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      Cannondale @johnpoz
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      Something similar to what I have now would be great!

      Capacity (mpps): 74
      Switching Capacity (Gbps): 100
      PoE: 802.3at PoE+, 802.3af
      PoE Ports: 48
      PoE Power (Watts): 375

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        mvikman
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        Just for fun, as a comparison, here's the config from my CBS250 switch, looks almost identical in format/command wise as Cannondale's SG250
        Everything is working as it should, pfSense interface has only VLANS configured.

        home-sw2_running-config.txt

        pfSense Plus 24.11-RELEASE (amd64)
        Dell Optiplex 7040 SFF
        Core i5-6500, 8GB RAM, 2x 240GB SSD (ZFS Mirror)
        HPE 561T (X540-AT2), 2-port 10Gb RJ45
        HPE 562SFP+ (X710-DA2), 2-port 10Gb SFP+

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          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @mvikman
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          @mvikman Hey could you post the output of your show tech so we can see what it says the pvid is..

          say ports 4 and 5 that have vlan 20 and 2000 on them.

          Where his was showing..

          Ingress UnTagged VLAN ( NATIVE ): 1

          When the lan was suppose to be 10.

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            Cannondale @johnpoz
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            Fresh run of show text attached.

            Cannondale show tech-support 20230522.txt

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              Cannondale @mvikman
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              @mvikman said in No DHCP on pfSense VLAN with Cisco Smart Switch:

              Just for fun, as a comparison, here's the config from my CBS250 switch

              Thanks mvikman!

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                mvikman @johnpoz
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                @johnpoz I'll just put some of the relevant ports from the tech output

                gi1: trunk port to pfSense
                gi2: trunk port to Wifi Ap
                gi3: access port to main pc
                gi4: access port homeserver
                gi5: empty port (in "port park" vlan)

                ------------------ show interfaces switchport ------------------
                Added by: D-Default, S-Static, G-GVRP, R-Radius Assigned VLAN, T-Guest VLAN, V-Voice VLAN
                Port : gi1
                Port Mode: 
                Gvrp Status: disabled
                Ingress Filtering: true
                Acceptable Frame Type: admitAll
                Ingress UnTagged VLAN ( NATIVE ): 1
                 
                Port is member in: 
                 
                Vlan               Name               Egress rule     Added by     
                ---- -------------------------------- ----------- ---------------- 
                 10                MGMT                 Tagged           S         
                 20                LAN                  Tagged           S         
                 25               MEDIA                 Tagged           S         
                 30                WORK                 Tagged           S         
                 35               CAMERA                Tagged           S         
                 40                IOT                  Tagged           S         
                 50               GUEST                 Tagged           S         
                
                 
                Forbidden VLANS: 
                Vlan               Name               
                ---- -------------------------------- 
                
                 
                Classification rules: 
                Added by: D-Default, S-Static, G-GVRP, R-Radius Assigned VLAN, T-Guest VLAN, V-Voice VLAN
                Port : gi2
                Port Mode: 
                Gvrp Status: disabled
                Ingress Filtering: true
                Acceptable Frame Type: admitAll
                Ingress UnTagged VLAN ( NATIVE ): 1
                 
                Port is member in: 
                 
                Vlan               Name               Egress rule     Added by     
                ---- -------------------------------- ----------- ---------------- 
                 10                MGMT                 Tagged           S         
                 20                LAN                  Tagged           S         
                 25               MEDIA                 Tagged           S         
                 30                WORK                 Tagged           S         
                 35               CAMERA                Tagged           S         
                 40                IOT                  Tagged           S         
                 50               GUEST                 Tagged           S         
                
                 
                Forbidden VLANS: 
                Vlan               Name               
                ---- -------------------------------- 
                
                 
                Classification rules: 
                Added by: D-Default, S-Static, G-GVRP, R-Radius Assigned VLAN, T-Guest VLAN, V-Voice VLAN
                Port : gi3
                Port Mode: 
                Gvrp Status: disabled
                Ingress Filtering: true
                Acceptable Frame Type: admitAll
                Ingress UnTagged VLAN ( NATIVE ): 1
                 
                Port is member in: 
                 
                Vlan               Name               Egress rule     Added by     
                ---- -------------------------------- ----------- ---------------- 
                 20                LAN                 Untagged          S         
                
                 
                Forbidden VLANS: 
                Vlan               Name               
                ---- -------------------------------- 
                
                 
                Classification rules: 
                Added by: D-Default, S-Static, G-GVRP, R-Radius Assigned VLAN, T-Guest VLAN, V-Voice VLAN
                Port : gi4
                Port Mode: 
                Gvrp Status: disabled
                Ingress Filtering: true
                Acceptable Frame Type: admitAll
                Ingress UnTagged VLAN ( NATIVE ): 1
                 
                Port is member in: 
                 
                Vlan               Name               Egress rule     Added by     
                ---- -------------------------------- ----------- ---------------- 
                 20                LAN                 Untagged          S         
                
                 
                Forbidden VLANS: 
                Vlan               Name               
                ---- -------------------------------- 
                
                 
                Classification rules: 
                Added by: D-Default, S-Static, G-GVRP, R-Radius Assigned VLAN, T-Guest VLAN, V-Voice VLAN
                Port : gi5
                Port Mode: 
                Gvrp Status: disabled
                Ingress Filtering: true
                Acceptable Frame Type: admitAll
                Ingress UnTagged VLAN ( NATIVE ): 1
                 
                Port is member in: 
                 
                Vlan               Name               Egress rule     Added by     
                ---- -------------------------------- ----------- ---------------- 
                2000             PortPark              Untagged          S         
                
                 
                Forbidden VLANS: 
                Vlan               Name               
                ---- -------------------------------- 
                

                Here's "sh int switchport" from CLI on some of the above ports

                HOME-SW2#sh int switchport gi1
                Name: gi1
                Switchport: enable
                Administrative Mode: trunk
                Operational Mode: up
                Access Mode VLAN: 1
                Trunking Native Mode VLAN: 4000 (Inactive)
                Trunking VLANs: 10,20,25,30,35,40,50
                General PVID: 1
                General VLANs: none
                General Egress Tagged VLANs: none
                General Forbidden VLANs: none
                General Ingress Filtering: enabled
                General Acceptable Frame Type: all
                General GVRP status: disabled
                Customer Mode VLAN: none
                
                Classification rules:
                
                
                HOME-SW2#sh int switchport gi3
                Name: gi3
                Switchport: enable
                Administrative Mode: access
                Operational Mode: up
                Access Mode VLAN: 20
                Trunking Native Mode VLAN: 1
                Trunking VLANs: 1
                General PVID: 1
                General VLANs: none
                General Egress Tagged VLANs: none
                General Forbidden VLANs: none
                General Ingress Filtering: enabled
                General Acceptable Frame Type: all
                General GVRP status: disabled
                Customer Mode VLAN: none
                
                Classification rules:
                
                
                HOME-SW2#sh int switchport gi5
                Name: gi5
                Switchport: enable
                Administrative Mode: access
                Operational Mode: down
                Access Mode VLAN: 2000
                Trunking Native Mode VLAN: 1
                Trunking VLANs: 1
                General PVID: 1
                General VLANs: none
                General Egress Tagged VLANs: none
                General Forbidden VLANs: none
                General Ingress Filtering: enabled
                General Acceptable Frame Type: all
                General GVRP status: disabled
                Customer Mode VLAN: none
                
                Classification rules:
                
                
                HOME-SW2#
                

                pfSense Plus 24.11-RELEASE (amd64)
                Dell Optiplex 7040 SFF
                Core i5-6500, 8GB RAM, 2x 240GB SSD (ZFS Mirror)
                HPE 561T (X540-AT2), 2-port 10Gb RJ45
                HPE 562SFP+ (X710-DA2), 2-port 10Gb SFP+

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                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @mvikman
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                  @mvikman said in No DHCP on pfSense VLAN with Cisco Smart Switch:

                  ngress UnTagged VLAN ( NATIVE ): 1

                  Port is member in:

                  Vlan Name Egress rule Added by


                  2000 PortPark Untagged S

                  Well yours is showing borked as well..

                  How is that suppose to work if untagged traffic comes into that port onto vlan 1

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                    pete35 @johnpoz
                    last edited by

                    I would say this is pretty normal.

                    look at this sg350X :

                    trunk port with native vlan 2, works perfectly.

                    MUPSW02SG350X#sh int switchport gi1/0/1
                    S-VLAN Ethernet Type: 0x8100 (802.1q)
                    VLAN Mapping Tunnel L2 protocols Global CoS: 5
                    Name: gi1/0/1
                    Switchport: enable
                    Administrative Mode: trunk
                    Operational Mode: up
                    Access Mode VLAN: 1
                    Access Multicast TV VLAN: none
                    Trunking Native Mode VLAN: 2
                    Trunking VLANs: 1-2,10-11,14,21,111,113,120
                    3-9,12-13,15-20,22-110,112,114-119,121-4094 (Inactive)
                    General PVID: 1
                    General VLANs: none
                    General Egress Tagged VLANs: none
                    General Forbidden VLANs: none
                    General Ingress Filtering: enabled
                    General Acceptable Frame Type: all
                    General GVRP status: disabled

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                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @pete35
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                      @pete35 not talking about trunk port

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                        mvikman @johnpoz
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                        @johnpoz

                        Well, everything works even if it looks borked...

                        Hmm... looking at the CBS-series CLI guide, "switchport mode" has these parameters
                        • access—Specifies an untagged layer 2 VLAN port.
                        • trunk—Specifies a trunking layer 2 VLAN port.
                        • general—Specifies a full 802-1q-supported VLAN port.
                        • customer—Specifies that an edge port connected to customer equipment. Traffic received from this port
                        will be tunneled with the additional 802.1q VLAN tag (Q-in-Q VLAN tunneling).

                        Also seems that those Ingress VLAN and PVID values are only used when the port is in General mode

                        pfSense Plus 24.11-RELEASE (amd64)
                        Dell Optiplex 7040 SFF
                        Core i5-6500, 8GB RAM, 2x 240GB SSD (ZFS Mirror)
                        HPE 561T (X540-AT2), 2-port 10Gb RJ45
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                          pete35 @mvikman
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                          hmmm lets asume that the switch is working properly.

                          if we set the workstation manually to the desired ip address/mask and gateway, there
                          should be a ping answer from the gateway on the pfsense.
                          just an idea to check this out.

                          next : change the workstation port to lets say port 23 and try to set the vlan there

                          and maybe : reboot pfsense and change the cables

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                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @pete35
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                            @pete35 all of that has already been done. Sniff on port going to pfsense no vlan tags - which has nothing to do with pfense

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                              pete35 @johnpoz
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                              @johnpoz
                              we are using a lot of these switches and i never saw such problems. There are other problems with this switches but not within those basic vlan stuff. As these switches have a lifetime warranty from cisco, maybe a return and exchange will solve this issue. Otherwise im out of ideas what is wrong here.

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                                Cannondale @pete35
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                                I plugged in a Linux workstation into switch port 20, which was a normal lan port.
                                Got an IP from pfSense as expected.
                                Configured switch port 20 as a vlan using the cli. Note: port 20 was not previously configured as a vlan.

                                Output below of:
                                show vlan
                                sho run int
                                show interfaces switchport

                                Note: Switch port 1 is the pfSense Trunk port.

                                Roth-SG250-50P-1(config-if)#do show vlan
                                Created by: D-Default, S-Static, G-GVRP, R-Radius Assigned VLAN, V-Voice VLAN
                                
                                Vlan       Name           Tagged Ports      UnTagged Ports      Created by    
                                ---- ----------------- ------------------ ------------------ ---------------- 
                                 1           1                            gi2-19,gi21-23,           DV        
                                                                          gi25-50,Po1-4                       
                                 10      testvl10             gi1                gi24               S         
                                 20      testvl20             gi1                gi20               S         
                                
                                
                                Roth-SG250-50P-1#sho run int gi1
                                interface GigabitEthernet1
                                 switchport mode trunk
                                 switchport access vlan 10
                                 switchport trunk allowed vlan 10,20
                                !
                                
                                Roth-SG250-50P-1#sho run int gi20
                                interface GigabitEthernet20
                                 switchport access vlan 20
                                !
                                
                                
                                Roth-SG250-50P-1(config-if)#do show interfaces switchport ge1
                                Name: gi1
                                Switchport: enable
                                Administrative Mode: trunk
                                Operational Mode: up
                                Access Mode VLAN: 10
                                Trunking Native Mode VLAN: 1 (Inactive)
                                Trunking VLANs: 10,20
                                General PVID: 1
                                General VLANs: none
                                General Egress Tagged VLANs: none
                                General Forbidden VLANs: none
                                General Ingress Filtering: enabled
                                General Acceptable Frame Type: all
                                General GVRP status: disabled
                                Customer Mode VLAN: none
                                
                                
                                Roth-SG250-50P-1(config-if)#do show interfaces switchport ge20
                                Name: gi20
                                Switchport: enable
                                Administrative Mode: access
                                Operational Mode: down
                                Access Mode VLAN: 20
                                Trunking Native Mode VLAN: 1
                                Trunking VLANs: 1,10,20
                                                        2-9,11-19,21-4094 (Inactive)
                                General PVID: 1
                                General VLANs: none
                                General Egress Tagged VLANs: none
                                General Forbidden VLANs: none
                                General Ingress Filtering: enabled
                                General Acceptable Frame Type: all
                                General GVRP status: disabled
                                Customer Mode VLAN: none
                                
                                
                                Roth-SG250-50P-1(config-if)#do show interfaces switchport ge24
                                Name: gi24
                                Switchport: enable
                                Administrative Mode: access
                                Operational Mode: up
                                Access Mode VLAN: 10
                                Trunking Native Mode VLAN: 1
                                Trunking VLANs: 1,10,20
                                                        2-9,11-19,21-4094 (Inactive)
                                General PVID: 1
                                General VLANs: none
                                General Egress Tagged VLANs: none
                                General Forbidden VLANs: none
                                General Ingress Filtering: enabled
                                General Acceptable Frame Type: all
                                General GVRP status: disabled
                                Customer Mode VLAN: none
                                
                                

                                I ran tcpdump -i igb1 -e on the pfSense server while plugging in the Linux workstation into port 20.
                                Searched the sniffer output for "vlan" and did not find that string.

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                                  pete35 @Cannondale
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                                  @cannondale

                                  Try to configure another port to vlan 10 from/with the GUI. Save the config and reboot the switch and test afterwards. I just checked one of my switches and it works straightforward.

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                                    Cannondale @pete35
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                                    @pete35 said in No DHCP on pfSense VLAN with Cisco Smart Switch:

                                    Try to configure another port to vlan 10 from/with the GUI. Save the config and reboot the switch and test afterwards.

                                    Thanks for the suggestion pete35!
                                    Configured switch port 23 to be a member of vlan 10 via GUI.
                                    copied running-config to startup-config

                                    Show output below.

                                    Roth-SG250-50P-1#show vlan
                                    Created by: D-Default, S-Static, G-GVRP, R-Radius Assigned VLAN, V-Voice VLAN
                                    
                                    Vlan       Name           Tagged Ports      UnTagged Ports      Created by    
                                    ---- ----------------- ------------------ ------------------ ---------------- 
                                     1           1                            gi2-19,gi21-22,           DV        
                                                                              gi25-50,Po1-4                       
                                     10      testvl10             gi1              gi23-24              S         
                                     20      testvl20             gi1                gi20               S         
                                    
                                    Roth-SG250-50P-1#sho run int gi1
                                    interface GigabitEthernet1
                                     switchport mode trunk
                                     switchport access vlan 10
                                     switchport trunk allowed vlan 10,20
                                    !
                                    Roth-SG250-50P-1#sho run int gi23
                                    interface GigabitEthernet23
                                     switchport access vlan 10
                                    

                                    Ran tcpdump -i igb1 -e on the pfSense box while plugging in the Linux workstation into port 23. Searched the sniffer output for "vlan" and did not find that string.

                                    Note: was not able to bounce the switch before the test as several users are using the system.
                                    Can try that later today if it would help.

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                                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Cannondale
                                      last edited by johnpoz

                                      @cannondale said in No DHCP on pfSense VLAN with Cisco Smart Switch:

                                      was not able to bounce the switch before

                                      There is no reason you should have to bounce the switch, the only time you should ever have to reboot a switch is if you are updating its firmware.

                                      Well @mvikman shows his output as showing that vlan 1 as native for ingress and says its working.. Which isn't what the output would express if you ask me.

                                      But yours isn't

                                      My sg300 correctly shows that native ingress on whatever access vlan I put on a port.. See my example output where I change the port 28 to different vlan and then back, etc..

                                      Maybe the sg250 is just crap when it comes to what the cli shows - but then why isnt this working?

                                      For a last hope go to general mode and specifically set the native vlan and the vlan your on..

                                      But sorry if your not seeing tagged coming into pfsense where you have a vlan setup - its never going to work.. That is for sure..

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                                        Cannondale @johnpoz
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                                        johnpoz, thanks for continuing to hang in there!
                                        The Interface Settings page in the GUI only shows two options for a port. Access and Trunk.

                                        Screenshot from 2023-05-23 19-01-04.png

                                        But the Port VLAN Membership page in the GUI shows Access, Trunk, General and Customer.

                                        Screenshot from 2023-05-23 19-05-42.png

                                        My question is can I change the port access mode to General in the cli if the General option in not available in the GUI? If so would it appear as General on the Port VLAN Membership page?

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                                          Cannondale
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                                          Update:

                                          Tried configuring port 20 (VLAN20) via cli to general mode.

                                          Roth-SG250-50P-1(config)#do sho run int ge20
                                          interface GigabitEthernet20
                                           switchport mode general
                                           switchport general allowed vlan add 20 untagged
                                           switchport access vlan 20
                                           switchport general pvid 20
                                          !
                                          
                                          Roth-SG250-50P-1(config-if)#do sho run int ge1
                                          interface GigabitEthernet1
                                           switchport mode trunk
                                           switchport trunk allowed vlan 10,20
                                          !
                                          

                                          Looked at the GUI Port VLAN Membership page, which looked ok to me.
                                          Couldn't upload the screenshot here do to error:parse-error.
                                          Here is the text version:

                                          F - Forbidden member	T - Tagged member	U - Untagged member	I - Inactive VLAN	P - PVID
                                          Interface	Mode	Administrative VLANs	Operational VLANs
                                          GE1	        Trunk	1UI, 10T, 20T	                10T, 20T	
                                          GE20	        General	20U, 20P	                20U
                                          

                                          Ran tcpdump -i igb1 -e on the pfSense box while plugging in the Linux workstation into port 20. Searched the sniffer output for "vlan" and did not find that string.

                                          OMG!

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                                            mvikman
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                                            Just a thought... the CBS-series GUI has a dropdown menu on the top right that switches between Basic and Advanced views, the Basic hides some stuff on the menus. Does the SG250 have that?

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                                            pfSense Plus 24.11-RELEASE (amd64)
                                            Dell Optiplex 7040 SFF
                                            Core i5-6500, 8GB RAM, 2x 240GB SSD (ZFS Mirror)
                                            HPE 561T (X540-AT2), 2-port 10Gb RJ45
                                            HPE 562SFP+ (X710-DA2), 2-port 10Gb SFP+

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