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    Chinese I226-V on 23.05.1, problems

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    • UnoptanioU
      Unoptanio @stephenw10
      last edited by Unoptanio

      @stephenw10

      Between these 3 motherboards which one would you choose to install pfsense? opinion based on the integrated network cards

      https://www.asrockind.com/en-gb/product-compare/96

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      Network card Marvell AQC113 with 10/100/1000/2500/10000 Mbps works properly with pfsense 2.7.0?

      pfSensePlus24.03 2U BareMetal Asrock Industrial IMB-X1314MicroATX
      CPU: i7-13700@5.2GHz, RAM:32GB ECC, n°2 Samsung 870EVO SATA 2.5” SSD 1TB (ZFS) Raid1
      n°3 Intel i225-LM 2500/1000/100Mbps, n°1 NIC Intel i350-T4V2 10/100/1000 Mbps 4*GLAN, n°1 Intel X520-DA2

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      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
        last edited by

        There is no Aquatia driver in the 2.7 kernel. There is a kmod pkg that may or may not support that. That package is not in out repo though:
        https://www.freshports.org/net/aquantia-atlantic-kmod/

        Steve

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        • w0wW
          w0w @Unoptanio
          last edited by

          @Unoptanio said in Chinese I226-V on 23.05.1, problems:

          Marvell AQC113

          I don't know how well it is supported today, but several years ago it was a pure lottery with Aquantia.

          I purchased https://www.ebay.com/itm/195858888441 those. This is original Intel cards with verification label on it, at least I got two of them. Replaced thermal grease, one of them looked like not used at all. Updated firmware to the latest available from Intel, both are now working fine… Just read https://forum.netgate.com/topic/146913/nbase-t-support-for-intel-x550/53 if you will buy it.

          @Unoptanio said in Chinese I226-V on 23.05.1, problems:

          Between these 3 motherboards
          imb-x1314

          Maybe Netgate 4100?
          You can also look at N100 based mini PCs and Protectli solutions.

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          • stephenw10S
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @w0w
            last edited by

            @w0w said in Chinese I226-V on 23.05.1, problems:

            I don't know how well it is supported today, but several years ago it was a pure lottery with Aquantia.

            Yeah, and it looks like not yet to me:
            https://github.com/Aquantia/aqtion-freebsd/blob/master/aq_main.c#L92

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            • UnoptanioU
              Unoptanio @w0w
              last edited by

              @w0w
              it's amazing how many fake network cards there are out there. Especially the Chinese that pass for $100 Intel.
              The most counterfeit, the I350T4, after a short time of use no longer work.

              https://forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/comparison-intel-i350-t4-genuine-vs-fake.6917/

              pfSensePlus24.03 2U BareMetal Asrock Industrial IMB-X1314MicroATX
              CPU: i7-13700@5.2GHz, RAM:32GB ECC, n°2 Samsung 870EVO SATA 2.5” SSD 1TB (ZFS) Raid1
              n°3 Intel i225-LM 2500/1000/100Mbps, n°1 NIC Intel i350-T4V2 10/100/1000 Mbps 4*GLAN, n°1 Intel X520-DA2

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                last edited by

                Yup. Used OEM rebranded cards are usually a much better buy for that reason:
                https://forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/list-of-nics-and-their-equivalent-oem-parts.20974/

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                • w0wW
                  w0w @Unoptanio
                  last edited by

                  @Unoptanio
                  Not sure is it actual now, those fake cards. My experience is that, what you have on the modern market, even if we are talking about Ali or any other big, then if we don't look at on the cheapest shit. Then mostly what we have is OEM branded Intel like Dell/HP used cards removed from servers in unknown condition and custom firmware that is mostly outdated if we compare it to Intel original. For the entry level as I350 I have one Chinese card that was working about 5 years and replaced just because I upgraded to higher speeds. If we are talking about i225/226/2xx then there are no cards from intel at all, those chips are embedded solution for the motherboards. But there are a lot of custom variants stand-alone cards, and I think not all of them are bad or fake.
                  But if you want to go with reliable solution, then you should buy some new well known from a reliable supplier.

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                  • UnoptanioU
                    Unoptanio @w0w
                    last edited by

                    @w0w

                    At the moment I have an original Intel I350-T4V2 network card paid in Italy for € 359.
                    I would say quite expensive

                    pfSensePlus24.03 2U BareMetal Asrock Industrial IMB-X1314MicroATX
                    CPU: i7-13700@5.2GHz, RAM:32GB ECC, n°2 Samsung 870EVO SATA 2.5” SSD 1TB (ZFS) Raid1
                    n°3 Intel i225-LM 2500/1000/100Mbps, n°1 NIC Intel i350-T4V2 10/100/1000 Mbps 4*GLAN, n°1 Intel X520-DA2

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                    • UnoptanioU
                      Unoptanio @Unoptanio
                      last edited by Unoptanio

                      @w0w

                      Can we trust these cards?

                      8f13668d-bc3e-4f14-9d95-68c2a6ec4aa5-image.png

                      https://it.aliexpress.com/item/1005005555386876.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.0.0.133eM02OM02OJ7&gps-id=pcDetailTopMoreOtherSeller&scm=1007.40050.354490.0&scm_id=1007.40050.354490.0&scm-url=1007.40050.354490.0&pvid=b18994b2-888a-4e8a-9609-73f3dd8a9350&_t=gps-id:pcDetailTopMoreOtherSeller,scm-url:1007.40050.354490.0,pvid:b18994b2-888a-4e8a-9609-73f3dd8a9350,tpp_buckets:668%232846%238115%232000&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21EUR%2143.16%2115.1%21%21%21328.70%21%21%40211b5e2016951912733636498e1443%2112000033532152942%21rec%21IT%21744027985%21S

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                      Scheda di rete da 2.5G Intel i226 PCIE a RJ45 100/1000/2500Mbps interfaccia RJ45 LAN adattatore Gigabit Etherent per PC/Desktop per Win

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                      https://it.aliexpress.com/item/1005005929535264.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.0.0.691e3fafJW4RXl&gps-id=pcDetailTopMoreOtherSeller&scm=1007.40050.354490.0&scm_id=1007.40050.354490.0&scm-url=1007.40050.354490.0&pvid=ae7eec44-ebb4-43c7-9ece-60a95b450ba5&_t=gps-id:pcDetailTopMoreOtherSeller,scm-url:1007.40050.354490.0,pvid:ae7eec44-ebb4-43c7-9ece-60a95b450ba5,tpp_buckets:668%232846%238112%231997&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21EUR%2156.17%2115.83%21%21%21427.81%21%21%40211b5e1d16951923413203930e1357%2112000034891978936%21rec%21IT%21%21ABSt

                      pfSensePlus24.03 2U BareMetal Asrock Industrial IMB-X1314MicroATX
                      CPU: i7-13700@5.2GHz, RAM:32GB ECC, n°2 Samsung 870EVO SATA 2.5” SSD 1TB (ZFS) Raid1
                      n°3 Intel i225-LM 2500/1000/100Mbps, n°1 NIC Intel i350-T4V2 10/100/1000 Mbps 4*GLAN, n°1 Intel X520-DA2

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                        last edited by

                        'Trust' how? I have a card similar to that I bought from ebay. It shows up as an i225-V and works fine where I've used it.

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                        • UnoptanioU
                          Unoptanio @stephenw10
                          last edited by Unoptanio

                          @stephenw10

                          Trust, in the sense that they really cost too little.
                          Will they be rubbish?

                          For the price they cost I'll give it a try

                          pfSensePlus24.03 2U BareMetal Asrock Industrial IMB-X1314MicroATX
                          CPU: i7-13700@5.2GHz, RAM:32GB ECC, n°2 Samsung 870EVO SATA 2.5” SSD 1TB (ZFS) Raid1
                          n°3 Intel i225-LM 2500/1000/100Mbps, n°1 NIC Intel i350-T4V2 10/100/1000 Mbps 4*GLAN, n°1 Intel X520-DA2

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                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                            last edited by

                            The one I bought was deliberately the cheapest I could find! 😉 It reports as an i225-V.

                            It works fine for the what I've used it for, which was mostly testing in a 7100.

                            There is some speculation that the errors seen on i225/i226 are more likely on faster systems that can drive the NIC harder. I've seen no problems with either on the C3K systems we ship but if you look at the problem reports in Windows and Linux they are often in gaming rigs and similarly powerful machines. That is only speculation at this point.

                            Steve

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                            • w0wW
                              w0w @Unoptanio
                              last edited by

                              @Unoptanio
                              Intel does not produce NIC based on I225/i226 series chipsets AFAIK, but the chipset itself costs less than $5. So the price for the card based on this chipset does not look like “cheapest”, the price looks quite normal.

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                              • RobbieTTR
                                RobbieTT @w0w
                                last edited by RobbieTT

                                @w0w said in Chinese I226-V on 23.05.1, problems:

                                @Unoptanio
                                Intel does not produce NIC based on I225/i226 series chipsets AFAIK, but the chipset itself costs less than $5. So the price for the card based on this chipset does not look like “cheapest”, the price looks quite normal.

                                Well I'm still staggered you can get an i226 NIC for £8.98. Almost free!

                                 2023-09-21 at 09.28.10.png

                                ☕️

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                                • stephenw10S
                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                  last edited by

                                  And it comes in stealth black with cool backlighting. 😁
                                  i225v_nic-2.jpg

                                  YMMV!

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                                  • RobbieTTR
                                    RobbieTT @stephenw10
                                    last edited by

                                    @stephenw10
                                    If I bought the 2-port version would I get even more bling lights?

                                    ☕️

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                                    • stephenw10S
                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                      last edited by

                                      I would assume 😉

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                                      • RobbieTTR
                                        RobbieTT @stephenw10
                                        last edited by

                                        @stephenw10

                                        Ordered the 2-port version. I'll be sure to post a photo if it has more bling... 😎

                                        Glad my network rack lives in a cupboard.

                                        ☕️

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                                        • w0wW
                                          w0w @RobbieTT
                                          last edited by

                                          @RobbieTT
                                          Just remember those two/four port cards are coming with asmedia pcie hub/splitters, I suspect this can be the cause of some glitches I have had with 4 different variants.

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                                          • RobbieTTR
                                            RobbieTT @w0w
                                            last edited by RobbieTT

                                            @w0w said in Chinese I226-V on 23.05.1, problems:

                                            @RobbieTT
                                            Just remember those two/four port cards are coming with asmedia pcie hub/splitters, I suspect this can be the cause of some glitches I have had with 4 different variants.

                                            Ok, that does not sound great.

                                            Switched the order to the single port version, just to be sure.

                                            ☕️

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