw10
                          last edited by Apr 17, 2023, 3:50 PM

                          @stephenw10 I purchased a Western Digital 500GB WD Red SA500 NAS SSD - SATA III 6 Gb/s, M.2 2280, - WDS500G1R0B and hope to get installed this week.

                          Do you know what the typical filename /extension is for the configuration backup is for pfsense? I am sure I made a backup of it. Just need to search for it on my NAS.

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                            FSC830
                            last edited by Apr 17, 2023, 4:06 PM

                            Typical filename looks like this: config-pfsense.mydomain.biz-20220222183909.xml, where pfsense.mydomain.biz is to replace with the pfSense name followed by FQDN.

                            Regards

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