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    Netgate 2100 update version from 24.03 to 24.11 - Any known issues?

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      netboy @stephenw10
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      @stephenw10 Thanks
      Does Netgate test all these updates thoroughly? IMHO, they have to really up their testing.....I am not going to update the version.

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        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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        @GPinzone said in Netgate 2100 update version from 24.03 to 24.11 - Any known issues?:

        https://forum.netgate.com/topic/190231/updating-pfblockerng-devel-on-23-09-caused-instability-upgrading-to-23-09-1-w-3-2-0_8-solved-it

        Ah OK. Well that was a pkg issue and in the development version specifically. It would have affected you whether or not you upgraded the pfSense version.

        But if you're running ZFS you can create a BE at any time and roll back if a package update has issues for you.

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          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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          I have personally upgraded a 2100 many times between various versions and 24.11. And I have several deliberately complex configs that I'd not expect to ever find in a real-world system.

          I would have no doubts about upgrading a production 2100 at this point. But I would still backup the config and make sure I have good BE snap before doing so.

          The only issues I'm aware of are with the Squid package, which is deprecated. And, as mentioned above, if you have added WiFi hardware and are coming from 23.09.1 you may see problems. That would have failed in 24.03 though.

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            GPinzone @stephenw10
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            @stephenw10 said in Netgate 2100 update version from 24.03 to 24.11 - Any known issues?:

            @GPinzone said in Netgate 2100 update version from 24.03 to 24.11 - Any known issues?:

            https://forum.netgate.com/topic/190231/updating-pfblockerng-devel-on-23-09-caused-instability-upgrading-to-23-09-1-w-3-2-0_8-solved-it

            Ah OK. Well that was a pkg issue and in the development version specifically. It would have affected you whether or not you upgraded the pfSense version.

            But if you're running ZFS you can create a BE at any time and roll back if a package update has issues for you.

            The point is that it should have never been released. There's no way adequate testing was done. It caused my Netgate to become unusable and I had to restore everything from backup. That's not how things are supposed to work.

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            • stephenw10S
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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              It was an update to the development version of the package. But, yes, we should have caught that failure.

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                JonathanLee @stephenw10
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                @stephenw10 if Squid fixed the major issues with version 7 is the Squid package going to still be supported ?

                Make sure to upvote

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                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                  Probably not. But anything's possible.

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                    netboy @stephenw10
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                    @stephenw10 I am in the process of backuping up to upgrade.

                    As per instructions I backed up XML files
                    (screenshot below) and somewhere here it says "BE backup" - how do I do this? BE is probably boot environment?
                    7ea49830-225d-4680-897c-de8a19f645f5-image.png

                    And in the instructions it says make sure you have enough space (in case of ZFS) since it retains previous environment. Here is my screenshot: Should delete any of the ones below?

                    e93065d8-487c-437b-b5ca-1d70438cfd27-image.png

                    Are there any other backups I must take before upgrade from 24.03 to 24.11? Please advice.

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                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                      The ZFS upgrade process will automatically create a new BE when it runs so you shouldn't need to do anything there. But you can create new BE yourself if you want to, just use the 'quick create' button.

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                        netboy @stephenw10
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                        @stephenw10 What is this message?
                        "Another instance of pfSense-upgrade is running. Please try again in a few moments."

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                          netboy @netboy
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                          @netboy Tried after some time - SUCCESS!

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                          Approx 12 minutes for upgrade from 24.03 to 24.11 - Upgrade went smooth. If there are issues shall report

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                            JonathanLee
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                            If you have a 2100 with a mpcie to NVMe adapter the software won’t update because the driver for NVMe causes issues during updates, but I think I am the only one that has a NVMe in a 2100 by way of an adapter.

                            Make sure to upvote

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                              netboy @JonathanLee
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                              @JonathanLee I do not have an NVMe

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                                SteveITS Galactic Empire @netboy
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                                @netboy said in Netgate 2100 update version from 24.03 to 24.11 - Any known issues?:

                                And in the instructions it says make sure you have enough space (in case of ZFS) since it retains previous environment. Here is my screenshot: Should delete any of the ones below?

                                You can delete any version or snapshot you no longer want to go back to. Eventually you’ll need to so you don’t run out of space. Ignore the “size” there it’s misleading. See https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/troubleshooting/filesystem-shrink.html

                                Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
                                When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
                                Upvote 👍 helpful posts!

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                                  whatlamermadethisidpolicy @netboy
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                                  @netboy said in Netgate 2100 update version from 24.03 to 24.11 - Any known issues?:

                                  If you have an older 2100 with only 2GB of storage you are not going to have any fun here, because 24.11 will not fit in the space available. I see the newer 2100 comes with 8GB of disk, or you could install something in the SSD socket.

                                  What's annoying here is Netgate could have said something about this, as opposed to just letting it eventually say "Failed" and then sit there, croaked.

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                                    SteveITS Galactic Empire @whatlamermadethisidpolicy
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                                    @whatlamermadethisidpolicy Having owned an early one and sold many to clients, I don’t think any had a 2 GB disk. You might be running into this? https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/troubleshooting/filesystem-shrink.html

                                    Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
                                    When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
                                    Upvote 👍 helpful posts!

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                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                      Indeed the 2100 has always had 8GB of storage. And yes it's probably old ZFS BE snapshots using the space that cause the dashboard to report it as only ~2GB.

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                                        whatlamermadethisidpolicy @SteveITS
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                                        You might be running into this? https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/troubleshooting/filesystem-shrink.html

                                        Yes, thank you and Stephen, I see I can recover almost 6GB of space.

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