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    • chpalmerC
      chpalmer @seacombe2379
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      @seacombe2379 said in Watchguard Firebox M400/M500:

      I was literally just about to pull the trigger on the Watchguard then a Nomadix AG5800 came up,

      Trust me.. there are no Watchguard fan boys here... just the equipment style and layout.. plus it pisses off their management that we repurpose them..

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      Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4590T CPU @ 2.00GHz on an M400 WG box.

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        Scorch95 @stephenw10
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        Does anyone have the stock 4GB ram stick that they'd be willing to part with? I picked up a second unit and plan to set them up in a high availability arrangement but need an additional stick of ram

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          jutg987654321 @Scorch95
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          @scorch95 I got the original 8 gig (2x 4gig ECC) out of an M500 just sitting here I can get rid of... I sent you a chat.

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            seacombe2379 @chpalmer
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            @chpalmer yeah I gathered that by the way they lock everything down on them and use stupid reverse pcie connectors 😬

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            • stephenw10S
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @seacombe2379
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              @seacombe2379 said in Watchguard Firebox M400/M500:

              stupid reverse pcie connectors

              Those are standard the Lanner devices to be fair.

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              • chpalmerC
                chpalmer @stephenw10
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                @stephenw10 said in Watchguard Firebox M400/M500:

                @seacombe2379 said in Watchguard Firebox M400/M500:

                stupid reverse pcie connectors

                Those are stupid on the Lanner devices to be fair.

                There.. fixed that for ya! ;) :)

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                Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4590T CPU @ 2.00GHz on an M400 WG box.

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                • stephenw10S
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                  Ha!

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                    JackMeyer
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                    Hey all, I read through this thread till about number 300, I figured there was much smarter people on here that could help me out. Came into an M400 for free, want to load pfsense on it. What I gather from here (correct me if I'm wrong) but there is two ways that people have had success with: load an SSD and connect to Sata port and boot with the CF card removed or unlock the bios flash from CF card.

                    What are people thinking about upgraded processor, worth it or not? What have been some processor people have like and worked well for them?

                    Thanks in advance

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                      JackMeyer @nd-t
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                      @nd-t it looks like you and I are in the same boat here, how did this work out for you?

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                        You can also just run from the CF card if you have something else to install onto it with. But be sure to use UFS, disable SWAP during the install and enable RAM disks after install if you do.

                        4th gen CPUs are cheap (some are very cheap!) and almost all are an upgrade from the Celeron fitted in every way. The only thing to look out for is that many cause the unit to fail to reboot for some reason which is a PITA. Search the thread for specifics.

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                          JackMeyer @stephenw10
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                          @stephenw10 is this assuming I have or will have to have the bios unlocked to boot from CF and disable SWAP?

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                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                            No it will boot from CF without any BIOS changes. It will run fine but upgrades are painful because CF is slow as hell!

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                              JackMeyer @stephenw10
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                              @stephenw10 haha that makes sense. Thanks for info, Im excited to get this thing going.

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                              • chpalmerC
                                chpalmer
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                                I just installed a Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4590T CPU @ 2.00GHz in my M400.. It had been running the original Celeron G1820 until this last week.

                                Boots a bit faster.. has AES-NI now.. 4 cores now.. shows running cooler since the fans seem to be actively adjusting their speeds now. fans were always slow before.. even in the summer.

                                The fans are a bit more noisy and constantly adjusting now which they never did when the Celeron was in place. Celeron showed constant 40c to 45c depending on weather here.. The i5 is a constant 39c.

                                I have an updated BIOS on the board but cannot find the speed controls.. anyone remember where they are supposed to be?

                                I want to adjust them more to be constant than the up and down they are doing now.

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                                • stephenw10S
                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                  The fan speed controls? They should be there under thermal control. Not much to play with though IIRC.

                                  Does it reboot correctly with that CPU?

                                  Steve

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                                    MH 0 @chpalmer
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                                    @chpalmer I'd replace the existing fans, they are incredibly noisy at most speeds, if you find my posts above I posted a link to the Nocturnas that fit.

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                                    • chpalmerC
                                      chpalmer @stephenw10
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                                      @stephenw10 Seems to boot fine. Freakin fast compared..

                                      ioapic0 <Version 2.0> irqs 0-23 on motherboard
                                      random: unblocking device.
                                      FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 4 core(s)
                                      FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs
                                      ACPI APIC Table: <ALASKA A M I>
                                      Event timer "LAPIC" quality 600
                                      avail memory = 6095597568 (5813 MB)
                                      real memory = 6442450944 (6144 MB)
                                      TSC: P-state invariant, performance statistics
                                      VT-x: PAT,HLT,MTF,PAUSE,EPT,UG,VPID
                                      XSAVE Features=0x1<XSAVEOPT>
                                      Structured Extended Features3=0xc000000<IBPB,STIBP>
                                      Structured Extended Features=0x27ab<FSGSBASE,TSCADJ,BMI1,AVX2,SMEP,BMI2,ERMS,INVPCID,NFPUSG>
                                      AMD Features2=0x21<LAHF,ABM>
                                      AMD Features=0x2c100800<SYSCALL,NX,Page1GB,RDTSCP,LM>
                                      Features2=0x7ffafbff<SSE3,PCLMULQDQ,DTES64,MON,DS_CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,SDBG,FMA,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,MOVBE,POPCNT,TSCDLT,AESNI,XSAVE,OSXSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND>
                                      Features=0xbfebfbff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE>
                                      Origin="GenuineIntel" Id=0x306c3 Family=0x6 Model=0x3c Stepping=3
                                      CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4590T CPU @ 2.00GHz (2000.04-MHz K8-class CPU)

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                                      • chpalmerC
                                        chpalmer @MH 0
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                                        @mh-0

                                        Thanks.. I actually ordered three of those fans today so will try them.

                                        I also replaced the version of WGXepc64 that I was running as it seems I was on a pre-m400 version.. So I can adjust my fans with that instead of mussing with BIOS.

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                                        • stephenw10S
                                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @chpalmer
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                                          @chpalmer said in Watchguard Firebox M400/M500:

                                          @stephenw10 Seems to boot fine. Freakin fast compared..

                                          But does it reboot though? There are a large number of 4th gen CPUs that just hang at reboot even with a different BIOS etc. The i3-4160 I have does not reboot for example and that makes it painful for anything!

                                          Steve

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                                          • chpalmerC
                                            chpalmer @stephenw10
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                                            @stephenw10

                                            But does it reboot though?

                                            I did a reboot this morning via the GUI "reroot" reboot. Came up fine. Is there another method you want me to try? This one is my primary firewall and I have to do things after hours unless I want to join "wine hour" here.. and Im fresh out of cheese.

                                            (for those already typing.. yes I know how to spell whine. ;) )

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