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      RobinH @stephenw10
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      @stephenw10

      Since my colleague created the server, it has been expanded with storage, I think. But then I don't know if there has been any work done to move it to Pfsense...
      We also just using one machine, so I have'nt had the guts to reboot it. Last time it rebooted it froze in the start up ๐Ÿ˜ฌ

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      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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        It's running in a VM?

        pfSense won't use storage unless it's present at install or the filesystem is later modified manually.

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          RobinH @stephenw10
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          @stephenw10

          Yes, it runs on a VMware VM,

          be9e3976-1361-4ce6-91a3-71705b7c23b2-image.png

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            SteveITS Galactic Empire @RobinH
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            @RobinH said in Free Disk space >80%:

            Is it safe to uninstall PfBlocker

            Sure, it's safe, it's just a decision you make. Note when uninstalling there is a checkbox to keep settings/files or remove them:
            8aa8367f-357b-4d2e-a219-fbd4b96e687b-image.png

            Did you find this page?
            https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/troubleshooting/filesystem-usage.html

            One way to get pfSense to use all 60 GB would be to reinstall pfSense and restore your configuration from backup.

            Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
            When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
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            • stephenw10S
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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              You can grow the filesystem to fill the available space. Since it's a VM you can just snapshot it first.

              To do it run touch /root/force_growfs then reboot.

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                SteveITS Galactic Empire @stephenw10
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                @stephenw10 Well that's much easier. :) Though reinstalling would get OP to ZFS.

                Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
                When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
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                • stephenw10S
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                  Yup, but not something I'd recommend doing without a fall back plan! growfs like that is only ever normally run at first boot. Though I have used it on older VMs in exactly this situation.

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                    RobinH @stephenw10
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                    @stephenw10

                    Yeah, we are building a new setup, but now it gets kind of stressed... ๐Ÿ˜… But you dont see or know if there are files or logs I could clear out until the new setup is up and running? ๐Ÿ˜ฌ

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                      Mmm, it still shouldn't be anywhere near that full. Maybe you have a very large number of small files are exhausting inodes. Try: df -i

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                        RobinH @stephenw10
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                        @stephenw10

                        This is my output of df -i

                        Filesystem                  512-blocks     Used   Avail Capacity iused   ifree %iused  Mounted on
                        /dev/ufsid/5edf741a475fe581   38557496 29511840 5961064    83%   39858 2528332    2%   /
                        devfs                                2        2       0   100%       0       0  100%   /dev
                        tmpfs                             8192     2488    5704    30%     394   13942    3%   /var/run
                        tmpfs                             8192     2952    5240    36%     500   13836    3%   /var/run
                        devfs                                2        2       0   100%       0       0  100%   /var/dhcpd/dev
                        
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                          Gertjan @RobinH
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                          @RobinH said in Free Disk space >80%:

                          /dev/ufsid/5edf741a475fe581 38557496 29511840 5961064 83% 39858 2528332 2% /

                          The number of total available 512 blocks is 38557496, so divide that number by 2 (half a kilobytes or 512 bytes) and you get 19M bytes, close to 18 Mbytes as mentioned above.

                          You didn't do this ?

                          @stephenw10 said in Free Disk space >80%:

                          To do it run touch /root/force_growfs then reboot.

                          or you did an nothing changed ?

                          Actually strange : the main advantage of using a VM is that you can do what you want with the file system, .... and you can't ?

                          These pfSense packages : acme, Openvpn-client-export, and Telegraf don't add use more disk space over time.

                          But Haproxy : I'm not sure.
                          Status_traffic_totals : I'm pretty sure this one produces a lot of data - and that is stored some where ๐Ÿ˜Š

                          Anyway : I still will advise you to use the ZFS file system, and the means a "re install" (with a VM that's a 5 minutes job if you have a slow machine ^^)

                          b3adc819-3a26-4cb0-b4d8-a55a7916afb5-image.png

                          Hummm : the other partition knows as "swap" takes up the other 60-18=42 ?
                          There is also a third 'boot' partion, but that one is (should be) a couple of Megas max.

                          No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                          Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                            RobbieTT @Gertjan
                            last edited by RobbieTT

                            @Gertjan said in Free Disk space >80%:

                            Status_traffic_totals

                            For me running:

                             find /var/db/ -type d -ls | sort -n -r
                            

                            Showed that my ntopng and vnstat (aka Status_traffic_totals) databases were out of control. I have them nicely tamed now:

                            find /var/db/ -type d -ls | sort -n -r
                             21693        1 drwxr-x---    2 nut                              nut                                     3 May 23 19:31 /var/db/nut
                               817        1 drwxr-xr-x    2 nobody                           nobody                                  2 Oct 11 12:28 /var/db/ntopng/rrd/graphics
                               816        1 drwxr-xr-x    3 nobody                           nobody                                  3 Oct 11 12:28 /var/db/ntopng/rrd
                               815        1 drwxr-xr-x    3 nobody                           nobody                                  3 Oct 11 12:28 /var/db/ntopng
                               388        1 drwxr-xr-x    2 redis                            redis                                   2 Feb 17  2023 /var/db/redis
                               276       17 drwxr-xr-x    2 root                             wheel                                   5 Mar 15  2023 /var/db/pfblockerng/dnsblalias
                               275        1 drwxr-xr-x    2 root                             wheel                                   4 Oct 11 00:15 /var/db/pfblockerng/dnsblorig
                               273        1 drwxr-xr-x    2 root                             wheel                                   2 Mar 12  2023 /var/db/pfblockerng/permit
                               272        1 drwxr-xr-x    2 root                             wheel                                   2 Mar 12  2023 /var/db/pfblockerng/match
                               271       17 drwxr-xr-x    2 root                             wheel                                  13 Oct 11 12:15 /var/db/pfblockerng/deny
                               270        1 drwxr-xr-x    2 root                             wheel                                   2 Mar 12  2023 /var/db/pfblockerng/native
                               269       17 drwxr-xr-x    2 root                             wheel                                  13 Oct 11 12:15 /var/db/pfblockerng/original
                               268       17 drwxr-xr-x   11 root                             wheel                                  15 Oct 11 12:15 /var/db/pfblockerng
                               256        1 drwxr-x---    2 _dhcp                            _dhcp                                   2 Aug 21 08:00 /var/db/dhcpcd
                               251        1 drwxr-xr-x    2 root                             wheel                                   3 Oct 11 12:25 /var/db/vnstat
                               177        1 drwxr-xr-x    2 root                             wheel                                   2 Mar 12  2023 /var/db/pfblockerng/ET
                               151        1 drwxr-xr-x    2 root                             wheel                                   4 Oct 10 00:15 /var/db/pfblockerng/dnsbl
                               138        1 drwxr-xr-x    2 root                             wheel                                   2 Oct 10 08:24 /var/db/zfsd/cases
                               137        1 drwxr-xr-x    2 root                             wheel                                   2 Oct 10 08:24 /var/db/portsnap
                               136        1 drwxr-xr-x    2 root                             wheel                                   2 Oct 10 08:24 /var/db/mtree
                               135        1 drwx------    2 root                             wheel                                   2 Oct 10 08:24 /var/db/freebsd-update
                               134        1 drwxr-xr-x    2 ntpd                             ntpd                                    2 Oct 10 08:24 /var/db/ntp
                               133        1 drwxr-xr-x    2 root                             wheel                                   2 Oct 10 08:24 /var/db/ports
                               132        1 drwx------    2 root                             wheel                                   2 Oct 10 08:24 /var/db/hyperv
                               131        1 drwxr-xr-x    3 root                             wheel                                   3 Oct 10 08:24 /var/db/zfsd
                               130        1 drwx------    2 root                             wheel                                   2 Oct 10 08:24 /var/db/ipf
                               129       17 drwx------    2 operator                         operator                               10 Oct 10 08:24 /var/db/entropy
                               128        1 drwxr-xr-x    2 root                             wheel                                   3 Oct  3 18:59 /var/db/kea
                                34       17 drwxr-xr-x   22 root                             wheel                                  41 Oct 11 12:28 /var/db/
                                34       17 drwxr-xr-x    2 root                             wheel                                  10 Oct 10 12:04 /var/db/pkg
                                28       49 drwxr-xr-x    2 root                             wheel                                   5 May 24 11:59 /var/db/fontconfig
                                19        1 drwxr-xr-x    2 root                             wheel                                   4 Jul  9 10:43 /var/db/aliastables
                                 3       17 drwxr-xr-x    2 nobody                           wheel                                  23 Sep  3 13:32 /var/db/rrd
                            

                            โ˜•๏ธ

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                              RobinH @RobbieTT
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                              @RobbieTT This is my output in a txt-file because its to big...
                              What can I do with it, can I erase much of it?

                              output.txt

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                                SteveITS Galactic Empire @RobinH
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                                @RobinH said in Free Disk space >80%:

                                The packages I run is Acme, Haproxy, Openvpn-client-export, PfBlocker (disabled, not in use), system_patches, Telegraf and Status_traffic_totals

                                @RobinH said in Free Disk space >80%:

                                output in a txt-file

                                /var/db/ntopng ...

                                Did you have ntopng installed, and uninstalled it?

                                Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
                                When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
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                                • stephenw10S
                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                  Your earlier output shows the total size of /var as 697MB. That's quite big but there is still ~11GB that seem to be unaccounted for.

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                                    RobinH @SteveITS
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                                    @SteveITS ntopng is not installed, maybe it has been before.

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                                      RobinH @stephenw10
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                                      @stephenw10 We have many OpenVPN tunnels, could that be it?

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                                      • stephenw10S
                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                        last edited by

                                        No VPNs don't really use any storage.

                                        If ntop has been uninstalled then you can remove all those db entries for it in /var.

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                                          RobinH @stephenw10
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                                          @stephenw10 Great, thats something :)
                                          Is there a good way to remove the whole ntopng directory from /var/db/ ?

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                                          • stephenw10S
                                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                            You can do a recursive delete but it's...risky! Safer to remove the files inside that directory first.

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