Netgate Discussion Forum
    • Categories
    • Recent
    • Tags
    • Popular
    • Users
    • Search
    • Register
    • Login

    Watchguard Firebox M400/M500

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Hardware
    584 Posts 58 Posters 678.9k Views
    Loading More Posts
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as topic
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • stephenw10S
      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
      last edited by

      Yeah the board and case are identical as far as I know. I've never laid hands on an M500.

      If you search this thread I'm sure you'll find someone who has tried 16GB. I've never needed that.

      Steve

      S S 2 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 0
      • S
        seacombe2379 @stephenw10
        last edited by

        @stephenw10 Cheers Steve I will confirm once I get my hands on one I have a few combinations of ram lying around ๐Ÿ˜

        Regards the console is it only rj45? Is there an internal serial at all I can't remember if that was said? I know there is a internal VGA.

        What's the best usb to rj45 serial that people use?

        chpalmerC 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
        • stephenw10S
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
          last edited by

          Yes, it's only the RJ-45 console port. I've used a variety of whatever I had in hand and they've all worked.

          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
          • chpalmerC
            chpalmer @seacombe2379
            last edited by

            @seacombe2379 said in Watchguard Firebox M400/M500:

            What's the best usb to rj45 serial that people use?

            I use the same blue one that I use at work on our Cisco stuff.

            Triggering snowflakes one by one..
            Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4590T CPU @ 2.00GHz on an M400 WG box.

            S 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
            • S
              seacombe2379 @chpalmer
              last edited by

              I was literally just about to pull the trigger on the Watchguard then a Nomadix AG5800 came up,

              As far as I can see there the same inside?!? Correct me if I'm wrong for it for a steal for the price they sell at plus I like the green but red would of been good ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜ redirect me to the nomadix thread if you want ๐Ÿคฃ

              chpalmerC 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
              • chpalmerC
                chpalmer @seacombe2379
                last edited by

                @seacombe2379 said in Watchguard Firebox M400/M500:

                I was literally just about to pull the trigger on the Watchguard then a Nomadix AG5800 came up,

                Trust me.. there are no Watchguard fan boys here... just the equipment style and layout.. plus it pisses off their management that we repurpose them..

                Triggering snowflakes one by one..
                Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4590T CPU @ 2.00GHz on an M400 WG box.

                S 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                • S
                  Scorch95 @stephenw10
                  last edited by

                  Does anyone have the stock 4GB ram stick that they'd be willing to part with? I picked up a second unit and plan to set them up in a high availability arrangement but need an additional stick of ram

                  J 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                  • J
                    jutg987654321 @Scorch95
                    last edited by

                    @scorch95 I got the original 8 gig (2x 4gig ECC) out of an M500 just sitting here I can get rid of... I sent you a chat.

                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                    • S
                      seacombe2379 @chpalmer
                      last edited by

                      @chpalmer yeah I gathered that by the way they lock everything down on them and use stupid reverse pcie connectors ๐Ÿ˜ฌ

                      stephenw10S 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @seacombe2379
                        last edited by

                        @seacombe2379 said in Watchguard Firebox M400/M500:

                        stupid reverse pcie connectors

                        Those are standard the Lanner devices to be fair.

                        chpalmerC 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                        • chpalmerC
                          chpalmer @stephenw10
                          last edited by chpalmer

                          @stephenw10 said in Watchguard Firebox M400/M500:

                          @seacombe2379 said in Watchguard Firebox M400/M500:

                          stupid reverse pcie connectors

                          Those are stupid on the Lanner devices to be fair.

                          There.. fixed that for ya! ;) :)

                          Triggering snowflakes one by one..
                          Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4590T CPU @ 2.00GHz on an M400 WG box.

                          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                            last edited by

                            Ha!

                            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                            • J
                              JackMeyer
                              last edited by

                              Hey all, I read through this thread till about number 300, I figured there was much smarter people on here that could help me out. Came into an M400 for free, want to load pfsense on it. What I gather from here (correct me if I'm wrong) but there is two ways that people have had success with: load an SSD and connect to Sata port and boot with the CF card removed or unlock the bios flash from CF card.

                              What are people thinking about upgraded processor, worth it or not? What have been some processor people have like and worked well for them?

                              Thanks in advance

                              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                              • J
                                JackMeyer @nd-t
                                last edited by

                                @nd-t it looks like you and I are in the same boat here, how did this work out for you?

                                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                • stephenw10S
                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                  last edited by

                                  You can also just run from the CF card if you have something else to install onto it with. But be sure to use UFS, disable SWAP during the install and enable RAM disks after install if you do.

                                  4th gen CPUs are cheap (some are very cheap!) and almost all are an upgrade from the Celeron fitted in every way. The only thing to look out for is that many cause the unit to fail to reboot for some reason which is a PITA. Search the thread for specifics.

                                  J 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                  • J
                                    JackMeyer @stephenw10
                                    last edited by

                                    @stephenw10 is this assuming I have or will have to have the bios unlocked to boot from CF and disable SWAP?

                                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                    • stephenw10S
                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                      last edited by

                                      No it will boot from CF without any BIOS changes. It will run fine but upgrades are painful because CF is slow as hell!

                                      J 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                      • J
                                        JackMeyer @stephenw10
                                        last edited by

                                        @stephenw10 haha that makes sense. Thanks for info, Im excited to get this thing going.

                                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                        • NollipfSenseN NollipfSense referenced this topic on
                                        • NollipfSenseN NollipfSense referenced this topic on
                                        • NollipfSenseN NollipfSense referenced this topic on
                                        • chpalmerC
                                          chpalmer
                                          last edited by

                                          I just installed a Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4590T CPU @ 2.00GHz in my M400.. It had been running the original Celeron G1820 until this last week.

                                          Boots a bit faster.. has AES-NI now.. 4 cores now.. shows running cooler since the fans seem to be actively adjusting their speeds now. fans were always slow before.. even in the summer.

                                          The fans are a bit more noisy and constantly adjusting now which they never did when the Celeron was in place. Celeron showed constant 40c to 45c depending on weather here.. The i5 is a constant 39c.

                                          I have an updated BIOS on the board but cannot find the speed controls.. anyone remember where they are supposed to be?

                                          I want to adjust them more to be constant than the up and down they are doing now.

                                          Triggering snowflakes one by one..
                                          Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4590T CPU @ 2.00GHz on an M400 WG box.

                                          M 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                          • stephenw10S
                                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                            last edited by

                                            The fan speed controls? They should be there under thermal control. Not much to play with though IIRC.

                                            Does it reboot correctly with that CPU?

                                            Steve

                                            chpalmerC 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                            • First post
                                              Last post
                                            Copyright 2025 Rubicon Communications LLC (Netgate). All rights reserved.