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    Cannot Achieve 10g pfsense bottleneck

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      w0w @stephenw10
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      @stephenw10 said in Cannot Achieve 10g pfsense bottleneck:

      about 2 hours ago

      Mmm, drive speed and boot type really shouldn't make any difference to throughput.

      This makes a difference if we want to migrate to a Proxmox VM. When a SATA drive is used, you can prepare a new drive with Proxmox and a pfSense VM on another system, then just move it over and reassign the interfaces in Proxmox. Just use a USB Ethernet adapter as the management interface on both PCs. With NVMe it can be more complicated and may require more downtime.

      @Laxarus try the iperf command provided in my previous message and post back the results.

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        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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        Right but no difference to the the throughput of the resulting install.

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          w0w @stephenw10
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          @stephenw10 said in Cannot Achieve 10g pfsense bottleneck:

          about 2 hours ago

          Right but no difference to the the throughput of the resulting install.

          Definitely yes. 😁

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            pwood999 @Averlon
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            @Averlon The reason I suggest testing each server to & from PfSense was just to verify that part of the E2E path - especially as the 25G link is used for all VLAN's to the Microtik.

            Server1 --> Microtik --> PfSense (DS & US)
            Server2 --> Microtik --> PfSense (DS & US)

            It would at least verify the firewall rules on the VLAN's & the VLAN's through the Microtik can pass the full bandwidth.

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              Laxarus @w0w
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              @w0w said in Cannot Achieve 10g pfsense bottleneck:

              @Laxarus try the iperf command provided in my previous message and post back the results.

              still 5G and occasional 6G

              @Averlon said in Cannot Achieve 10g pfsense bottleneck:

              My suggestion is to disable HT / SMT, scale queues down to 4 and there might be another improvement. The Intel SpeedShift may work better on packed level rather than core level.

              disabled HT but this did not make any difference

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                w0w @Laxarus
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                @Laxarus said in Cannot Achieve 10g pfsense bottleneck:

                still 5G and occasional 6G

                OK, so how exactly is the Intel XXV710 dual 25G connected to the Ubiquiti switch, and what is the exact switch model, ports, cables, and transceivers you’re using if any?

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                  Laxarus @w0w
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                  @w0w
                  Switch: USW-EnterpriseXG-24
                  Connection: Unifi SFP28 DAC cable (UC-DAC-SFP28)

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                  I disabled the LAGG so there is only a single cable now.

                  Do you think these cables dont play nice with pfsense?

                  But I also tested the 10g rj-45 built-in port but still no difference so I've ruled this out.

                  At this point, I am entertaining the idea of putting all 10G devices in same vlan/switch and stick with L2.

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                    w0w @Laxarus
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                    @Laxarus said in Cannot Achieve 10g pfsense bottleneck:

                    Do you think these cables dont play nice with pfsense?

                    I don’t think so. The more I look at it, the more I think it’s some software glitch — but where exactly is the bottleneck? It looks just like some queues/limiters. This CPU should do 30-40 Gbit with fw filtering and 60 Gbit just for routing. I don’t know — something is broken.

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                      pwood999
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                      Maybe share your PfSense config, with any public IP's, Certs, etc. obfuscated ?

                      Or just screenshots of the VLAN firewall rules & any Limiter/Shaper queue settings ?

                      Check this post or an XML Redactor that might be helpful.
                      link redactor

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                        Averlon @Laxarus
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                        @Laxarus said in Cannot Achieve 10g pfsense bottleneck:

                        disabled HT but this did not make any difference

                        Did you configure the NIC queues down to 4 as well and tested SpeedShift at Package Level? The hwpstate_intel driver works quite well with Broadwell CPUs and does shown improvements (according to your post) towards 6Gbps on your Skylake CPUs. Compared to your previous posted results, this is an improvement of almost 1Gbps.

                        How is the throughput if you disable the firewall (pfctl -d) and use pfsense as router only. NAT won't be available once you disable the firewall. You can re-enable by running pfctl -e and it will load your last ruleset. If you don't see any significant difference with firewall disabled, you can be at least sure, it's not the firewall ruleset slowing things down.

                        What about the interface counter on that Ubiquiti switch, especially the ones for the 25gbps Uplinks - are there any error counter / drops shown?

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