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    VPN gateway and pfSense router

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      Antibiotic
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      How better to arrange:

      1. VPN gateway + pfSense router + Home network
      2. pfSense router + VPN gateway + Home network

      pfSense router planning to use Traffic shapping, pfBlocker-NG and Suricata packages,

      pfSense plus 24.11 on Topton mini PC
      CPU: Intel N100
      NIC: Intel i-226v 4 pcs
      RAM : 16 GB DDR5
      Disk: 128 GB NVMe
      Brgds, Archi

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        tinfoilmatt @Antibiotic
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        @Antibiotic even better: pfSense can act as a VPN server or client.

        assuming there's a specific need for this 'VPN gateway' device, however, that will likely dictate the answer to your question.

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          Antibiotic @tinfoilmatt
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          @cyberconsultants But in this way, how better? in doubt if pfSense afront VPN gateway will this 3 packages working correctly as assume traffic will reach pfSense encrypted already? or misunderstanding

          pfSense plus 24.11 on Topton mini PC
          CPU: Intel N100
          NIC: Intel i-226v 4 pcs
          RAM : 16 GB DDR5
          Disk: 128 GB NVMe
          Brgds, Archi

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            tinfoilmatt @Antibiotic
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            @Antibiotic inbound/return VPN traffic will be received on the WAN interface, passed to OpenVPN for decryption, and then passed back to pfSense where it will be 'processed' and routed accordingly.

            if said decrypted traffic is subject to any shaping policy or offends any IDS/IPS, IP filtering, or DNS blocking, configured action will be taken before the packets are able to egress the WAN interface in the direction of the LAN.

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              Antibiotic @tinfoilmatt
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              @cyberconsultants So option one is prefer? Is it correct?

              pfSense plus 24.11 on Topton mini PC
              CPU: Intel N100
              NIC: Intel i-226v 4 pcs
              RAM : 16 GB DDR5
              Disk: 128 GB NVMe
              Brgds, Archi

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                tinfoilmatt @Antibiotic
                last edited by

                @Antibiotic if you absolutely need to use this other VPN device but still want to make use of pfSense's security services... then yes, #1 is the best option.

                you're correct that if you put the VPN device before pfSense (#2), then pfSense/Suricata/pfBlocker/etc. would have no way to inspect the encrypted VPN traffic passing through it.

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                  Antibiotic @tinfoilmatt
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                  @cyberconsultants Finally))) Thank's

                  pfSense plus 24.11 on Topton mini PC
                  CPU: Intel N100
                  NIC: Intel i-226v 4 pcs
                  RAM : 16 GB DDR5
                  Disk: 128 GB NVMe
                  Brgds, Archi

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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by

                    But, yes, why use two devices for that?

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                      Antibiotic @stephenw10
                      last edited by

                      @stephenw10 I'm bought GLInet 2500A small VPN gateway before and don't have any ideas, how better to use with pfSense)))

                      pfSense plus 24.11 on Topton mini PC
                      CPU: Intel N100
                      NIC: Intel i-226v 4 pcs
                      RAM : 16 GB DDR5
                      Disk: 128 GB NVMe
                      Brgds, Archi

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                        Well you don't have to use it at all. 😉

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                          Antibiotic @stephenw10
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                          @stephenw10 Could be but filling yourself that a wasted money, better use it)))

                          pfSense plus 24.11 on Topton mini PC
                          CPU: Intel N100
                          NIC: Intel i-226v 4 pcs
                          RAM : 16 GB DDR5
                          Disk: 128 GB NVMe
                          Brgds, Archi

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                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                            Ha! It's running OpenWRT? You could probably run pihole on it or something similar.

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                              Antibiotic @stephenw10
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                              @stephenw10 Yea OpenWRT but 21.02 snapshot officially, dont know why not a last release. You think its possible running pihole on him?

                              pfSense plus 24.11 on Topton mini PC
                              CPU: Intel N100
                              NIC: Intel i-226v 4 pcs
                              RAM : 16 GB DDR5
                              Disk: 128 GB NVMe
                              Brgds, Archi

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                                Antibiotic @Antibiotic
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                                @Antibiotic This box officially support AdguardHome in build.

                                pfSense plus 24.11 on Topton mini PC
                                CPU: Intel N100
                                NIC: Intel i-226v 4 pcs
                                RAM : 16 GB DDR5
                                Disk: 128 GB NVMe
                                Brgds, Archi

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                                • stephenw10S
                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                  I don't know about pihole specifically by adguard does much the same thing and is in the OpenWRT software repo.

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