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    • johnpozJ
      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @bingo600
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      @bingo600 yeah I would, but what I am saying is I think its going to change again..

      I think you could grab a 22.x snapshot and see what it is.

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      • bingo600B
        bingo600 @johnpoz
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        @johnpoz said in Upgrade to ZFS:

        @bingo600 yeah I would, but what I am saying is I think its going to change again..

        I think you could grab a 22.x snapshot and see what it is.

        Are you (they) joking ?? 🤕

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        • johnpozJ
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @bingo600
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          @bingo600 haha - no I believe yeah there was some change again slated for 21.09, I was going to reinstall myself when that came out, but then 21.09 got pushed to 22.x

          Maybe I was misunderstanding? Or maybe a clean in install of 21.05.2 is final - but if I recall correctly that is not the case..

          I wasn't suggesting 22.x ship with it - I was saying you could install that and check the layout to see if yes it is different than 21.05.2

          edit: I think this was discussed in that thread that was talking about how much write was going on with zfs..

          edit2:
          Or wait - maybe I am off with that, maybe I was going to wait to reinstall when 21.09 came out vs doing clean install with 21.05.2 ?? That might be it.

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          • bingo600B
            bingo600 @johnpoz
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            @johnpoz
            Would 22.x be 2.6.x on CE ?
            Any pointers to DL ?

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            • johnpozJ
              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @bingo600
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              @bingo600 see my edit, I might of been waiting to do clean install when 21.09 came out vs doing it with 21.05.2

              Because 21.09 wasn't that far away anyway.. But if you just clean installed a 22.x version you could check to see if layout is same as 21.05.2

              edit: either way yes I would do a clean install and get zfs layout to whatever it is with the current install vs just upgrading an older version.

              edit2: and yeah I believe they match up in the latest CE vesions.

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                NRgia @johnpoz
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                @johnpoz

                I'm on CE-2.6.0-development
                What will happen if I stick with the old layout?
                Should I expect any issues in the future?

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                • johnpozJ
                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @NRgia
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                  @nrgia I would be prob the last one to ask that, I am way behind on my how zfs works info ;)

                  If there was a change in the layout from 2.5.2 to 2.6, have to assume whatever the changes would be taken into account going forward since most people just upgrade..

                  I would think simple enough to check if any change in the layout by check with a clean install of 2.5.2 and then clean install of 2.6, etc.

                  if I get a chance today I will play with that a bit.. simple enough to do a clean install of 2.5.2 and compare the layout to a 2.6 clean install.

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                  • MarinSNBM
                    MarinSNB
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                    Is there a way to upgrade to ZFS from GUI by running the install wizard of pfsense or do I need to start from scratch (by using a usb stick, etc)?

                    I was thinking of doing this when reading the 2.6.0/22.01 release notes and wasn’t sure if a switch to zfs from GUI would be possible:

                    https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/releases/22-01_2-6-0.html

                    “It is not possible to change from UFS to ZFS in place, a reinstallation of pfSense Plus or CE is required to migrate from UFS use ZFS.”

                    I suppose I could make a backup of my current configuration, reinstall pfsense from a usb stick and then reload my previous config but wasn’t sure if there is an easier way to achieve this.

                    Thanks!

                    Marin

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                    • johnpozJ
                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @MarinSNB
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                      @marinsnb when you do the clean install from the usb, it allows to load the config that is there. So while yes HIGHLY recommend taking a backup of your config from the gui before you start the process. You really shouldn't have to load your config from backup, if it can read your config from the disk.

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                      • MarinSNBM
                        MarinSNB @johnpoz
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                        @johnpoz

                        Wonderful! I just read your suggestion on this on another post regarding zfs install! Thanks so much as always!

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                        • chudakC
                          chudak @JeGr
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                          @jegr said in Upgrade to ZFS:

                          @ryanm said in Upgrade to ZFS:

                          Re-installation with "recover config.xml" and "Auto (ZFS)" will bring you up to speed and having ZFS in ~10min. :)

                          I am reading to upgrade UFS to ZFS
                          I never was able for some reason to do a reinstall with the "recover config.xml" option in one step :(

                          Wonder if you know any secrets/suggestions?

                          I did do a new install and then restore XML via the GUI fine though.

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                            rcoleman-netgate Netgate @chudak
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                            @chudak said in Upgrade to ZFS:

                            I never was able for some reason to do a reinstall with the "recover config.xml" option in one step :(
                            Wonder if you know any secrets/suggestions?

                            I finally did this without trying. After writing the image to the USB mount it back up with the FAT32 partition and copy the config file to it as "config.xml" and that's all it took for my system last week.

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                              chudak @rcoleman-netgate
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                              @rcoleman-netgate said in Upgrade to ZFS:

                              @chudak said in Upgrade to ZFS:

                              I never was able for some reason to do a reinstall with the "recover config.xml" option in one step :(
                              Wonder if you know any secrets/suggestions?

                              I finally did this without trying. After writing the image to the USB mount it back up with the FAT32 partition and copy the config file to it as "config.xml" and that's all it took for my system last week.

                              I did not quite get it. Why are you referring to FAT32?

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                                rcoleman-netgate Netgate @chudak
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                                @chudak When you write the pfSense image to a USB drive it makes two partitions... one is FAT and has nothing, or nearly nothing, in it. That's where you put the config.xml.

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                                • chudakC
                                  chudak @rcoleman-netgate
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                                  @rcoleman-netgate said in Upgrade to ZFS:

                                  @chudak When you write the pfSense image to a USB drive it makes two partitions... one is FAT and has nothing, or nearly nothing, in it. That's where you put the config.xml.

                                  Thank you!

                                  I don't seem to be able to locate pFS+ download, do I need to get CE and then again upgrade it to pFS+ ?

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                                  • johnpozJ
                                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @chudak
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                                    @chudak said in Upgrade to ZFS:

                                    I don't seem to be able to locate pFS+ download

                                    Do you have a netgate appliance? If so you can request a download of the install img, if your on 3rd party hardware and want to move to +, then yeah you would be on 2.6 and request + license.

                                    https://www.netgate.com/blog/migrate-from-pfsense-ce-software-to-netgate-pfsense-plus-software

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                                    • chudakC
                                      chudak @johnpoz
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                                      @johnpoz said in Upgrade to ZFS:

                                      @chudak said in Upgrade to ZFS:

                                      I don't seem to be able to locate pFS+ download

                                      Do you have a netgate appliance? If so you can request a download of the install img, if your on 3rd party hardware and want to move to +, then yeah you would be on 2.6 and request + license.

                                      https://www.netgate.com/blog/migrate-from-pfsense-ce-software-to-netgate-pfsense-plus-software

                                      I don't have a netgate appliance, but I already upgraded to 22.01.
                                      I need to start from 2.6 and then upgrade to 22.01?

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                                      • johnpozJ
                                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @chudak
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                                        @chudak to do a clean install? Yeah I think that is the only way.. That came up in another thread I think as well..

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                                          rcoleman-netgate Netgate @johnpoz
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                                          @johnpoz This is a correct statement.

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                                          • chudakC
                                            chudak @rcoleman-netgate
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                                            @rcoleman-netgate

                                            I created a USB stick and see this:

                                            37ee6722-4ab3-42fb-b3c5-f9cfae05fd4b-image.png

                                            I suspect you meant to place config.xml into PFSENSE drive along with README?

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