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    Why is getting the installer file so complicated?

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Problems Installing or Upgrading pfSense Software
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    • M
      mi8088
      last edited by

      1. Nowadays, getting the installer requires registration. First annoyance..
      2. I put the installer in my cart, then try to login to the shop (I am a paying customer afterall, but want the installer for testing some things on a VM..)
      3. Middle finger number one from Netgate:
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      4. Middle finger number two: this captcha, how unclear can you get?
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      5. Middle finger number three: twice, seriously?
      6. Middle finger number four. Ok, what *** object am I supposed to click on?:
        c7b11285-521d-4a9c-bc9a-e03a06aec09c-image.png
      7. Middle finger number five: Go to another browser. That tells me my password is wrong.
      8. Middle finger number six: Try to get a "reset password" link. No email sent.
      9. Fine, register a new account, same email address. That somehow works. But captcha still doesn't let me in on FF, only Chromium.. Maybe telling me that I don't have an account anymore, and not "Your answer was wrong"?
      10. Why TF does Netgate want to call me about my pfSense installer "purchase"?
        Since the system is so complicated, I can't get an installer.. why?? Netgate, have you tested this stuff? Do you not like your customers?
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      • AndyRHA
        AndyRH
        last edited by

        Try reading this thread.

        https://forum.netgate.com/topic/189649/mandatory-internet-connection-on-new-pfsense-installer?_=1724415448749

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        7100-1u

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          mi8088
          last edited by

          Thanks - that link in that thread helps.

          Still a riddle why the website is so utterly annoying and makes the process more difficult than necessary!

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            mvikman
            last edited by

            I had no problems getting the installer file from the webshop, got in on first try, no captchas.
            Probably something in your browser settings etc. causes it to trigger, from what I understand automated captchas can be triggered by many things for example adblockers, suspicious or lack of browser history, certain ip addresses, multiple fast page reloads etc.

            pfSense Plus 24.11-RELEASE (amd64)
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            Core i5-6500, 8GB RAM, 2x 240GB SSD (ZFS Mirror)
            HPE 561T (X540-AT2), 2-port 10Gb RJ45
            HPE 562SFP+ (X710-DA2), 2-port 10Gb SFP+

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              SteveITS Galactic Empire @mi8088
              last edited by

              @mi8088 I’m just gonna say #6 is kinda funny, tbh. “I am human”…it’s not “LOL no you’re not,” it’s that you answered the single checkbox incorrectly and they want you to fix it.

              Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
              When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
              Upvote 👍 helpful posts!

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                mi8088 @SteveITS
                last edited by mi8088

                @SteveITS The images do it injustice..

                But please explain to me how I got this one wrong:

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                I try to check the box..

                Question 1:

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                Question 2:

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                OK, I seem to be done:

                9994110f-147b-4495-8b5f-62a6d909f4f3-Screenshot from 2024-08-25 15-53-59.png

                After pressing submit:

                ca5028f2-385f-4c1a-ad63-54bcbd0d9518-Screenshot from 2024-08-25 15-54-04.png

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                • johnpozJ
                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @mi8088
                  last edited by johnpoz

                  @mi8088 I was running into an issue with recaptcha awhile ago when first updated to firefox 129.. Not this site but another one, just kept asking and asking and asking and when finally got to verify it would say your answer is wrong.

                  I just used chrome to get around the problem.. My understanding atleast with with recaptcha this is handled by google, if you google for recaptcha and firefox you will find it having issues going back for quite some time every now and then, etc.

                  This seems to have worked itself out, since haven't see the problem as of late..

                  So your issue might be related to that, and not really a netgate/pfsense sort of issue.

                  edit: btw I just downloaded the installer and didn't see one captcha anything.

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                  If you get confused: Listen to the Music Play
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                    SteveITS Galactic Empire @mi8088
                    last edited by

                    @mi8088 said in Why is getting the installer file so complicated?:

                    @SteveITS The images do it injustice..

                    But please explain to me how I got this one wrong:

                    When you get a chance, you should probably watch Blade Runner a few times.

                    Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
                    When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
                    Upvote 👍 helpful posts!

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                      Waqar.UK @SteveITS
                      last edited by

                      @SteveITS

                      I just tried it, and I cannot download the latest version as well.

                      It say go to check out and asks to login to my Netgate web forum. I cannot go further.

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                        last edited by

                        You have a screenshot of that? I can ask our guys to look at it.

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                        • johnpozJ
                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Waqar.UK
                          last edited by

                          @Waqar-UK the account wouldn't be your forum account, it would be the account you created for the netgate store

                          https://shop.netgate.com

                          See here is my logged into the store, and showing the net installer I download the other day

                          store.jpg

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                          If you get confused: Listen to the Music Play
                          Please don't Chat/PM me for help, unless mod related
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                            Waqar.UK
                            last edited by Waqar.UK

                            @johnpoz

                            Thanks I understand.

                            @stephenw10
                            I will try to get a screen-grab.

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                              Waqar.UK @Waqar.UK
                              last edited by

                              OK I got to register, but got a file using Winrar:

                              pfSense-plus-installer-24.06-BETA7-amd64-20240614-1949.img

                              Can this be used to install pfsense on my Qotom i5?

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                              • GertjanG
                                Gertjan @Waqar.UK
                                last edited by

                                @Waqar-UK

                                The next step : Prepare a USB Memstick.

                                No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                                Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                                • stephenw10S
                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                  last edited by

                                  Yes that's the correct installer file.

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