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    High Avail secondary node IPs - How to find it

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      viragomann @michmoor
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      @michmoor
      Yes, presumed you have configured the VTI interface on the backup node as well.

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        michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @viragomann
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        @viragomann yep. Same interface assignment

        Firewall: NetGate,Palo Alto-VM,Juniper SRX
        Routing: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
        Switching: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
        Wireless: Unifi, Aruba IAP
        JNCIP,CCNP Enterprise

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          michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @michmoor
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          Im really not understanding why my VTI interfaces are not syncing up.
          The interface assignments are the exact same

          Master
          49472093-4e44-4359-9ff3-c9c625924dce-image.png

          Backup
          6e4bb5ba-48eb-4626-8525-7cffd66eed28-image.png

          de6128e4-e354-463c-8a36-6e6ca7b4fbc6-image.png

          Yet the only interface with firewall rules not syncing is the VTI. Very strange behavior.

          Firewall: NetGate,Palo Alto-VM,Juniper SRX
          Routing: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
          Switching: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
          Wireless: Unifi, Aruba IAP
          JNCIP,CCNP Enterprise

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          • stephenw10S
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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            Is it ipsec1 on the primary too or ipsec0?

            Yeah sync can work between any interfaces but it's much better to use a dedicated sync interface if you can.

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              michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @stephenw10
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              @stephenw10 ipsec1 on both. I shared pictures above

              Firewall: NetGate,Palo Alto-VM,Juniper SRX
              Routing: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
              Switching: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
              Wireless: Unifi, Aruba IAP
              JNCIP,CCNP Enterprise

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                Is the IPSec filter option set to VTI mode on both nodes?

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                  michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @stephenw10
                  last edited by

                  @stephenw10 Yep it sure is.

                  Firewall: NetGate,Palo Alto-VM,Juniper SRX
                  Routing: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                  Switching: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                  Wireless: Unifi, Aruba IAP
                  JNCIP,CCNP Enterprise

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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by

                    Hmm, well it's possible to set individual rules to not sync. That might have been done for some reason.

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                      michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @stephenw10
                      last edited by

                      @stephenw10

                      I thought the same as well but the "No XMLRPC Sync" checkbox is unchecked.

                      Logs show no errors. I even tried re-creating the interface and still no luck

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                      Firewall: NetGate,Palo Alto-VM,Juniper SRX
                      Routing: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                      Switching: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                      Wireless: Unifi, Aruba IAP
                      JNCIP,CCNP Enterprise

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                        last edited by

                        No error on the Secondary either?

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                          michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @stephenw10
                          last edited by michmoor

                          @stephenw10

                          Figured it out.
                          The primary has OPT3 - IPsec1
                          The secondary has OPT4 - IPsec1

                          I was just looking at the IPsec1 identifier but clearly the OPT has to match. So i deleted the interface on the secondary and made sure that when it got recreated the OPT identifier matched. Once that's done Rules synced across.

                          The last thing I'm dealing with now is IPsec failover is very slow. An outage of over 3-4 minutes. CARP WAN address is being used but i do notice in my logs that the firewall keeps trying to initiate a connection using the WAN address and not the WAN CARP address. Is this normal?

                          Eventually, the firewalls speak and all is well.

                          Firewall: NetGate,Palo Alto-VM,Juniper SRX
                          Routing: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                          Switching: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                          Wireless: Unifi, Aruba IAP
                          JNCIP,CCNP Enterprise

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                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                            last edited by

                            What are they connected to?

                            If the IPSec is on the CARP VIP at this end the secondary should start trying to connect as soon as it fails over but the remote side will have to time-out before starts trying.

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                              michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @stephenw10
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                              @stephenw10 Remote side is me. How do i speed up the cutover? Is there a way?

                              Firewall: NetGate,Palo Alto-VM,Juniper SRX
                              Routing: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                              Switching: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                              Wireless: Unifi, Aruba IAP
                              JNCIP,CCNP Enterprise

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                              • stephenw10S
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                last edited by

                                So remote is a mobile IPSec client?

                                You can change the dpd settings for the client so it times out faster.

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                                  michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @stephenw10
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                                  @stephenw10 This is an IPsec site2site

                                  Firewall: NetGate,Palo Alto-VM,Juniper SRX
                                  Routing: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                                  Switching: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                                  Wireless: Unifi, Aruba IAP
                                  JNCIP,CCNP Enterprise

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                                  • stephenw10S
                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                    last edited by

                                    Ok well if the other side is pfSense the default values are 10s and 5 failure so you can change that to, say, 5s and 3 failures.

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                                      michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @stephenw10
                                      last edited by michmoor

                                      @stephenw10
                                      Yep we are dealing with two pfSense boxes.
                                      I am changing the value on both sides now and testing. Will let you know.

                                      So something like this?

                                      e1176c48-c8fa-4261-8007-fffa63092db9-image.png

                                      Firewall: NetGate,Palo Alto-VM,Juniper SRX
                                      Routing: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                                      Switching: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                                      Wireless: Unifi, Aruba IAP
                                      JNCIP,CCNP Enterprise

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                                        michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @michmoor
                                        last edited by michmoor

                                        @stephenw10 no deal.

                                        It recovers...but slow.

                                        It might make sense to create another IPsec tunnel to the Backup firewall.
                                        Im thinking i can handle routing by placing both Master and Backup in a Gateway group and set Master as Tier 1 and Backup as Tier 2

                                        edit: i actually don't know how that will work..
                                        Any changes on the Backup will get overwritten...hmmm

                                        Firewall: NetGate,Palo Alto-VM,Juniper SRX
                                        Routing: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                                        Switching: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                                        Wireless: Unifi, Aruba IAP
                                        JNCIP,CCNP Enterprise

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                                        • stephenw10S
                                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                          last edited by

                                          Check the logs at both ends and see what's happening. Which end is delaying the failover.

                                          How long does it actually take?

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                                            michmoor LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @stephenw10
                                            last edited by michmoor

                                            @stephenw10
                                            I initiated a failover on primary and on the secondary i went ahead and tried to establish a tunnel via CLI.

                                            This is the output. The output is from the Backup pfsense trying to initiate a IKE P1 to my home pfsense

                                             sudo swanctl --initiate --ike con1
                                            [IKE] retransmit 1 of request with message ID 0
                                            [NET] sending packet: from 192.168.35.6[500] to 104.13.92.x[500] (464 bytes)
                                            [IKE] retransmit 2 of request with message ID 0
                                            [NET] sending packet: from 192.168.35.6[500] to 104.13.92.x[500] (464 bytes)
                                            [IKE] retransmit 3 of request with message ID 0
                                            [NET] sending packet: from 192.168.35.6[500] to 104.13.92.x[500] (464 bytes)
                                            [IKE] retransmit 4 of request with message ID 0
                                            [NET] sending packet: from 192.168.35.6[500] to 104.13.92.x[500] (464 bytes)
                                            [IKE] retransmit 5 of request with message ID 0
                                            [NET] sending packet: from 192.168.35.6[500] to 104.13.92.x[500] (464 bytes)
                                            [IKE] giving up after 5 retransmits
                                            [IKE] establishing IKE_SA failed, peer not responding
                                            initiate failed: establishing IKE_SA 'con1' failed
                                            
                                            

                                            Now just to let you know firewall at the location I'm managing is sitting behind a Cisco router that is performing NAT
                                            192.168.35.6 is the NAT for the WAN VIP so the pfsense has a RFC1918 WAN address but the Cisco is doing the NAT.
                                            For what its worth i do see translations on the Cisco so that's operating correctly.

                                            Eventually the tunnel will restablish.

                                            Firewall: NetGate,Palo Alto-VM,Juniper SRX
                                            Routing: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                                            Switching: Juniper, Arista, Cisco
                                            Wireless: Unifi, Aruba IAP
                                            JNCIP,CCNP Enterprise

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