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    Getting IPv6 SLAAC to work in my network

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    • Bob.DigB
      Bob.Dig LAYER 8 @IonutIT
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      @ionutit said in Getting IPv6 SLAAC to work in my network:

      I haven't touched anything else...

      And non the less there is no way I can think of that pfSense is showing /56 on the Subnet in the DHCPv6 Options for your LAN if you use Track Interface.

      Something is fundamentally wrong in your setup, maybe your running pppoe over your LAN? Really just start fresh is all I can advice you to do.

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        IonutIT @Bob.Dig
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        @bob-dig

        I'm not running PPPoE over my LAN, that's just for WAN.

        The only thing I think it's wrong is the fact that my ISP gives me a /56 even though I ask for a /64. And the Prefix Delegation is assigned to /56 even though I want /64.

        Screenshot 2022-10-15 at 12.25.48.png

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          IonutIT @Bob.Dig
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          @bob-dig

          OK so I finally made it work, but in a very weird way.

          Seeing as when I set "64" in WAN settings "DHCPv6 Prefix Delegation size" gave me an actual /56 network for my LAN interface, I tried to set that to "56" (against the information that is handed out by my ISP), and sure enough, I instantly got a /64 network for my LAN interface and SLAAC magically started working.

          Can't really explain why that worked, but I won't complain.

          Screenshot 2022-10-15 at 13.39.31.png

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            Bob.Dig LAYER 8 @IonutIT
            last edited by Bob.Dig

            @ionutit said in Getting IPv6 SLAAC to work in my network:

            Can't really explain why that worked, but I won't complain.

            Interesting! Still won't explain the ULA on your LAN but at least you're making some progress.

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              IonutIT @Bob.Dig
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              @bob-dig

              Yeah, I have no idea where those ULAs are coming from. It seems that not all my IPv6 enabled devices in my network get 2 IPs, one GUA and one ULA.

              Is there a way to check RA packets and pinpoint the source?

              At the end of the day this is not such a dealbreaker as obviously Internet traffic is passed through the GUA IP.

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                JKnott @IonutIT
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                @ionutit said in Getting IPv6 SLAAC to work in my network:

                And I also get a GUA IPv6 but with a /128 mask again with fe80::1 gateway.
                On the LAN side, I get GUA IPv6 with a /56 subnet which is OK, even though I ask for a /64 (and the ISP itself is saying on it's info page that they give out /64 PD)

                A /128 GUA and link local gateway is entirely normal. Are you sure you get a /56 on the LAN?

                but those PDs are dynamic, and if I disconnect for any reason I will get a new prefix delegation so that field needs to be manually updated.

                Have you selected Do not allow PD/Address release on the WAN page?

                PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
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                  JKnott @IonutIT
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                  @ionutit said in Getting IPv6 SLAAC to work in my network:

                  Is there a way to check RA packets and pinpoint the source?

                  Do a packet capture and check the MAC.

                  PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                  i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                  UniFi AC-Lite access point

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                    IonutIT @JKnott
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                    @jknott said in Getting IPv6 SLAAC to work in my network:

                    Are you sure you get a /56 on the LAN?

                    Yeah, for some strange and weird reason, when I set my Prefix Delegation size to 64 in WAN settings page, I always got a /56 assigned to my LAN (interface was set to tracking).

                    But as I mentioned in my last post, when I set the PD size to 56 (against what my ISP has informed me I should use) I immediately got a /64 assigned to my LAN and SLAAC started working.

                    Now I just need to find the source of these ULA addresses that my network gets, it's going to be a pain to find them, but fortunately it doesn't really impact my ability to go online though IPv6.

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                    • JKnottJ
                      JKnott @IonutIT
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                      @ionutit said in Getting IPv6 SLAAC to work in my network:

                      But as I mentioned in my last post, when I set the PD size to 56 (against what my ISP has informed me I should use) I immediately got a /64 assigned to my LAN and SLAAC started working.

                      56 on the WAN is normal. That's what I have here. This way, you have up to 256 /64s to use.

                      As for the RAs, as I said, do a packet capture to see the MAC address, from which you can identify the device.

                      PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                      i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                      UniFi AC-Lite access point

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                        IonutIT @JKnott
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                        @jknott

                        I'm trying to do that, but I might be doing it wrong.

                        So I'm running Wireshark on the ens0 (Ethernet port on my Mac Mini) and filtering for

                        icmpv6.type == 134

                        But all my outputs are showing fe80: link-local source and destination. I can't catch the fdcd: ULA anywhere.

                        Any pointers on how I should sniff for that?

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                          Bob.Dig LAYER 8 @IonutIT
                          last edited by Bob.Dig

                          @ionutit In the end, you can not filter "local" traffic in one subnet anyway, only something routed through the firewall can be filtered. So as long as this (apple-)device is only member of one subnet, it shouldn't matter. I hope you have more than one LAN because otherwise the firewall isn't doing much for you.

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                            IonutIT @Bob.Dig
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                            @bob-dig

                            Yeah, at the end of the day I don’t really mind having this ULA network as it’s not routed outside.

                            Only thing that bugged me is that hosts use this ULA range for mDNS updates. I had to create a firewall rule to allow “any” to “ff02::fb” on UDP 5353.

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                              JKnott @IonutIT
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                              @ionutit

                              I think you'll find capture filters work better than display filters. Capture filters affect what's captured and display filters affect what packets of the capture are displayed. Of course, you can use both for more flexibility. However, I mostly use capture filters. So, you'd filter on ICMP6, which should capture all ICMP6 packets. Once you have some of those, you can use display filters. However, just capturing ICMP6 and quickly scanning the captured packets should reveal the RAs.

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                              i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                              UniFi AC-Lite access point

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                                JKnott @Bob.Dig
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                                @bob-dig

                                He's running Wireshark, which means he's using a computer on the LAN.

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                                i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                                UniFi AC-Lite access point

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                                  JKnott @IonutIT
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                                  @ionutit said in Getting IPv6 SLAAC to work in my network:

                                  I had to create a firewall rule to allow “any” to “ff02::fb” on UDP 5353.

                                  ????

                                  mDNS is using ff02, which means it's a link local multicast. It's not supposed to pass through a router.

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                                  i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
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                                    IonutIT @JKnott
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                                    @jknott

                                    Yeah but for some reason the source is ULA fdcd:: instead of the link-local address so it does go through the firewall. I think that hosts using mDNS broadcast through all available addresses.

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                                      JKnott @IonutIT
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                                      @ionutit said in Getting IPv6 SLAAC to work in my network:

                                      Yeah but for some reason the source is ULA fdcd:: instead of the link-local address so it does go through the firewall.

                                      That's not an issue. packets for multicast addresses often come from ULA or GUA addresses. Since the address starts with ff02, it's scope is link local and won't pass through the router (pfSense).

                                      IPv6 has address scopes, which IPv4 does not. This means how far a packet can go depends on the destination address. An address that starts with ff02 is link local. Even on IPv4, you can have public or RFC1918 addresses as the source for local network only destinations.

                                      So, even though a router may receive a packet with a ff02 destination, it will not forward it.

                                      PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                                      i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                                      UniFi AC-Lite access point

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                                        IonutIT @JKnott
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                                        @jknott and @Bob-Dig

                                        So after a bit more troubleshooting I finally found the source of my ULA network.

                                        It seems that the RA for this fdcd::/64 ULA network is my Apple TV 4K (2021), and the reason for it doing that is for Thread. Because the device is a Thread bridge, and because this protocol is IPv6 only, it pushes this ULA inside my network to be able to communicate with other Thread enabled devices inside the LAN.

                                        Hopefully this will be helpful for others searching for this issue in the future.

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                                          MarioG @IonutIT
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                                          @ionutit FYI I just read over on the avsforum that tvOS 16.1 beta fixed this. The advertisements stopped.

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                                            IonutIT @MarioG
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                                            @mariog

                                            Really? I wasn’t aware that this was a bug, seeing that Thread needs IPv6 to function.

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