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    Auto Configuration Backup fails after WAN IP change

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    • GertjanG
      Gertjan @codersaur
      last edited by

      @codersaur

      And check the file size ?
      Be ware : backup files are here : /cf/conf/backup/

      No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
      Edit : and where are the logs ??

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        codersaur @stephenw10
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        @stephenw10 so there's no .tmp file.

        Backup dir looks normal (I guess) with each xml file being 9.1MB and being created at 04:48 as per schedule (the ACME service also seems to trigger a backup at 03:16 every third day).

        I've run the latest xml file through a validator and it seems fine. So I am still at a loss as to why my backup uploads to acb.netgate.com are failing...

        /root: ls -lah /cf/conf/backup/
        total 279376
        drwxr-xr-x  2 root wheel  1.5K Feb 21 04:48 .
        drwxr-xr-x  5 root wheel  1.0K Feb 21 04:48 ..
        -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  4.6K Feb 21 04:48 backup.cache
        -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 13 15:38 config-1739461091.xml
        -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 13 15:38 config-1739461092.xml
        -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 13 15:38 config-1739461093.xml
        -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 13 15:38 config-1739461096.xml
        -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 13 15:38 config-1739461097.xml
        -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 13 15:38 config-1739461098.xml
        -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 13 15:38 config-1739461100.xml
        -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 13 15:38 config-1739461101.xml
        -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 13 15:38 config-1739461102.xml
        -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 13 15:38 config-1739461105.xml
        -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 13 15:38 config-1739461106.xml
        -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 13 15:38 config-1739461107.xml
        -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 13 15:38 config-1739461109.xml
        -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 13 15:38 config-1739461110.xml
        -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 13 15:38 config-1739461111.xml
        -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 13 15:38 config-1739461112.xml
        -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 13 15:38 config-1739461115.xml
        -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 13 15:38 config-1739461116.xml
        -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 13 15:38 config-1739461117.xml
        -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 14 04:48 config-1739461118.xml
        -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 15 03:16 config-1739508480.xml
        -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 15 04:48 config-1739589365.xml
        -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 16 04:48 config-1739594880.xml
        -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 17 04:48 config-1739681280.xml
        -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 18 03:16 config-1739767680.xml
        -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 18 04:48 config-1739848565.xml
        -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 19 04:48 config-1739854080.xml
        -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 20 04:48 config-1739940480.xml
        -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 21 03:16 config-1740026880.xml
        -rw-r--r--  1 root wheel  9.1M Feb 21 04:48 config-1740107765.xml
        
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        • stephenw10S
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
          last edited by

          Yes, it pretty much has to be the backend rejecting it. I'll poke our guys again.

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          • GertjanG
            Gertjan @codersaur
            last edited by

            @codersaur

            My typical config-xxx.xml files are 650 Kbytes or so for a 24.11 on a 4100.
            9+ Mbytes seems a lot to me.

            No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
            Edit : and where are the logs ??

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              codersaur @Gertjan
              last edited by codersaur

              @Gertjan The xml files seem to include the rrddata. If I make a manual backup without rrddata the size is ~380 Kb.

              There doesn't seem to be an option in the ACB config page to include/exclude rrd data like there is on the manual Diagnostics > Backup/Restore...

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                williamrolison
                last edited by williamrolison

                Since I can't thumb up ATM. Anyways.

                I'm having this same issue as codersaur.

                Look forward to the fix. For now disabled.

                Netgate 4200 24.11

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                  codersaur @williamrolison
                  last edited by

                  @williamrolison When did it start failing and can you correlate with any changes on your side? If yours also started failing around 20th Jan that might indicate a server-side change and rule out the WAN IP change a factor. Conversely, if you also had a WAN IP change that might also help track down the root cause.

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                    williamrolison @codersaur
                    last edited by

                    Started for me on Feb 13. Feb 11 was when IP changed.

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by

                      The encrypted files uploaded to acb always exclude RRD data so that file size should be no issue. But clearly something is....

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                        codersaur @stephenw10
                        last edited by

                        @stephenw10 is there any progress update on this issue? Thanks.

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                        • stephenw10S
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                          last edited by

                          Nothing yet. I'll see if our IT guys found anything.....

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                            codersaur @stephenw10
                            last edited by

                            @stephenw10 said in Auto Configuration Backup fails after WAN IP change:

                            Nothing yet. I'll see if our IT guys found anything.....

                            Have they found anything? Backup is still failing every day.

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                              codersaur @stephenw10
                              last edited by

                              @stephenw10 bump. Still failing...

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                              • stephenw10S
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                last edited by

                                Sorry let me find out what we can do....

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                                  codersaur @stephenw10
                                  last edited by

                                  @stephenw10 said in Auto Configuration Backup fails after WAN IP change:

                                  Sorry let me find out what we can do....

                                  bump...

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                                    codersaur @stephenw10
                                    last edited by

                                    @stephenw10 said in Auto Configuration Backup fails after WAN IP change:

                                    Sorry let me find out what we can do....

                                    Were you able to find anything out?

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                                    • stephenw10S
                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                      last edited by

                                      Nope I still have nothing. Let me push harder...

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                                      • stephenw10S
                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                        last edited by

                                        OK are you still seeing this now? There were some back end changes.

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                                          codersaur @stephenw10
                                          last edited by

                                          @stephenw10 said in Auto Configuration Backup fails after WAN IP change:

                                          OK are you still seeing this now? There were some back end changes.

                                          Just tried now. Still failing.

                                          2025-05-08 19:08:30.196785+01:00 /usr/local/sbin/acbupload.php: New alert found: An error occurred while uploading the encrypted pfSense configuration to https://acb.netgate.com/save (Operation timed out after 30000 milliseconds with 0 bytes received)*

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                                            williamrolison
                                            last edited by williamrolison

                                            A manual backup just worked for me now.

                                            And I see it did a few on it's own when I re-renabled, as expected.

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                                            Test 1 is me hitting the "Backup now" button. The other 3 is it doing it's thing.

                                            Edit: Installed wireguard as well to be sure it would backup before hand, and it did :)

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                                            So works for me now, Thanks!

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