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    Why do we need to pay for pfS + ????

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    • chudakC Offline
      chudak
      last edited by chudak

      So I had a problem when my router would reboot by itself after 24.03 upgrades (I have used my router for 8 years!).

      Tech support suggested to do a fresh install, but I decided to wait till 25.x

      Waited, but 25.x did not fully address the problem.
      And now I am buying a new h/w.

      I paid for 2 years pfs + subscription.

      In order to install on a new h/w I need to install CE and then transfer my subscription or buy a new one.

      I was a big proponent of paying for pfS and compared it with Proxmox where I pay voluntarily.

      But my question is why so much hassle????
      Why do I want to pay for pfS+ if all I get more troubles and more work in such situations?

      As oppose to stay on CE or move to OPNSense all together?

      @netgate guys care to convince me why to pay for subscription renewal?

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        azdeltawye @chudak
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        @chudak Why not just buy a Netgate device and get pfS+ 'for free'...

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          chudak @azdeltawye
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          @azdeltawye said in Why do we need to pay for pfS + ????:

          @chudak Why not just buy a Netgate device and get pfS+ 'for free'...

          Let's take that as working theory.
          Say I buy a Netgate device
          It come with 1 year subscription, that's cool.

          How will it help in my scenario? If I need to replace I'd buy a new one? Not to mention that it's expensive.

          Why build some artificial difficulties that force users NOT to pay for pfS?!

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            azdeltawye @chudak
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            @chudak When you buy a Netgate device, it comes with a pfS+ lifetime subscription...

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              chudak @azdeltawye
              last edited by

              @azdeltawye said in Why do we need to pay for pfS + ????:

              @chudak When you buy a Netgate device, it comes with a pfS+ lifetime subscription...

              That's interesting...

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                KOM @chudak
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                @chudak Lifetime of the device, not your personal lifetime. And even then, there's no guarantee your device will still work with current builds 2-3 years later depending on RAM, CPU etc.

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                  chudak @azdeltawye
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                  @azdeltawye said in Why do we need to pay for pfS + ????:

                  @chudak Why not just buy a Netgate device and get pfS+ 'for free'...

                  How do you connect monitor to it?

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                    azdeltawye @chudak
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                    @chudak

                    How do you connect monitor to it?

                    Huh? Netgate devices typically have a console port for updates and CLI functions. But the 'monitor' is just the GUI interface that you access via web browser.

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                      chudak @azdeltawye
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                      @azdeltawye said in Why do we need to pay for pfS + ????:

                      @chudak

                      How do you connect monitor to it?

                      Huh? Netgate devices typically have a console port for updates and CLI functions. But the 'monitor' is just the GUI interface that you access via web browser.

                      And what about like in my case you need to do a "fresh" install?

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                        azdeltawye @chudak
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                        @chudak

                        And what about like in my case you need to do a "fresh" install?

                        You reach out to TAC, they send you the latest software, you put it on a USB and load it to your device via the CLI.

                        Its all detailed in the instructions:
                        https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/install/index.html

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                          mer @azdeltawye
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                          @azdeltawye CLI in this case probably means the serial console.
                          Which works just fine.

                          But the OP, I'm not sure I would expect my SG2440 (way over 8 yrs old) to work/be supported by 25.07.

                          But that's just me and I probably have different expectations of "everything"

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                            SteveITS Rebel Alliance @chudak
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                            @chudak said in Why do we need to pay for pfS + ????:

                            How do you connect monitor to it?

                            See for example https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/solutions/netgate-4200/#how-to-guides

                            In general Netgate makes sure new releases work on old Netgate hardware until it can’t.

                            Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
                            When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to reboot, or more depending on packages, and device or disk speed.
                            Upvote 👍 helpful posts!

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