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    KEA DHCP missing "Register DHCP leases in DNS Resolver..."

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    • johnpozJ
      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @pvk1
      last edited by

      @pvk1 yeah I think there is/was an issue with kea if you had fqdn for ntp before, that it would just not run.

      An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools
      If you get confused: Listen to the Music Play
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      • GertjanG
        Gertjan @johnpoz
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        @johnpoz said in KEA DHCP missing "Register DHCP leases in DNS Resolver...":

        that it would just not run.

        Exact.
        If I do this :

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        and then I save :

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        I see a big red error message :

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        telling me that a host name is a no go.

        Still, the tooltip told me :

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        😊

        No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
        Edit : and where are the logs ??

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        • johnpozJ
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Gertjan
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          @Gertjan yeah this is the confusing part for some users

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          Maybe that should of never been an option, since dhcp can never use it - but pfsense was doing some magic in the background to convert the fqdn you put in to an IP.. Which guess is ok if the ntp server only has 1 IP, etc.. But with a pool address which is very dynamic and pool membership is very fluid - since its really just users that add their server to the pool, these change all the time..

          So in hindsight (which is always 20/20) allowing for fqdn prob not the best choice.

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            clawsonn @Slowmotion 0
            last edited by clawsonn

            @Slowmotion-0 said in KEA DHCP missing "Register DHCP leases in DNS Resolver...":

            As of this moment (Feb-2024), besides the static IP mapping approach, is there any other trick we can do to inject the KEA DHCP leases into DNS Resolver?

            What is the KEA trick with static IP mapping approach?
            I have a machine with 2.7.2 running KEA and dns resolver does not resolve any hostnames that are acquired from dhcp or hostnames that are DHCP static reservation ip mapped.

            I read most the posts and appears that 24.11 PLUS has returned with this feature but my machine is CE not PLUS https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/releases/24-11.html "This release includes support for DNS Registration of DHCP client hostnames from the Kea DHCP daemon to the Unbound DNS Resolver"

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            • johnpozJ
              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @clawsonn
              last edited by

              @clawsonn just move back to isc, until such time that kea has all the features you want there is no reason to move to it.

              Yes isc is end of life, doesn't mean it stopped working or that there are any sort of serious security risks with running it.

              If your running CE version, wait til 2.8 comes out - hopefully kea will have the features you want then.

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              • GertjanG
                Gertjan @clawsonn
                last edited by Gertjan

                @clawsonn said in KEA DHCP missing "Register DHCP leases in DNS Resolver...":

                I have a machine with 2.7.2 running KEA and dns resolver does not resolve any hostnames that are acquired from dhcp

                Then this option would do the trick :
                Under Services > DNS Resolver > General Settings, there is an option called "DHCP registration" (something like that, I don't have that anymore since I use Kea on 24.11)
                If these host names are not valid ... call Houston. Some device don't even communicate a host name.
                And worse : every time a lease is received, the pfSense DNS (resolver) gets restarted.

                @clawsonn said in KEA DHCP missing "Register DHCP leases in DNS Resolver...":

                or hostnames that are DHCP static reservation ip mapped

                That's the option right after.
                That option always worked for me, I've been using 2.7.2 for a while.
                And you can check they are included in the local DNS cache : see this file : /etc/hosts
                If this doesn't work for you : call Houston again : you have a DNS problem.

                @clawsonn said in KEA DHCP missing "Register DHCP leases in DNS Resolver...":

                I read most the posts and appears that 24.11 PLUS has returned with this feature but my machine is CE not PLUS

                Correct. That's the new way of doing things.
                With 24.11 I see these lines in the DHCP logs :

                2024-12-10 08:05:49.292692+01:00 	kea2unbound 	72549 	Write include: /var/unbound/leases/leases4.conf (f8fa5d9f54dbf4eb328a3018566546c4e14278931f34a53625dc5d0cd16da077)
                2024-12-10 08:05:49.230901+01:00 	kea2unbound 	72549 	Add record: "iphone-xii-gertjan.bhf.tld. 2400 IN A 192.168.1.35"
                

                => as soon as my phone connects to the LAN network, it gets a DHCPv4 lease.
                The lease contains a valid host name, and the host name and IPv4 is communicated to the resolver (unbound).
                I'm testing this now for a week or so. Its looking very good.
                Btw : same story for the IPv6 and the reverse.

                Don't worry, 2.8.x show up. Netgate wanted this new system to be tested first by the ones who are paying for it (Plus users) before its releases the same functionality into the 'free' version 😊

                No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                  kuchenmann
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                  Same shit in year 2025.
                  Why are users forced to use such crap?

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                    webdawg
                    last edited by webdawg

                    Sorry to necrobump, but I am a long term user of pfSense. I really feel strongly that this thread has been cr*apped on. I have implemented it in different environments from gov to retail business to lab to AWS.

                    I took a break for a bit, and do not work for a company that uses it, and upgraded my lab. I read this entire thread:

                    • I cannot understand how anyone can ever think that routers do not resolve dns names of dhcp hosts - I am struggling to remember one that ever did not - we are talking d-link 2000 era 56k dial up
                      **You did not study your users very well here

                    *When I switched over to to KEA it started recording my unique identifier and broke all of my preconfigured static dhcp entries

                    *I don't know. I don't read release notes sometimes. When the kids are crying, and the wife is beating down my door, and I need to upgrade a lab router, I just hope it boots.
                    **The same goes for budget strapped IT people

                    I get it, but you have this GIANT warning above the DHCP server like it is just switch and go. Possibly put release notes here?:
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                    I interviewed with your company, and I cannot tell you how many times I have seen stuff like this, and wish I was there. There are industry leading features that could grant you a new market segment. You are breaking things in one market segment, and then being rude to your users when they jump on your forums.

                    This is one of the best products I have used in my life, and when I did work for other companies, we purchased your hardware, and we paid for support. You have one of the best teams I have worked with.

                    It is hard to balance this stuff, I get it. I can't imagine the feature requests you have on your plate. I can tell you something even stranger: After I switched to KEA, resolving DHCP requests worked until I edited Host and Domain overrides on my server. So this stuff seems super possible and even easy, but some developer or requirements gathering said "not needed" and when users post here you tell them deal with it?

                    I hope your sprints get this feedback information. I still love pfsense and it has been a long journey.

                    ps
                    It could have also been the fact that I added a host alias that resolves via DNS - but I will never know.

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                      uneventfullogs @webdawg
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                      @webdawg yeah, the effort needed to sign up for the forum really underscores 1) how much I like pfsense's hardware and WANT this to work and 2) how messed up and annoying this is and 3) that I have some small, small sliver of hope that netgate wises up to this and is more careful in the future.

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                      • tinfoilmattT
                        tinfoilmatt @webdawg
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                        @webdawg said in KEA DHCP missing "Register DHCP leases in DNS Resolver...":

                        Sorry to necrobump, but I am a long term user of pfSense. I really feel strongly that this thread has been cr*apped on.
                        [ . . . ]
                        You are breaking things in one market segment, and then being rude to your users when they jump on your forums.

                        Your post seems to be directed at Netgate. But I count only two official Netgate replies (from the same poster) up until this point—and both are empathetic and respectful.

                        As one of the 'crappers' on the thread, I feel obligated to point out that the rest of us here are merely users like you, who may simply disagree with some of the points you and others are making.

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