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    Is it possible for one to "slip through"?

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    • OBXJeepGuyO
      OBXJeepGuy @johnpoz
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      @johnpoz said in Is it possible for one to "slip through"?:

      @gertjan said in Is it possible for one to "slip through"?:

      Another way : a state already existed.

      But was a connection actually made? Or is that what he showing just a connection attempt by the client? Doesn't seem like the session was actually done. There are no frames, there is no time listed for the session, etc. Looks like some sort of connection attempt?

      But sure I would look in the pfsense state table

      No connection was actually made. However, that ip address shouldn't even be able to get that far the way it is set up. Also, I have to look into this "state already existed" everyone is talking about.

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      • johnpozJ
        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @OBXJeepGuy
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        @obxjeepguy said in Is it possible for one to "slip through"?:

        that ip address shouldn't even be able to get that far the way it is set up.

        But from what you posted I can not really tell if that is outbound connection attempt from inside your network, or a connection attempt from outside pfsense that is forwarded in?

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        • stephenw10S
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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          Yes, more info needed.

          I had assumed that you are forwarding traffic to the BlueIris server and have pfBlocker adding rules to filter that?
          If you are using pfBlocker to automatically add rules make sure it's adding rules where you expect and in the right order.
          Make sure the alias pfBlocker creates actually contains that subnet.

          Steve

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          • OBXJeepGuyO
            OBXJeepGuy
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            Okay, hopefully this explains it better. I have been running this firewall for about a year now with great success. Once I block a range, I never see another attempt. This particular one is the first time I have seen something like this happen.

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            • stephenw10S
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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              But how are you applying that block? What is it blocking, traffic from a port forward to the server?

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              • OBXJeepGuyO
                OBXJeepGuy @stephenw10
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                @stephenw10 I am blocking that IP range from anything on my LAN.

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                • johnpozJ
                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @OBXJeepGuy
                  last edited by johnpoz

                  @obxjeepguy where is the rule?? On your lan? In floating, on your Wan?

                  What are the order of the rules? etc.. For all we know that was the device your showing the 205.x address in trying to make a connection and it didn't work, etc..

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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                    From connecting to anything on your LAN?

                    Yeah, we need to see the rule and where it's applied really. There are many ways to apply that incorrectly. 😉

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                    • OBXJeepGuyO
                      OBXJeepGuy
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                      I am guessing this is what you are looking for.

                      Screenshot 2022-11-17 at 17-27-47 pfSense.Colossus - Firewall Rules Floating.png

                      Screenshot 2022-11-17 at 17-32-42 pfSense.Colossus - Firewall pfBlockerNG IP.png

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @OBXJeepGuy
                        last edited by stephenw10

                        Those all look like the included list names. Is your custom block list added to one of those?

                        Or, what 'list action' do you have set on your custom list?

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                        • OBXJeepGuyO
                          OBXJeepGuy @stephenw10
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                          @stephenw10 The custom block list is within pfB_PRI1_v4.

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                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                            Ok, so that would block connections from that subnet inbound on WAN. And since it's a floating rule it would do so before and pass rules you might have on the WAN tab. You haven't explicitly confirmed it but I assume you have a port forward to the server on WAN with linked firewall rules there?

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                            • OBXJeepGuyO
                              OBXJeepGuy @stephenw10
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                              @stephenw10 said in Is it possible for one to "slip through"?:

                              Ok, so that would block connections from that subnet inbound on WAN. And since it's a floating rule it would do so before and pass rules you might have on the WAN tab. You haven't explicitly confirmed it but I assume you have a port forward to the server on WAN with linked firewall rules there?

                              Yes, I do have a port forward going to the server. I should have included that. I’ll post an image as soon as I get back to a PC.

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                              • OBXJeepGuyO
                                OBXJeepGuy
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                                Okay. There it is. Been quite busy at work.

                                IMG_2676.jpg

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                                • OBXJeepGuyO
                                  OBXJeepGuy @stephenw10
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                                  @stephenw10 Now that I look at it, something seems off. I'm not quite sure.

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                                  • johnpozJ
                                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @OBXJeepGuy
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                                    @obxjeepguy yeah that is not a port forward, that is a allow rule outbound to some 192.168 address, why would you think you need to hide a rfc1918 address.

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                                    • stephenw10S
                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                      Yes, very unlikely that rule would ever match anything. You can see no states have been opened by it. I would just disable that.

                                      You can see the port forward in Firewall > NAT > Port Forwards.

                                      The associated firewall rule will be on the WAN tab.

                                      Steve

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                                      • OBXJeepGuyO
                                        OBXJeepGuy @johnpoz
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                                        @johnpoz said in Is it possible for one to "slip through"?:

                                        @obxjeepguy yeah that is not a port forward, that is a allow rule outbound to some 192.168 address, why would you think you need to hide a rfc1918 address.

                                        You are absolutely correct. And I have disabled it. That is left over from when I fist set everything up, and knew ZERO about pfSense. As for hiding an rfc1918 address, that would be for no apparent reason. Just like the folks who cover their license plates in photos of their cars.

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                                        • johnpozJ
                                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @OBXJeepGuy
                                          last edited by johnpoz

                                          @obxjeepguy said in Is it possible for one to "slip through"?:

                                          Just like the folks who cover their license plates in photos of their cars.

                                          No not the same - lic number is unique and could be looked up ;)

                                          Rfc1918 space used by everyone.. It would be like telling you I live on the planet earth ;) could you find me with that info hehehe

                                          My pc is 192.168.9.100, my gateway is 192.168.9.253 - does that give you any info at all that could be used to track me to where I am exactly, or even what ISP I use, etc.

                                          edit: but knowing what address space is being used can be very helpful in troubleshooting so that easier to understand difference in vlans and why some rfc1918 IP can not talk to another one, etc. When they are obfuscated it can be more difficult understanding quickly what is going on.. While hiding your public IP space is very understandable - when you hide rfc1918 it can get confusing is all. Just something to consider in future posts is all.

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                                          • OBXJeepGuyO
                                            OBXJeepGuy @johnpoz
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                                            @johnpoz said in Is it possible for one to "slip through"?:

                                            @obxjeepguy said in Is it possible for one to "slip through"?:

                                            Just like the folks who cover their license plates in photos of their cars.

                                            No not the same - lic number is unique and could be looked up ;)

                                            Rfc1918 space used by everyone.. It would be like telling you I live on the planet earth ;) could you find me with that info hehehe

                                            My pc is 192.168.9.100, my gateway is 192.168.9.253 - does that give you any info at all that could be used to track me to where I am exactly, or even what ISP I use, etc.

                                            All very true. I was always told to not even let any of those numbers out. Especially port numbers. I know the only way is if I knew your public IP address. So that being said, I will get on with port forwarding, and @stephenw10 will see there is a linked rule.

                                            Screenshot 2022-11-19 at 08-29-35 pfSense.Colossus - Firewall NAT Port Forward.png

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