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      pete35 @Cannondale
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      @Cannondale said in No DHCP on pfSense VLAN with Cisco Smart Switch:

      Plugged the test Linux workstation into switch port 20 (vlan20).

      Do you need another vlan ? Or is this just for investigation?
      You can configure another vlan with the same trick, if you have more interfaces on the pfsense.

      If you can, you may wipe out the whole configuration on the switch and reset it to an initial state. Configure it then only on the GUI. There are a lot of configuration options, maybe not shown on the cli. So if something is hidden, it may influence this crazy vlan issue.

      https://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en/us/td/docs/switches/lan/csbss/sf_sg250/quick_start/guide/en_US/78-100762-01A0.pdf

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        Cannondale @pete35
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        @pete35 said in No DHCP on pfSense VLAN with Cisco Smart Switch:

        Do you need another vlan ? Or is this just for investigation?

        Both. Ultimately need to confirm whether the switch is having an issue with tags. If not a config issue, I will replace it.

        @pete35 said in No DHCP on pfSense VLAN with Cisco Smart Switch:

        You can configure another vlan with the same trick, if you have more interfaces on the pfsense.

        Understood. I'm not a network expert but I recall that this is called segmentation. My quad port card in the pfSence server is full now. It appears that using additional NIC ports to segregate the LAN is a hardware approach as opposed to the vlan approach. My preference would be to use vlans unless a particular use case suggests that segmentation would work better.

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          Cannondale @pete35
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          @pete35 said in No DHCP on pfSense VLAN with Cisco Smart Switch:

          looks like it needs some more parameters on startup or needs some more priviledges (root?)
          check the "-c" parameter and maybe check all this here:
          https://adamtheautomator.com/wireshark-linux/

          Thanks for the link! I'll check it out.

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            Jarhead @Cannondale
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            @Cannondale I just skimmed this thread so I may have missed it but have you tried putting 2 ports in the same vlan and see if they can communicate?

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              Cannondale @Jarhead
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              @Jarhead said in No DHCP on pfSense VLAN with Cisco Smart Switch:

              have you tried putting 2 ports in the same vlan and see if they can communicate?

              Thanks for chiming in Jarhead. Yes. Two untagged ports can communicate on a vlan. One connected to pfSense and the other connected to a Linux workstation.

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                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Cannondale
                last edited by johnpoz

                @Cannondale Ok my sg250-08HP just got here.. clickly clicky running a vlan10..

                So either your switch is borked or you are doing something odd that we are missing... I didn't do anything to the switch other than boot it, give it an IP 192.168.200.9.. Plugged it into my igb4 interface that has 192.168.200.1/24

                Setup a vlan with 172.16.10.253/24 enabled dhcp..

                settingss.jpg

                switchf65809#term datadump                            
                switchf65809#sho run
                config-file-header
                switchf65809
                v2.5.8.15 / RCBS3.1_930_871_084
                CLI v1.0
                file SSD indicator encrypted
                @
                ssd-control-start
                ssd config
                ssd file passphrase control unrestricted
                no ssd file integrity control
                ssd-control-end cb0a3fdb1f3a1af4e4430033719968c0
                !
                !
                unit-type-control-start
                unit-type unit 1 network gi uplink none
                unit-type-control-end
                !
                vlan database
                vlan 10
                exit
                voice vlan state auto-triggered
                voice vlan oui-table add 0001e3 Siemens_AG_phone
                voice vlan oui-table add 00036b Cisco_phone
                voice vlan oui-table add 00096e Avaya
                voice vlan oui-table add 000fe2 H3C_Aolynk
                voice vlan oui-table add 0060b9 Philips_and_NEC_AG_phone
                voice vlan oui-table add 00d01e Pingtel_phone
                voice vlan oui-table add 00e075 Polycom/Veritel_phone
                voice vlan oui-table add 00e0bb 3Com_phone
                hostname switchf65809
                username user password encrypted $15$RNkCnVXJLcID4IKT$EDhJvPxPXJSsrsKvB8y0SMuwEaQn2SVckrVGzq6WfpOactj45CrUSHkc7nLpQAuAkdP72MS+2pTULQy7rIavcg== privilege 15
                ip ssh server
                sntp server 192.168.3.32 poll
                ip name-server  192.168.200.1
                !
                interface vlan 1
                 ip address 192.168.200.9 255.255.255.0
                 no ip address dhcp
                !
                interface GigabitEthernet1
                 switchport mode trunk
                 switchport trunk allowed vlan 1,10
                !
                interface GigabitEthernet8
                 switchport access vlan 10
                !
                exit
                macro auto controlled
                ip default-gateway 192.168.200.1
                switchf65809#
                

                Now its currently running 2.5.8.15, plug into port 8 get an IP on the 172.16.10 network, plug into port 7 get an IP of vlan 1, 192.168.200..

                Going to update it to latest version - brb

                edit: ok back on 2.5.9.16, all working just fine..

                edit2: here is the dhcp from client I plugged into port 8 on the sg250, you can see it got an IP from my vlan 10 I setup on pfsense

                May 27 17:09:49 	dhcpd 	98873 	DHCPACK on 172.16.10.11 to d0:37:45:0e:8c:be via igb4.10
                May 27 17:09:49 	dhcpd 	98873 	DHCPREQUEST for 172.16.10.11 (172.16.10.253) from d0:37:45:0e:8c:be via igb4.10
                May 27 17:09:49 	dhcpd 	98873 	DHCPOFFER on 172.16.10.11 to d0:37:45:0e:8c:be via igb4.10
                May 27 17:09:48 	dhcpd 	98873 	DHCPDISCOVER from d0:37:45:0e:8c:be via igb4.10 
                

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                  Cannondale @johnpoz
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                  @johnpoz

                  Sorry for the delay in responding. Just got back into town after traveling. Thanks for the additional information. Very helpful!
                  I have an SG300 that arrived yesterday and still in a box. Will spark it up today to see what I find and report back.

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                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Cannondale
                    last edited by johnpoz

                    @Cannondale one thing nice about the sg300 is shows pvid info ;)

                    Both in the gui, and from cli

                    That the gui lists P in the legend, but then doesn't show it, and the cli showing this confusing as hell

                    Port : gi8
                    Port Mode: 
                    Gvrp Status: disabled
                    Ingress Filtering: true
                    Acceptable Frame Type: admitAll
                    Ingress UnTagged VLAN ( NATIVE ): 1
                     
                    Port is member in: 
                     
                    Vlan               Name               Egress rule     Added by     
                    ---- -------------------------------- ----------- ---------------- 
                     10                 10                 Untagged          S         
                    

                    When I look at a interface with vlan on my sg300

                    Port : gi1
                    Port Mode: Access 
                    Gvrp Status: disabled
                    Ingress Filtering: true
                    Acceptable Frame Type: admitAll
                    Ingress UnTagged VLAN ( NATIVE ): 99
                     
                    Port is member in: 
                     
                    Vlan               Name               Egress rule     Added by     
                    ---- -------------------------------- ----------- ---------------- 
                     99                wan                 Untagged          S         
                    
                     
                    Forbidden VLANS: 
                    Vlan               Name               
                    ---- -------------------------------- 
                    
                    

                    That being said - I had no issues setting a interface to access in a vlan on the sg250, and it working as it should with the vlan tagged to pfsense via "trunk" port.. Even though the cli output is bonkers ;)

                    There is clearly room for improvement in the info they show in the gui and the cli on the 250.. Why is showing the ingress untagged vlan as 1, when clearly that could not be the case if the interface is access in vlan 10..

                    Notice on the 300, it shows the native same as the vlan used for egress as untagged.

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                      Cannondale @johnpoz
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                      @johnpoz Got the SG300 up and running. Firmware and boot code were quite old (fw 1.2.9.44 and bc 1.1.0.6).
                      Upgraded both to the latest releases (fw 1.4.11.5 and bc 1.3.5.06), which was a feat in it self! Too bad Cisco hasn’t upgraded the firmware in the last three years!

                      P in the legend, but then doesn't show it, and the cli showing this confusing as hell

                      I definitely see what you mean!

                      Created the following test vlans on the switch:
                      Note: igb1 is the Main Lan in pfSense

                      VLAN10 (Test1)
                      Switch port 23, Trunk mode, Tagged, connected to pfSense VLAN10 (igb2)
                      Switch port 24, Access mode, Untagged, connected to Linux workstation
                      Wide open firewall rule for VLAN10

                      Test results: DHCP works as expected and provides Linux workstation IP

                      VLAN20 (Test2)
                      Switch port 51, Trunk mode, Tagged, connected to pfSense igb1 (Main Lan)
                      Switch port 46, Access mode, Untagged, connected to Linux workstation
                      Wide open firewall rule for VLAN20

                      Test results: No DHCPREQUEST in pfSense DHCP log, no IP provided to Linux workstation

                      I must be missing something stupid simple?

                      sw pvm vl20.png

                      pfs int ass.png

                      pfs int vl20.png

                      pfs dhcp vl20.png

                      pfs fw vl20.png

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                        mvikman @Cannondale
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                        @Cannondale said in No DHCP on pfSense VLAN with Cisco Smart Switch:

                        Upgraded both to the latest releases (fw 1.4.11.5 and bc 1.3.5.06), which was a feat in it self! Too bad Cisco hasn’t upgraded the firmware in the last three years!

                        Well, It has been in End-of-Sale since October 2018, End of Software Maintenance was October 2019 and End of Support is October 2023.
                        https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/switches/small-business-300-series-managed-switches/eos-eol-notice-c51-740542.html


                        So the Main LAN still works from the igb1, but just not the VLAN using that same igb1?

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                        HPE 561T (X540-AT2), 2-port 10Gb RJ45
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                          Cannondale @mvikman
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                          @mvikman

                          Well, It has been in End-of-Sale since October 2018, End of Software Maintenance was October 2019 and End of Support is October 2023.

                          Interestingly, the SG250 has roughly the same End Dates and had a firmware date of 4/2023.

                          So the Main LAN still works from the igb1, but just not the VLAN using that same igb1?

                          Yes that is correct.

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                            mvikman @Cannondale
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                            @Cannondale Hmm... Compared to mine, the pfSense config looks to be ok to me.

                            pfSense Plus 24.11-RELEASE (amd64)
                            Dell Optiplex 7040 SFF
                            Core i5-6500, 8GB RAM, 2x 240GB SSD (ZFS Mirror)
                            HPE 561T (X540-AT2), 2-port 10Gb RJ45
                            HPE 562SFP+ (X710-DA2), 2-port 10Gb SFP+

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                              mvikman @johnpoz
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                              @johnpoz Looks like that the CBS-series (and probably also the SG250) only uses/shows the pvid when the port is set to General Mode...
                              I set GE5 into General Mode and it now shows 1P
                              b2690716-561f-4dd3-b503-df38c458e004-image.png

                              pfSense Plus 24.11-RELEASE (amd64)
                              Dell Optiplex 7040 SFF
                              Core i5-6500, 8GB RAM, 2x 240GB SSD (ZFS Mirror)
                              HPE 561T (X540-AT2), 2-port 10Gb RJ45
                              HPE 562SFP+ (X710-DA2), 2-port 10Gb SFP+

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                                Cannondale @mvikman
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                                @mvikman

                                Looks like that the CBS-series (and probably also the SG250) only uses/shows the pvid when the port is set to General Mode...
                                I set GE5 into General Mode and it now shows 1P

                                I saw the same thing with theSG250.

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                                  mvikman @Cannondale
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                                  @Cannondale

                                  If you put both VLAN10 and VLAN20 on the igb2, can you get both to work through the switches untagged ports?

                                  pfSense Plus 24.11-RELEASE (amd64)
                                  Dell Optiplex 7040 SFF
                                  Core i5-6500, 8GB RAM, 2x 240GB SSD (ZFS Mirror)
                                  HPE 561T (X540-AT2), 2-port 10Gb RJ45
                                  HPE 562SFP+ (X710-DA2), 2-port 10Gb SFP+

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                                    Cannondale @mvikman
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                                    @mvikman

                                    If you put both VLAN10 and VLAN20 on the igb2, can you get both to work through the switches untagged ports?

                                    Yes. This works as expected.

                                    pfs int ass2.png

                                    sw p23 24 46.png

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                                      mvikman
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                                      Ok, so something gets messed up when there is both tagged and untagged traffic to the port.

                                      I have all my LAN networks in pfSense as VLANS, so everything is tagged. I believe this is also the recommended method.

                                      pfSense Plus 24.11-RELEASE (amd64)
                                      Dell Optiplex 7040 SFF
                                      Core i5-6500, 8GB RAM, 2x 240GB SSD (ZFS Mirror)
                                      HPE 561T (X540-AT2), 2-port 10Gb RJ45
                                      HPE 562SFP+ (X710-DA2), 2-port 10Gb SFP+

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                                        Cannondale @mvikman
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                                        @mvikman Thanks for the additional information.

                                        I have all my LAN networks in pfSense as VLANS, so everything is tagged.

                                        To clarify, you have all of your vlans on switch port gi1, which is connected to your pfSense lan port?

                                        If yes, I should be able to disable my vlan10 (on igb2), which would leave only vlan20 on my igb1 (pfSense lan) and would match your config. Correct?
                                        Would be an easy test.

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                                          mvikman @Cannondale
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                                          @Cannondale Yes GE1 port is a trunk to pfSense

                                          My pfSense interfaces
                                          b45d9b5e-9b96-49c6-8a55-77c012c46fec-image.png

                                          pfSense Plus 24.11-RELEASE (amd64)
                                          Dell Optiplex 7040 SFF
                                          Core i5-6500, 8GB RAM, 2x 240GB SSD (ZFS Mirror)
                                          HPE 561T (X540-AT2), 2-port 10Gb RJ45
                                          HPE 562SFP+ (X710-DA2), 2-port 10Gb SFP+

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                                            Cannondale @mvikman
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                                            @mvikman Thanks for the confirmation.
                                            As a test, I disabled the pfSense VLAN10 interface on igb2.
                                            I also removed VLAN10 from port 23 on the switch.
                                            This left only VLAN20 on my igb1 (pfSense lan) interface.
                                            Unfortunately, the test failed. It didn't make a difference in getting an IP on VLAN20 from DHCP.

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