Successful Install on Watchguard Firebox X700!

cologuy

After my very successful re-flash of a x1250e last week I'm going to try to
resurrect a old X500 with pfSense.

A quick read of the docs and page one of this thread seems to indicate that you
boot a live CD on a laptop and install directly to the CF (I assume mounted via USB). Is
that still the recommended option? And what size CF card is needed for 2.x pfsense? Or
can I just write an image to the CF card as is done for the X-core-E models?

The docs appear to be a little sparse regarding these details :) :) :)

stephenw10

Just write the image to CF and boot it. :)
It should mostly be covered in the doc page: http://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/PfSense_on_Watchguard_Firebox#Installing_pfSense
Feel free to suggest any improvements in the related forum thread: http://forum.pfsense.org/index.php/topic,59821.0.html

Steve

cologuy

Just write the image to CF and boot it.

It does not say that anywhere that succinctly :) (The documentation is excellent, just missing that
small detail).

No size restrictions like the x-core-e models? Can i use a 4gb?

stephenw10

There are no bios restrictions like the X-e boxes. Any card should boot.
The only thing to watch out for is the serial port quirk.

Steve

cologuy

Thanks, I've got to order another CF card and did not want to have problems.

cologuy

I got another 4gb CF card and copied a 2.0.3 1GB image on it and it boots fine.

I have read about the serial port baud rate issue but I'm not clear on when to
change it. I go through the setup and skip the vlan setup and assign re0 to the WAN and re1 to
the LAN (no option not to) and then the system boots to "Bootup complete" and hangs.

There is no chance that I see to assign IP's or access the webconfig command prompt to make
these changes:

console="comconsole"
comconsole_speed="115200"

Where is that supposed to happen?

stephenw10

The LAN interface will be on 192.168.1.1 with dhcp enabled by default. You should be able to access the box on that way to complete the setup wizard. In 2.0.3 you have the option of setting only WAN if you want to do it that way. Just press enter when it asks for the LAN interface.

Steve

cologuy

Thanks, I was on a different sub-net so I never saw it on my network.

mleducxittel

This is a really interesting POST. However, following the WatchGuard Hardware Guide, I'm concerned about the performances. Did you know if somebody have proceed with some benchtests?

stephenw10

I guess people haven't really tested it's maximum possible throughput because the NICs are limited to 100Mbps. See this post though: http://forum.pfsense.org/index.php/topic,7458.msg164371.html#msg164371

Watchguard claim ~275Mbps firewall throughput. The throughput in pfSense is likely to lower since it's FreeBSD rather than Linux. That's not always the case though. That figure refers to the maximum summed throughput on all interfaces so it's complex to setup and not relevant for most cases. You could group some interfaces using LAGG if you have a suitable switch but that still won't help unless your test stream is multiple connections.

What are you looking for in terms of performance? What are you using the box for?

Steve

webspeed

Hello,

I want to install pfsense on a Firebox x700 but I don't have a serial cable and I can't therefore reach the console to go through the initial configuration.

Could someone be so kind to share an image of their working embedded 4g pfsense with LCD driver / WGXepc and post a download link?

Thanks

stephenw10

I could probably manage that sometime this weekend, I'll have to check the status of my X-Core box. However you should really have a serial console cable. Sometimes it's the only way of accessing the box, if you've accidentally locked yourself out for example. They are very cheap and easily available (in most places).

Steve

webspeed

@stephenw10:

I could probably manage that sometime this weekend, I'll have to check the status of my X-Core box. However you should really have a serial console cable. Sometimes it's the only way of accessing the box, if you've accidentally locked yourself out for example. They are very cheap and easily available (in most places).

Steve

Thanks Steve, the image would give me the instant gratification we all crave :) even though I guess buying a serial cable is inevitable…

drdyno

Steve,

Have you ever tried to use the 256mb CF card that came in the firebox to install pfsense or you just get bigger cf cards?

I hate going out to buy one if i dont have to.

I managed to pick up a x550e this week for $50

Jeff

stephenw10

The smallest pfSense Nano image is 512MB. The price of 2GB CF cards is pretty low but I agree I hate spending money unnecessarily. ;)

Steve

webspeed

@drdyno:

Steve, have you ever tried to use the 256mb CF card that came in the firebox to install pfsense or you just get bigger cf cards? I hate going out to buy one if i dont have to. I managed to pick up a x550e this week for $50. Jeff

Search eBay and you'll see Hitachi 4gb microdrives listed for $5 shipped, not a big investment :)

stephenw10

Careful with those. Not all microdrives support ATA mode on the interface.
http://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Microdrive_embedded_installations

Steve

CuriousG

Today I had an issue with the webgui so I decided to reboot through the LCD, I did hear the speaker where it would indicate it was going to reboot but after about a minute I tried the procedure again and that didn't work. So I just manually flipped the switch. When I turned it back on, all I got on the LCD was a bunch of blocks on the top half the of the display.

Has anyone run into this issue where the CF fails to boot? I've had this in production for about 3 months running pfSense 2.03 upgraded from 2.02.

I'm not sure if I saved the configuration so is there a way for me to extract the configuration before rewriting the CF? This is using a 2GB Team CF rated 133X.

stephenw10

You can mount the card and read it on a FreeBSD system. The config.xml file is stored in the config slice which is the smallest of the three on the card.

The two X700 boxes I've had behaved differently. The one I have currently working shows the row of blocks exactly as you describe before booting correctly. The previous one showed various things during the boot stages but eventually stopped booting all together. I think it was a dead capacitor on the board but it also had transit damage. Before it died completely it would boot maybe every third try. You could tell it wasn't going to boot because the arm/disarm LED did something odd (I can't quite remember what).

Steve

webspeed

I need some help with two pesky issues:

Getting hyper terminal to connect to Firebox x700 console. I bought a Cisco console cable (same that Watchguard provides) and I can't see any output either with Hyper Terminal or Putty, check the configuration, etc. to no avail. I installed pfsense both on a CF card and on a PATA drive, and tested it on a laptop, it worked fine. I also check that the Firebox x700 is in working order by installing the original 64mb CF card back in, booted fine.
Removing the heatsink, it's one of those bright orange copper things and I don't see how to remove it, I downloaded Watchguard's manual and it says "Remove CPU by disconnecting heatsink clip and lifting socket arm" but I don't see how to disconnect said clip, it's embedded in the center of the clip like a tight belt.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.