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    Problem with two lan networks and access to ap

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    • K
      kejianshi
      last edited by

      This thing is a full-on broadband router - Are you 100% sure your are NOT running any of its many functions that will break its ability to play well with pfsense?

      level one WBR-3406TX Wireless Broadband NAT Router

      Please do me a favor…  Draw me a diagram how this this is connected also.

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        firefox
        last edited by

        When I changed this router to ap
        I followed online Guide
        I canceled the dhcp
        I canceled the firewall
        I plugged to the lan port
        I gave him a fixed address outside the range of dhcp addresses of pfsense

        The only thing there is a network name ssid
        And password to the network

        And again it worked properly for six months
        Just two days ago after upgraded the pfsense
        I do not have access to the management interface

        I have not changed anything there

        again
        Thanks for the help

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          kejianshi
          last edited by

          OK - I'm going to go ahead and join you in not knowing whats wrong.

          Is this a stand alone machine?

          Could you boot this pfsense from livecd with no packages and no rules and try?

          This way can know if 2.1 works for you but maybe your settings or packages are just screwed up.

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            firefox
            last edited by

            @kejianshi:

            Is this a stand alone machine?

            I did not understand what it means stand alone machine ?

            I will describe what I have

            I took a computer without an operating system with nothing
            I added three network cards

            Downloaded from the website of pfsense
            Version 2.0.3 to burn to disc

            I turned on the computer and installed the system

            Beyond that I do not have much access to this computer
            One network card connected to the modem
            Second network card is connected to the switch
            Third network card connected to AP

            I do not have a disk with version 2.1
            I'll have to download and burn

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            • K
              kejianshi
              last edited by

              I would try it with a livecd.  This way you don't have to go changing settings to experiment to find out if its just the settings or packages.
              You can tinker and the changes will not be permanent.

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                firefox
                last edited by

                OK
                I downloaded the file, burn it
                I turned on the system from the disk
                I defined the interfaces according to what I wrote earlier

                I currently browses through the operating system disk

                Still no access

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                • stephenw10S
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by

                  The IPv4/v6 thing is not relevant here. With it enabled by default in the beta and RC images it sometime caused odd connection problems when people had broken IPv6 implenmentations at their ISP or router/AP.

                  My money is on Snort. Do the Snort get correctly copied across the update? Check the logs, what is being blocked?

                  Steve

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                    firefox
                    last edited by

                    @stephenw10:

                    My money is on Snort. Do the Snort get correctly copied across the update? Check the logs, what is being blocked?

                    I currently browses through the live cd
                    No package

                    Still no access

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by

                      Lost that bet then!  ::)

                      Check the firewall logs anything blocked? You've unchecked 'block private networks'?

                      Forget accessing the webgui of the AP. Try some basic pinging. Try to ping everything from everything else! Check the logs again.

                      Steve

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                        firefox
                        last edited by

                        There Pings
                        Both to ap
                        Well as computer connected wirelessly to ap

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                        • stephenw10S
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                          last edited by

                          Sorry I'm not sure quite what you mean there. What can ping what?  :-\

                          Steve

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                            firefox
                            last edited by

                            i can ping from a computer that Connected to the Wired network
                            to the AP
                            to a computer connected to the Wireless Network

                            And Reverse

                            i can ping from a computer that Connected to the Wireless Network
                            to a computer connected to the wired Network

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                            • stephenw10S
                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                              last edited by

                              Ok.
                              Can you ping from the pfSense box to the AP? to a wireless client?
                              Can you ping from the AP to the pfSense box or a wired client?

                              I have a router I use as an access point that behaves exactly as yours is doing and the reason is that it has no route to get packets back to clients on the other subnet. The AP/router usually uses it's WAN port for anything that isn't in its LAN subnet but in this scenario it has no WAN so it has no route. I have successfully worked around this by setting a subnet mask on the AP that contains all the local subnets, i.e. /16 However I have an AP this doesn't work for.
                              That doesn't explain why it worked fine under 2.0.3 though.  :-\

                              Steve

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                                firefox
                                last edited by

                                from pfsense to AP - There is Ping
                                from pfsense to wireless client - no ping
                                from AP to pfsense - no ping
                                from AP to wired client - no ping

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                                  phil.davis
                                  last edited by

                                  from pfsense to AP - There is Ping

                                  That would go out from 192.168.2.1 on pfSense directly to the AP. So pfSense OPT1 and the AP have compatible (hopefully the same) subnets.

                                  from AP to pfsense - no ping

                                  I guess that was from AP, ping 192.168.1.1 - the pfSense LAN IP. In that case the AP probably does not know how to route to that. If you tried to ping 192.168.2.1 then that is good, but you will need to have added a pass rule on OPT1 after booting the LiveCD version.

                                  I can't understand what has happened here - the symptoms look a lot like an AP subnet/mask/default gateway problem. But it is pfSense that has been upgraded - so what is the real cause of the problem???

                                  Can you post the actual AP:

                                  • IP address
                                  • network mask
                                  • default gateway for LAN (or tell us that there is no setting for that)

                                  and confirm that OPT1 is 192.168.2.1/24 and has a pass rule with source any (or OPT1 net).

                                  As the Greek philosopher Isosceles used to say, "There are 3 sides to every triangle."
                                  If I helped you, then help someone else - buy someone a gift from the INF catalog http://secure.inf.org/gifts/usd/

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                                    firefox
                                    last edited by

                                    Few answers

                                    Interfaces configured so

                                    Wired network 192.168.0.1/24      –----> go to Switch          dhcp on pfsense 192.168.0.30 -- 100

                                    Wireless Network 192.168.2.1/24  ------> go to AP                dhcp on pfsense 192.168.2.30 -- 100

                                    AP Fixed address  192.168.2.101

                                    ping from pfsense 192.168.0.1 to AP 192.168.2.1 There is Ping

                                    ping from AP 192.168.2.1 to pfsense 192.168.0.1 no ping

                                    OPT1 = WIFI = 192.168.2.1/24

                                    Here are screen shots of the management interface of the AP

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                                      firefox
                                      last edited by

                                      MORE

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                                        doktornotor Banned
                                        last edited by

                                        Afraid your WAN should be set to Disabled, not Dynamic IP Address.

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                                        • K
                                          kejianshi
                                          last edited by

                                          Totally not a pfsense problem.  Did you get it working yet?

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                                            phil.davis
                                            last edited by

                                            I can't see where it lets you specify

                                            1. the LAN netmask (/24 or 255.255.255.0)
                                            2. a LAN gateway

                                            Probably (1) is on a screen somewhere - maybe I missed it.
                                            I suspect it won't have a place to enter (2), because it thinks it is already a router (gateway).

                                            As the Greek philosopher Isosceles used to say, "There are 3 sides to every triangle."
                                            If I helped you, then help someone else - buy someone a gift from the INF catalog http://secure.inf.org/gifts/usd/

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