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Auto Configuration Backup fails after WAN IP change

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    Gertjan @codersaur
    last edited by Feb 13, 2025, 12:12 PM

    @codersaur said in Auto Configuration Backup fails after WAN IP change:

    So, I am wondering if the backups are somehow being refused because the public IP of my router has changed?

    Why ?
    When you

    @codersaur said in Auto Configuration Backup fails after WAN IP change:

    I can curl -L http://acb.netgate.com from

    weren't you using the same WAN IP ?
    Go here : Services > Dynamic DNS > Check IP Services and copy the URL.
    'curl' to it. It will show your WAN IP, right ?

    This could be very well a probably temporary glitch as "http://acb.netgate.com" can get a bit overworked as more and more and more pfSense devices dump their daily config file.

    @codersaur said in Auto Configuration Backup fails after WAN IP change:

    "every configuration change"

    Yeah, what about not abusing a free service ( 😊 ) - I mean : ones a day or so is just fine for most needs.

    No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
    Edit : and where are the logs ??

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      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
      last edited by Feb 13, 2025, 1:21 PM

      We are digging into this internally. We spent a while looking at it yesterday and so far it looks like back end problem.

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        codersaur @stephenw10
        last edited by Feb 13, 2025, 2:42 PM

        @stephenw10 said in Auto Configuration Backup fails after WAN IP change:

        We are digging into this internally. We spent a while looking at it yesterday and so far it looks like back end problem.

        Thanks Stephen, I look forward to your conclusions so we can get this resolved asap - I've been having to make manual backups for the last three weeks.

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          codersaur @stephenw10
          last edited by Feb 20, 2025, 9:48 AM

          @stephenw10 did your investigation yield any useful conclusions? My backup is still failing each morning.

          Is there some way I can purge the local backup files in case there is some lingering corruption which is causing the issue when they are uploaded?

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            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
            last edited by Feb 20, 2025, 3:09 PM

            The file that gets uploaded is generated from the config each time. However you can check if it's still present in /tmp. The file name is {file_hash}.tmp. It should be removed from there after uploading.

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              Gertjan @codersaur
              last edited by Feb 21, 2025, 7:08 AM

              @codersaur

              And check the file size ?
              Be ware : backup files are here : /cf/conf/backup/

              No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
              Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                codersaur @stephenw10
                last edited by Feb 21, 2025, 10:56 AM

                @stephenw10 so there's no .tmp file.

                Backup dir looks normal (I guess) with each xml file being 9.1MB and being created at 04:48 as per schedule (the ACME service also seems to trigger a backup at 03:16 every third day).

                I've run the latest xml file through a validator and it seems fine. So I am still at a loss as to why my backup uploads to acb.netgate.com are failing...

                /root: ls -lah /cf/conf/backup/
                total 279376
                drwxr-xr-x  2 root wheel  1.5K Feb 21 04:48 .
                drwxr-xr-x  5 root wheel  1.0K Feb 21 04:48 ..
                -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  4.6K Feb 21 04:48 backup.cache
                -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 13 15:38 config-1739461091.xml
                -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 13 15:38 config-1739461092.xml
                -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 13 15:38 config-1739461093.xml
                -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 13 15:38 config-1739461096.xml
                -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 13 15:38 config-1739461097.xml
                -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 13 15:38 config-1739461098.xml
                -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 13 15:38 config-1739461100.xml
                -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 13 15:38 config-1739461101.xml
                -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 13 15:38 config-1739461102.xml
                -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 13 15:38 config-1739461105.xml
                -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 13 15:38 config-1739461106.xml
                -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 13 15:38 config-1739461107.xml
                -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 13 15:38 config-1739461109.xml
                -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 13 15:38 config-1739461110.xml
                -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 13 15:38 config-1739461111.xml
                -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 13 15:38 config-1739461112.xml
                -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 13 15:38 config-1739461115.xml
                -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 13 15:38 config-1739461116.xml
                -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 13 15:38 config-1739461117.xml
                -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 14 04:48 config-1739461118.xml
                -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 15 03:16 config-1739508480.xml
                -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 15 04:48 config-1739589365.xml
                -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 16 04:48 config-1739594880.xml
                -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 17 04:48 config-1739681280.xml
                -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 18 03:16 config-1739767680.xml
                -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 18 04:48 config-1739848565.xml
                -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 19 04:48 config-1739854080.xml
                -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 20 04:48 config-1739940480.xml
                -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 21 03:16 config-1740026880.xml
                -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 21 04:48 config-1740107765.xml
                
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                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by Feb 21, 2025, 11:44 AM

                  Yes, it pretty much has to be the backend rejecting it. I'll poke our guys again.

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                    Gertjan @codersaur
                    last edited by Feb 21, 2025, 12:45 PM

                    @codersaur

                    My typical config-xxx.xml files are 650 Kbytes or so for a 24.11 on a 4100.
                    9+ Mbytes seems a lot to me.

                    No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                    Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                      codersaur @Gertjan
                      last edited by codersaur Feb 21, 2025, 1:18 PM Feb 21, 2025, 1:15 PM

                      @Gertjan The xml files seem to include the rrddata. If I make a manual backup without rrddata the size is ~380 Kb.

                      There doesn't seem to be an option in the ACB config page to include/exclude rrd data like there is on the manual Diagnostics > Backup/Restore...

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                        williamrolison
                        last edited by williamrolison Feb 21, 2025, 2:07 PM Feb 21, 2025, 1:53 PM

                        Since I can't thumb up ATM. Anyways.

                        I'm having this same issue as codersaur.

                        Look forward to the fix. For now disabled.

                        Netgate 4200 24.11

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                          codersaur @williamrolison
                          last edited by Feb 21, 2025, 2:07 PM

                          @williamrolison When did it start failing and can you correlate with any changes on your side? If yours also started failing around 20th Jan that might indicate a server-side change and rule out the WAN IP change a factor. Conversely, if you also had a WAN IP change that might also help track down the root cause.

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                            williamrolison @codersaur
                            last edited by Feb 21, 2025, 2:12 PM

                            Started for me on Feb 13. Feb 11 was when IP changed.

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                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                              last edited by Feb 21, 2025, 3:11 PM

                              The encrypted files uploaded to acb always exclude RRD data so that file size should be no issue. But clearly something is....

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                                codersaur @stephenw10
                                last edited by Mar 4, 2025, 11:33 AM

                                @stephenw10 is there any progress update on this issue? Thanks.

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                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                  last edited by Mar 10, 2025, 12:46 AM

                                  Nothing yet. I'll see if our IT guys found anything.....

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                                    codersaur @stephenw10
                                    last edited by Mar 17, 2025, 6:53 PM

                                    @stephenw10 said in Auto Configuration Backup fails after WAN IP change:

                                    Nothing yet. I'll see if our IT guys found anything.....

                                    Have they found anything? Backup is still failing every day.

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                                      codersaur @stephenw10
                                      last edited by Apr 2, 2025, 1:46 PM

                                      @stephenw10 bump. Still failing...

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                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                        last edited by Apr 2, 2025, 4:12 PM

                                        Sorry let me find out what we can do....

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                                          codersaur @stephenw10
                                          last edited by Apr 9, 2025, 9:00 AM

                                          @stephenw10 said in Auto Configuration Backup fails after WAN IP change:

                                          Sorry let me find out what we can do....

                                          bump...

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