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      ahole4sure
      last edited by stephenw10

      Admitedly NOT a networking expert. I am long time user of pFsense and I try to fake knowing something about networking.
      I recently was talked into getting 2 Internet Air devices from our ATT business rep (to use mainly as Failover Internet access for our 2 businness locations).

      It seems that the software interface for the Internet Air is not so networking friendly -- can't even find a way to place Bridge Mode - but there is a way to make a DMZ.

      I have connected the Internet Air to the WAN port on my pfsense using one of the LAN ports on the Internet Air. The WAN port is setup as DHCP and after configuration shows up on my pfsense Dashboard as connected but connected via private IP address 192.168.1.11 (my main LAN is 192.168.1.0 based, so I changed the Internet Air to a different subnet 192.168.1.0 soi it wouldn't interfere with my LAN).

      Failover seems to "work" but after disconnecting my normal fiber WAN2 I have no "internet access".

      I didn't want to provide more information than needed but what would you need to help me troubleshoot this? Image 10-24-24 at 8.00 AM.jpeg Image 10-24-24 at 8.00 AM (1).jpeg Image 10-24-24 at 8.01 AM.jpeg Image 10-24-24 at 8.01 AM.jpeg

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      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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        Check DNS.

        Test if you can ping by IP from clients or from pfSense itself in the failed state.

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          ahole4sure @stephenw10
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          @stephenw10
          I was able to ping 8..8.8.8
          but not google.com

          I reached chase.com when I put in the ip address

          That said I could figure out how to fix it after trying DNS changes I'll send pics of my DNS pages

          That weird public IP in my DNS settings is from ATT and the Internet Air says that is their DNS serverScreenshot 2024-10-24 at 10.29.06 AM.png Image 10-24-24 at 10.31 AM.jpeg

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            ahole4sure
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            Couldn't figure out how ot edit post

            I COULDN'T figure out how to fix the probable DNS issue -- so I kept floundering with other things - none of which worked

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            • stephenw10S
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
              last edited by

              You have 'use local DNS' set anyway though so it will try to resolve directly unless you have Unbound in forwarding mode?

              Are you policy routing traffic from the LAN clients via the gateway group?

              Were you testing from LAN clients or from pfSense itself? Or both?

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                ahole4sure @stephenw10
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                @stephenw10

                I don't think I am using forwarding
                And I am not policy routing that I am aware of

                My problem is I am one of those huge supporters of pfsense but go through issues and get things set with help of people like you -- then I don't touch things for 6 months. Sorry - but thanks for patience!

                I did test from both and as I recall during my after midnight late night testing the results were the same from both pfsense and on a device on the LAN

                Are thre any other settings or log files I can send to help better? I read log files until 2 am hoping to see something that helped

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                  flat4
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                  PROBABLY NOT GOOD IDEA TO EXPOSE THE GUI TO THE WWW

                  but its your call

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                    ahole4sure @ahole4sure
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                    @ahole4sure Image 10-24-24 at 11.15 AM.jpeg

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                      ahole4sure @flat4
                      last edited by

                      @flat4 did I not gray/red out anything of importance ??? did I miss something important?

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                        last edited by

                        Check the DNS resolver settings, that can also be set in forwarding mode. It resolves directly by default though.

                        Try resolving something in the pfSense GUI in Diag > DNS Lookup.
                        Note what servers are responding in the failed WAN state.

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                          ahole4sure @stephenw10
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                          @stephenw10
                          I will check the failed state DNS resolution (from pfsense) later today when I am back on site

                          But here are screenshots of the DNS Resolver. Should I just disable DNS Resolver ?Image 10-24-24 at 11.35 AM.jpeg Image 10-24-24 at 11.36 AM.jpeg Image 10-24-24 at 11.36 AM (1).jpeg

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                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                            last edited by

                            No I would expect that to work. It is in resolving mode and set to use 'all' interfaces for outgoing queries. So it should switch to use the WAN when the system default gateway changes.

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                              ahole4sure @stephenw10
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                              @stephenw10
                              So do I not have the gateway for the Internet Air established correctly - ?

                              Would there be any benefit for deleting the "interface" (it used to be a Suddenlink cable modem , before I added the Frontier fiber internet as WAN2)? And then recreating the interface and starting all over ??
                              I'm at a loss ...

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                              • stephenw10S
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                last edited by

                                Unclear at this point. You need to run some DNS testing in the failed state to ind out what's actually failing.

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                                  ahole4sure @stephenw10
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                                  @stephenw10
                                  Ok so I got on-site

                                  Looks like I can ping and access routes from pfsense and on the LAN
                                  but I can NOT resolve DNS from either pFsense or the LAN

                                  It just hangs when trying to resolve a DNS

                                  What can I post that will help to resolve this frustrating issue ??

                                  THANKS

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                                    ahole4sure @ahole4sure
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                                      ahole4sure
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                                      These were attempts to ping form pfsense while in failed state - one to numerical address the other to nameImage 10-24-24 at 4.46 PM.jpeg Image 10-24-24 at 4.50 PM.jpeg Image 10-24-24 at 4.51 PM.jpeg

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                                      • stephenw10S
                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                        last edited by stephenw10

                                        So try to resolve google.com in Diag > DNS Lookup where all the configured DNS servers are tested.

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                                          ahole4sure @stephenw10
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                                          @stephenw10

                                          So I have tried as recommended - still nothing. It's like the system gets "stuck" when I try the DNS Lookup after fail state begins. And to make matters worse the more changes I make now, it appears that coming back out of the failed state requires reboot of the pFsense to get things working for my main WAN and internet source.
                                          I am a loss now as to how to even troubleshoot

                                          Gonna try to call ATT today - I wish I could get a way to put ATT modem in bridge mode. As maybe mentioned before, I have DMZ set to the dhcp (later set to static) address of 192.168.2.11 that the ATT gateway/modem gave my pFsense box - yet it still shows the local IP of 192.168.1.11 in pFsense dashboard. I was hoping that it would show public IP. Not sure that it has anyhting to do with the DNS issue though.

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                                          • stephenw10S
                                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                            last edited by

                                            Hmm, is it possible it's blocking or intercepting DNS traffic?

                                            Check the state table in Diag > States when the main WAN2 is down and you are trying to resolve something. You should see the udp port 53 connections using the WAN.

                                            Did you try changing the kill state on gateway failure setting?

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