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    Is it possible for one to "slip through"?

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    • OBXJeepGuyO
      OBXJeepGuy @Gertjan
      last edited by OBXJeepGuy

      @gertjan I meant to label everything, but did not. What you are looking at is the custom ipv4 block list in pfBlockerNG. With that in the list, nothing in that range should have gotten past the firewall, yet an ip address from that range came through to my Blue Iris server.

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      • OBXJeepGuyO
        OBXJeepGuy @johnpoz
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        @johnpoz said in Is it possible for one to "slip through"?:

        @gertjan said in Is it possible for one to "slip through"?:

        Another way : a state already existed.

        But was a connection actually made? Or is that what he showing just a connection attempt by the client? Doesn't seem like the session was actually done. There are no frames, there is no time listed for the session, etc. Looks like some sort of connection attempt?

        But sure I would look in the pfsense state table

        No connection was actually made. However, that ip address shouldn't even be able to get that far the way it is set up. Also, I have to look into this "state already existed" everyone is talking about.

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        • johnpozJ
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @OBXJeepGuy
          last edited by

          @obxjeepguy said in Is it possible for one to "slip through"?:

          that ip address shouldn't even be able to get that far the way it is set up.

          But from what you posted I can not really tell if that is outbound connection attempt from inside your network, or a connection attempt from outside pfsense that is forwarded in?

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          • stephenw10S
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
            last edited by

            Yes, more info needed.

            I had assumed that you are forwarding traffic to the BlueIris server and have pfBlocker adding rules to filter that?
            If you are using pfBlocker to automatically add rules make sure it's adding rules where you expect and in the right order.
            Make sure the alias pfBlocker creates actually contains that subnet.

            Steve

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            • OBXJeepGuyO
              OBXJeepGuy
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              1668552951143-screenshot-2022-11-15-at-17-35-02-pfsense.colossus-firewall-pfblockerng-ip-ipv4.png 1668552958928-bi.png

              Okay, hopefully this explains it better. I have been running this firewall for about a year now with great success. Once I block a range, I never see another attempt. This particular one is the first time I have seen something like this happen.

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                last edited by

                But how are you applying that block? What is it blocking, traffic from a port forward to the server?

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                • OBXJeepGuyO
                  OBXJeepGuy @stephenw10
                  last edited by

                  @stephenw10 I am blocking that IP range from anything on my LAN.

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                  • johnpozJ
                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @OBXJeepGuy
                    last edited by johnpoz

                    @obxjeepguy where is the rule?? On your lan? In floating, on your Wan?

                    What are the order of the rules? etc.. For all we know that was the device your showing the 205.x address in trying to make a connection and it didn't work, etc..

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by

                      From connecting to anything on your LAN?

                      Yeah, we need to see the rule and where it's applied really. There are many ways to apply that incorrectly. 😉

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                      • OBXJeepGuyO
                        OBXJeepGuy
                        last edited by

                        I am guessing this is what you are looking for.

                        Screenshot 2022-11-17 at 17-27-47 pfSense.Colossus - Firewall Rules Floating.png

                        Screenshot 2022-11-17 at 17-32-42 pfSense.Colossus - Firewall pfBlockerNG IP.png

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                        • stephenw10S
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @OBXJeepGuy
                          last edited by stephenw10

                          Those all look like the included list names. Is your custom block list added to one of those?

                          Or, what 'list action' do you have set on your custom list?

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                          • OBXJeepGuyO
                            OBXJeepGuy @stephenw10
                            last edited by

                            @stephenw10 The custom block list is within pfB_PRI1_v4.

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                            • stephenw10S
                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                              last edited by

                              Ok, so that would block connections from that subnet inbound on WAN. And since it's a floating rule it would do so before and pass rules you might have on the WAN tab. You haven't explicitly confirmed it but I assume you have a port forward to the server on WAN with linked firewall rules there?

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                              • OBXJeepGuyO
                                OBXJeepGuy @stephenw10
                                last edited by

                                @stephenw10 said in Is it possible for one to "slip through"?:

                                Ok, so that would block connections from that subnet inbound on WAN. And since it's a floating rule it would do so before and pass rules you might have on the WAN tab. You haven't explicitly confirmed it but I assume you have a port forward to the server on WAN with linked firewall rules there?

                                Yes, I do have a port forward going to the server. I should have included that. I’ll post an image as soon as I get back to a PC.

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                                • OBXJeepGuyO
                                  OBXJeepGuy
                                  last edited by

                                  Okay. There it is. Been quite busy at work.

                                  IMG_2676.jpg

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                                  • OBXJeepGuyO
                                    OBXJeepGuy @stephenw10
                                    last edited by

                                    @stephenw10 Now that I look at it, something seems off. I'm not quite sure.

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                                    • johnpozJ
                                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @OBXJeepGuy
                                      last edited by

                                      @obxjeepguy yeah that is not a port forward, that is a allow rule outbound to some 192.168 address, why would you think you need to hide a rfc1918 address.

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                                      • stephenw10S
                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                        last edited by

                                        Yes, very unlikely that rule would ever match anything. You can see no states have been opened by it. I would just disable that.

                                        You can see the port forward in Firewall > NAT > Port Forwards.

                                        The associated firewall rule will be on the WAN tab.

                                        Steve

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                                        • OBXJeepGuyO
                                          OBXJeepGuy @johnpoz
                                          last edited by

                                          @johnpoz said in Is it possible for one to "slip through"?:

                                          @obxjeepguy yeah that is not a port forward, that is a allow rule outbound to some 192.168 address, why would you think you need to hide a rfc1918 address.

                                          You are absolutely correct. And I have disabled it. That is left over from when I fist set everything up, and knew ZERO about pfSense. As for hiding an rfc1918 address, that would be for no apparent reason. Just like the folks who cover their license plates in photos of their cars.

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                                          • johnpozJ
                                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @OBXJeepGuy
                                            last edited by johnpoz

                                            @obxjeepguy said in Is it possible for one to "slip through"?:

                                            Just like the folks who cover their license plates in photos of their cars.

                                            No not the same - lic number is unique and could be looked up ;)

                                            Rfc1918 space used by everyone.. It would be like telling you I live on the planet earth ;) could you find me with that info hehehe

                                            My pc is 192.168.9.100, my gateway is 192.168.9.253 - does that give you any info at all that could be used to track me to where I am exactly, or even what ISP I use, etc.

                                            edit: but knowing what address space is being used can be very helpful in troubleshooting so that easier to understand difference in vlans and why some rfc1918 IP can not talk to another one, etc. When they are obfuscated it can be more difficult understanding quickly what is going on.. While hiding your public IP space is very understandable - when you hide rfc1918 it can get confusing is all. Just something to consider in future posts is all.

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