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    • UnoptanioU
      Unoptanio @w0w
      last edited by

      @w0w

      Greetings,
      As a Windows user and owner of motherboards with integrated i225 and i226 network cards, I know the problems with these cards. But the new released intel drivers are only for windows systems. Are there no chip firmware updates?
      So on BSB14 I have no idea if an updated driver has been released

      pfSensePlus24.03 2U BareMetal Asrock Industrial IMB-X1314MicroATX
      CPU: i7-13700@5.2GHz, RAM:32GB ECC, n°2 Samsung 870EVO SATA 2.5” SSD 1TB (ZFS) Raid1
      n°3 Intel i225-LM 2500/1000/100Mbps, n°1 NIC Intel i350-T4V2 10/100/1000 Mbps 4*GLAN, n°1 Intel X520-DA2

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      • UnoptanioU
        Unoptanio @stephenw10
        last edited by Unoptanio

        @stephenw10 said in Chinese I226-V on 23.05.1, problems:

        8200

        To install pfsense 2.7.0 in a traditional PC, do you know if this card works well? Card PCI Express Intel X710BM2

        Product Description:
        Model number: X710-DA2
        Chipset: Intel X710BM2
        Transmission rate: Up to 10Gb/s per port
        Bus Interface: PCI Express 3.0 X8
        Port configuration: Dual port
        Connector: SFP+ connector
        Bracket: Low profile & Full height
        Accessory: A low profile bracket

        94c47530-8658-487c-9de9-2896f2fd3acc-image.png

        In this moment i have installed:
        N.1 Intel Ethernet I350-T4V2 10/100/1000 Mbps 4*GLAN PCi Ex 2.0 4x

        c47811b2-e244-417f-8f6b-60b59ae7c36e-image.png

        pfSensePlus24.03 2U BareMetal Asrock Industrial IMB-X1314MicroATX
        CPU: i7-13700@5.2GHz, RAM:32GB ECC, n°2 Samsung 870EVO SATA 2.5” SSD 1TB (ZFS) Raid1
        n°3 Intel i225-LM 2500/1000/100Mbps, n°1 NIC Intel i350-T4V2 10/100/1000 Mbps 4*GLAN, n°1 Intel X520-DA2

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          Psych0D0g @Unoptanio
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          @Unoptanio should work i use a 4 port counterpart of the x710 variant just well

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          • UnoptanioU
            Unoptanio @Psych0D0g
            last edited by

            @Psych0D0g

            I saw that the model "Intel X520-DA2 Intel 82599 10Gbe 2*SFP+ PCi Ex 2.0 8X Bulk" is also on sale, but maybe it's older model .

            Intel X520-DA2 Scheda di rete Intel 82599 10Gbe 2*SFP+ PCi Ex 2.0 8X Bulk
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            pfSensePlus24.03 2U BareMetal Asrock Industrial IMB-X1314MicroATX
            CPU: i7-13700@5.2GHz, RAM:32GB ECC, n°2 Samsung 870EVO SATA 2.5” SSD 1TB (ZFS) Raid1
            n°3 Intel i225-LM 2500/1000/100Mbps, n°1 NIC Intel i350-T4V2 10/100/1000 Mbps 4*GLAN, n°1 Intel X520-DA2

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              Psych0D0g @Unoptanio
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              @Unoptanio sorry, no experience with the x520 chipset here

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                last edited by

                X520 NICs usually work well, I have one. They use the ixgbe driver instead of the ixl driver for the X710. Both shoudl work fine in pfSense.

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                • UnoptanioU
                  Unoptanio @stephenw10
                  last edited by Unoptanio

                  @stephenw10

                  Between these 3 motherboards which one would you choose to install pfsense? opinion based on the integrated network cards

                  https://www.asrockind.com/en-gb/product-compare/96

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                  Network card Marvell AQC113 with 10/100/1000/2500/10000 Mbps works properly with pfsense 2.7.0?

                  pfSensePlus24.03 2U BareMetal Asrock Industrial IMB-X1314MicroATX
                  CPU: i7-13700@5.2GHz, RAM:32GB ECC, n°2 Samsung 870EVO SATA 2.5” SSD 1TB (ZFS) Raid1
                  n°3 Intel i225-LM 2500/1000/100Mbps, n°1 NIC Intel i350-T4V2 10/100/1000 Mbps 4*GLAN, n°1 Intel X520-DA2

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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by

                    There is no Aquatia driver in the 2.7 kernel. There is a kmod pkg that may or may not support that. That package is not in out repo though:
                    https://www.freshports.org/net/aquantia-atlantic-kmod/

                    Steve

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                    • w0wW
                      w0w @Unoptanio
                      last edited by

                      @Unoptanio said in Chinese I226-V on 23.05.1, problems:

                      Marvell AQC113

                      I don't know how well it is supported today, but several years ago it was a pure lottery with Aquantia.

                      I purchased https://www.ebay.com/itm/195858888441 those. This is original Intel cards with verification label on it, at least I got two of them. Replaced thermal grease, one of them looked like not used at all. Updated firmware to the latest available from Intel, both are now working fine… Just read https://forum.netgate.com/topic/146913/nbase-t-support-for-intel-x550/53 if you will buy it.

                      @Unoptanio said in Chinese I226-V on 23.05.1, problems:

                      Between these 3 motherboards
                      imb-x1314

                      Maybe Netgate 4100?
                      You can also look at N100 based mini PCs and Protectli solutions.

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @w0w
                        last edited by

                        @w0w said in Chinese I226-V on 23.05.1, problems:

                        I don't know how well it is supported today, but several years ago it was a pure lottery with Aquantia.

                        Yeah, and it looks like not yet to me:
                        https://github.com/Aquantia/aqtion-freebsd/blob/master/aq_main.c#L92

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                        • UnoptanioU
                          Unoptanio @w0w
                          last edited by

                          @w0w
                          it's amazing how many fake network cards there are out there. Especially the Chinese that pass for $100 Intel.
                          The most counterfeit, the I350T4, after a short time of use no longer work.

                          https://forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/comparison-intel-i350-t4-genuine-vs-fake.6917/

                          pfSensePlus24.03 2U BareMetal Asrock Industrial IMB-X1314MicroATX
                          CPU: i7-13700@5.2GHz, RAM:32GB ECC, n°2 Samsung 870EVO SATA 2.5” SSD 1TB (ZFS) Raid1
                          n°3 Intel i225-LM 2500/1000/100Mbps, n°1 NIC Intel i350-T4V2 10/100/1000 Mbps 4*GLAN, n°1 Intel X520-DA2

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                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                            last edited by

                            Yup. Used OEM rebranded cards are usually a much better buy for that reason:
                            https://forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/list-of-nics-and-their-equivalent-oem-parts.20974/

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                            • w0wW
                              w0w @Unoptanio
                              last edited by

                              @Unoptanio
                              Not sure is it actual now, those fake cards. My experience is that, what you have on the modern market, even if we are talking about Ali or any other big, then if we don't look at on the cheapest shit. Then mostly what we have is OEM branded Intel like Dell/HP used cards removed from servers in unknown condition and custom firmware that is mostly outdated if we compare it to Intel original. For the entry level as I350 I have one Chinese card that was working about 5 years and replaced just because I upgraded to higher speeds. If we are talking about i225/226/2xx then there are no cards from intel at all, those chips are embedded solution for the motherboards. But there are a lot of custom variants stand-alone cards, and I think not all of them are bad or fake.
                              But if you want to go with reliable solution, then you should buy some new well known from a reliable supplier.

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                              • UnoptanioU
                                Unoptanio @w0w
                                last edited by

                                @w0w

                                At the moment I have an original Intel I350-T4V2 network card paid in Italy for € 359.
                                I would say quite expensive

                                pfSensePlus24.03 2U BareMetal Asrock Industrial IMB-X1314MicroATX
                                CPU: i7-13700@5.2GHz, RAM:32GB ECC, n°2 Samsung 870EVO SATA 2.5” SSD 1TB (ZFS) Raid1
                                n°3 Intel i225-LM 2500/1000/100Mbps, n°1 NIC Intel i350-T4V2 10/100/1000 Mbps 4*GLAN, n°1 Intel X520-DA2

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                                • UnoptanioU
                                  Unoptanio @Unoptanio
                                  last edited by Unoptanio

                                  @w0w

                                  Can we trust these cards?

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                                  https://it.aliexpress.com/item/1005005555386876.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.0.0.133eM02OM02OJ7&gps-id=pcDetailTopMoreOtherSeller&scm=1007.40050.354490.0&scm_id=1007.40050.354490.0&scm-url=1007.40050.354490.0&pvid=b18994b2-888a-4e8a-9609-73f3dd8a9350&_t=gps-id:pcDetailTopMoreOtherSeller,scm-url:1007.40050.354490.0,pvid:b18994b2-888a-4e8a-9609-73f3dd8a9350,tpp_buckets:668%232846%238115%232000&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21EUR%2143.16%2115.1%21%21%21328.70%21%21%40211b5e2016951912733636498e1443%2112000033532152942%21rec%21IT%21744027985%21S

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                                  Scheda di rete da 2.5G Intel i226 PCIE a RJ45 100/1000/2500Mbps interfaccia RJ45 LAN adattatore Gigabit Etherent per PC/Desktop per Win

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                                  https://it.aliexpress.com/item/1005005929535264.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.0.0.691e3fafJW4RXl&gps-id=pcDetailTopMoreOtherSeller&scm=1007.40050.354490.0&scm_id=1007.40050.354490.0&scm-url=1007.40050.354490.0&pvid=ae7eec44-ebb4-43c7-9ece-60a95b450ba5&_t=gps-id:pcDetailTopMoreOtherSeller,scm-url:1007.40050.354490.0,pvid:ae7eec44-ebb4-43c7-9ece-60a95b450ba5,tpp_buckets:668%232846%238112%231997&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21EUR%2156.17%2115.83%21%21%21427.81%21%21%40211b5e1d16951923413203930e1357%2112000034891978936%21rec%21IT%21%21ABSt

                                  pfSensePlus24.03 2U BareMetal Asrock Industrial IMB-X1314MicroATX
                                  CPU: i7-13700@5.2GHz, RAM:32GB ECC, n°2 Samsung 870EVO SATA 2.5” SSD 1TB (ZFS) Raid1
                                  n°3 Intel i225-LM 2500/1000/100Mbps, n°1 NIC Intel i350-T4V2 10/100/1000 Mbps 4*GLAN, n°1 Intel X520-DA2

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                                  • stephenw10S
                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                    last edited by

                                    'Trust' how? I have a card similar to that I bought from ebay. It shows up as an i225-V and works fine where I've used it.

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                                    • UnoptanioU
                                      Unoptanio @stephenw10
                                      last edited by Unoptanio

                                      @stephenw10

                                      Trust, in the sense that they really cost too little.
                                      Will they be rubbish?

                                      For the price they cost I'll give it a try

                                      pfSensePlus24.03 2U BareMetal Asrock Industrial IMB-X1314MicroATX
                                      CPU: i7-13700@5.2GHz, RAM:32GB ECC, n°2 Samsung 870EVO SATA 2.5” SSD 1TB (ZFS) Raid1
                                      n°3 Intel i225-LM 2500/1000/100Mbps, n°1 NIC Intel i350-T4V2 10/100/1000 Mbps 4*GLAN, n°1 Intel X520-DA2

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                                      • stephenw10S
                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                        last edited by

                                        The one I bought was deliberately the cheapest I could find! 😉 It reports as an i225-V.

                                        It works fine for the what I've used it for, which was mostly testing in a 7100.

                                        There is some speculation that the errors seen on i225/i226 are more likely on faster systems that can drive the NIC harder. I've seen no problems with either on the C3K systems we ship but if you look at the problem reports in Windows and Linux they are often in gaming rigs and similarly powerful machines. That is only speculation at this point.

                                        Steve

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                                        • w0wW
                                          w0w @Unoptanio
                                          last edited by

                                          @Unoptanio
                                          Intel does not produce NIC based on I225/i226 series chipsets AFAIK, but the chipset itself costs less than $5. So the price for the card based on this chipset does not look like “cheapest”, the price looks quite normal.

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                                          • RobbieTTR
                                            RobbieTT @w0w
                                            last edited by RobbieTT

                                            @w0w said in Chinese I226-V on 23.05.1, problems:

                                            @Unoptanio
                                            Intel does not produce NIC based on I225/i226 series chipsets AFAIK, but the chipset itself costs less than $5. So the price for the card based on this chipset does not look like “cheapest”, the price looks quite normal.

                                            Well I'm still staggered you can get an i226 NIC for £8.98. Almost free!

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                                            ☕️

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