Watchguard Firebox M400/M500
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Sorry should of been a bit more specific one has model number KL5AE8 which is the M400 afaik but then i seen NC2AE8 badged as a M400 aswell unless its an error in the listing?
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NC2AE8 is the XTM5 which is much older device. It uses a Core2duo CPU for example.
The M400 is better in just about every way. Except maybe the lack of an LCD. And whether you consider a UEFI BIOS an advantage!
Steve
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@stephenw10 uefi bios has cause nothing but bother in my eyes where stuff would normally just boot you now have to dick around and change stupid settings just to get it boot from a usb
I'm trying to get a good deal on the M400 atm
What's the difference between the M400 to the M500?
Cheers Ollie
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@seacombe2379 said in Watchguard Firebox M400/M500:
What's the difference between the M400 to the M500?
Different CPU. Double the RAM. Check the hardware guide.
Both of which you could swap in anyway.
Steve
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So that's out of Watchguards factory specs but nothing a wee upgrade couldn't fix?
What's the max ram they support? 16gb ddr3?
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Yeah the board and case are identical as far as I know. I've never laid hands on an M500.
If you search this thread I'm sure you'll find someone who has tried 16GB. I've never needed that.
Steve
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@stephenw10 Cheers Steve I will confirm once I get my hands on one I have a few combinations of ram lying around
Regards the console is it only rj45? Is there an internal serial at all I can't remember if that was said? I know there is a internal VGA.
What's the best usb to rj45 serial that people use?
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Yes, it's only the RJ-45 console port. I've used a variety of whatever I had in hand and they've all worked.
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@seacombe2379 said in Watchguard Firebox M400/M500:
What's the best usb to rj45 serial that people use?
I use the same blue one that I use at work on our Cisco stuff.
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I was literally just about to pull the trigger on the Watchguard then a Nomadix AG5800 came up,
As far as I can see there the same inside?!? Correct me if I'm wrong for it for a steal for the price they sell at plus I like the green but red would of been good
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@seacombe2379 said in Watchguard Firebox M400/M500:
I was literally just about to pull the trigger on the Watchguard then a Nomadix AG5800 came up,
Trust me.. there are no Watchguard fan boys here... just the equipment style and layout.. plus it pisses off their management that we repurpose them..
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Does anyone have the stock 4GB ram stick that they'd be willing to part with? I picked up a second unit and plan to set them up in a high availability arrangement but need an additional stick of ram
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@scorch95 I got the original 8 gig (2x 4gig ECC) out of an M500 just sitting here I can get rid of... I sent you a chat.
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@chpalmer yeah I gathered that by the way they lock everything down on them and use stupid reverse pcie connectors
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@seacombe2379 said in Watchguard Firebox M400/M500:
stupid reverse pcie connectors
Those are standard the Lanner devices to be fair.
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@stephenw10 said in Watchguard Firebox M400/M500:
@seacombe2379 said in Watchguard Firebox M400/M500:
stupid reverse pcie connectors
Those are stupid on the Lanner devices to be fair.
There.. fixed that for ya! ;) :)
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Ha!
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Hey all, I read through this thread till about number 300, I figured there was much smarter people on here that could help me out. Came into an M400 for free, want to load pfsense on it. What I gather from here (correct me if I'm wrong) but there is two ways that people have had success with: load an SSD and connect to Sata port and boot with the CF card removed or unlock the bios flash from CF card.
What are people thinking about upgraded processor, worth it or not? What have been some processor people have like and worked well for them?
Thanks in advance
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@nd-t it looks like you and I are in the same boat here, how did this work out for you?
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You can also just run from the CF card if you have something else to install onto it with. But be sure to use UFS, disable SWAP during the install and enable RAM disks after install if you do.
4th gen CPUs are cheap (some are very cheap!) and almost all are an upgrade from the Celeron fitted in every way. The only thing to look out for is that many cause the unit to fail to reboot for some reason which is a PITA. Search the thread for specifics.
