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      Jarhead @darktech311
      last edited by Jarhead

      @darktech311 said in need help setting up!!!:

      @jarhead i have netgear moden and seperate netgaer wifi router

      modem is CM1000v2

      router is AC2300

      How is the router connected?
      Should be modem right to the pfSense WAN port.

      Also, are you sure the modem has internet?
      They will hand out a private address if there's no internet connected.
      Plug a pc into the modem, power cycle it again, what IP do you get?

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        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Jarhead
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        @jarhead said in need help setting up!!!:

        They will hand out a private address if there's no internet connected.

        Good point - but do they use the 192.168.1 range - everyone I have seen uses 192.168.100 something..

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          Jarhead @johnpoz
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          @johnpoz said in need help setting up!!!:

          @jarhead said in need help setting up!!!:

          They will hand out a private address if there's no internet connected.

          Good point - but do they use the 192.168.1 range - everyone I have seen uses 192.168.100 something..

          Same here but who knows.
          My guess is he has his router between the modem and pfSense.

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            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Jarhead
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            @jarhead said in need help setting up!!!:

            My guess is he has his router between the modem and pfSense.

            My guess as well..

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              SteveITS Galactic Empire @johnpoz
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              "you have chosen to remove the LAN interface" means it was deleted from the console when it wasn't assigned. I would think if OP assigns LAN then it would work, but since the default IP of pfSense LAN is 192.168.1.1 that IP/subnet would need to be changed since it can't be the same as WAN.

              Q: if pfSense is only set up with one interface does it assign its LAN subnet to that interface?

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                Jarhead @SteveITS
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                @steveits said in need help setting up!!!:

                Q: if pfSense is only set up with one interface does it assign its LAN subnet to that interface?

                Can't imagine it would. Don't people use 1 interface with vlans in VM's? Maybe even physical?
                Plus it would then be 192.168.1.1.
                No. I'm sticking with my gut, he still has his router connected.

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                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @SteveITS
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                  @steveits said in need help setting up!!!:

                  one interface does it assign its LAN subnet to that interface?

                  No, it would be wan - but when wan is the only interface it sets rules to be able to access gui from that interface. And as @Jarhead correctly mentions if pfsense was using its default lan IP, then it would be .1 not .199..

                  Something handed his pfsense wan that IP. Now it could be his isp, but that would be very odd.. I guess not impossible that some ISP is handing out 192.168.1 IPs to its users - but wtf?? Why would they not be using the normal CGNat range of 100.64/10 if they didn't have or didn't want to hand out public IPs to their customers.

                  And looking, it sure seems the nighthawk modems, the cm1000 he mentions does use the common 192.168.100 range for addresses. So its not his cable modem handing out rfc1918 when it doesn't have a connection to the isp.

                  https://kb.netgear.com/000059644/How-do-I-log-in-to-my-NETGEAR-cable-modem

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                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                    I imagine it failed to work initially here because the WAN and LAN were using the same subnet.

                    If you reset pfSense to the default config and then changed the LAN to, for example: 172.16.1.1/24
                    If would probably connect OK. It would at least allow access to the gui on the LAN diagnose further.

                    Steve

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                      Jarhead @Jarhead
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                      @jarhead said in need help setting up!!!:

                      @steveits said in need help setting up!!!:

                      Q: if pfSense is only set up with one interface does it assign its LAN subnet to that interface?

                      Can't imagine it would. Don't people use 1 interface with vlans in VM's? Maybe even physical? (yeah, that would then be two interfaces... realized it after I typed it and turned off laptop. ๐Ÿ˜Š
                      Plus it would then be 192.168.1.1.
                      No. I'm sticking with my gut, he still has his router connected.

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                        SteveITS Galactic Empire @Jarhead
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                        @jarhead said in need help setting up!!!:

                        Plus it would then be 192.168.1.1.

                        Yeah, I was just thinking out loud, and I see now it says DHCP so not a user-typed IP.

                        Ultimately it needs a LAN interface to function. :)

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                          darktech311
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                          thanks so much your all the help i finally was able to get the box setup. Also in order to get my wifi router to work do i need to spoof its mac address?

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                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                            last edited by stephenw10

                            No, not between pfSense and a router acting as a wifi access point behind it. There are no restrictions to MAC addresses there.

                            The only MAC requirements would be between pfSense and the modem/ISP.

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                              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @darktech311
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                              @darktech311 said in need help setting up!!!:

                              get my wifi router to work do i need to spoof its mac address?

                              huh? Normally when replacing a wifi router with pfsense the best thing to do would be now to just use your old wifi router as AP. If it does not have that specific mode - any wifi router can be used as just AP.

                              Turn off its dhcp server, set its lan IP to be an IP on your network and connect it to your network via one of its lan ports vs the wifi routers wan port.

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                                darktech311 @johnpoz
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                                @johnpoz ok understood thank you so much for the help!!

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