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      SteveITS Galactic Empire @RobinH
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      @RobinH said in Free Disk space >80%:

      Is it safe to uninstall PfBlocker

      Sure, it's safe, it's just a decision you make. Note when uninstalling there is a checkbox to keep settings/files or remove them:
      8aa8367f-357b-4d2e-a219-fbd4b96e687b-image.png

      Did you find this page?
      https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/troubleshooting/filesystem-usage.html

      One way to get pfSense to use all 60 GB would be to reinstall pfSense and restore your configuration from backup.

      Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
      When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
      Upvote ๐Ÿ‘ helpful posts!

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      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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        You can grow the filesystem to fill the available space. Since it's a VM you can just snapshot it first.

        To do it run touch /root/force_growfs then reboot.

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          SteveITS Galactic Empire @stephenw10
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          @stephenw10 Well that's much easier. :) Though reinstalling would get OP to ZFS.

          Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
          When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
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          • stephenw10S
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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            Yup, but not something I'd recommend doing without a fall back plan! growfs like that is only ever normally run at first boot. Though I have used it on older VMs in exactly this situation.

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              RobinH @stephenw10
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              @stephenw10

              Yeah, we are building a new setup, but now it gets kind of stressed... ๐Ÿ˜… But you dont see or know if there are files or logs I could clear out until the new setup is up and running? ๐Ÿ˜ฌ

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                Mmm, it still shouldn't be anywhere near that full. Maybe you have a very large number of small files are exhausting inodes. Try: df -i

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                  RobinH @stephenw10
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                  @stephenw10

                  This is my output of df -i

                  Filesystem                  512-blocks     Used   Avail Capacity iused   ifree %iused  Mounted on
                  /dev/ufsid/5edf741a475fe581   38557496 29511840 5961064    83%   39858 2528332    2%   /
                  devfs                                2        2       0   100%       0       0  100%   /dev
                  tmpfs                             8192     2488    5704    30%     394   13942    3%   /var/run
                  tmpfs                             8192     2952    5240    36%     500   13836    3%   /var/run
                  devfs                                2        2       0   100%       0       0  100%   /var/dhcpd/dev
                  
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                    Gertjan @RobinH
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                    @RobinH said in Free Disk space >80%:

                    /dev/ufsid/5edf741a475fe581 38557496 29511840 5961064 83% 39858 2528332 2% /

                    The number of total available 512 blocks is 38557496, so divide that number by 2 (half a kilobytes or 512 bytes) and you get 19M bytes, close to 18 Mbytes as mentioned above.

                    You didn't do this ?

                    @stephenw10 said in Free Disk space >80%:

                    To do it run touch /root/force_growfs then reboot.

                    or you did an nothing changed ?

                    Actually strange : the main advantage of using a VM is that you can do what you want with the file system, .... and you can't ?

                    These pfSense packages : acme, Openvpn-client-export, and Telegraf don't add use more disk space over time.

                    But Haproxy : I'm not sure.
                    Status_traffic_totals : I'm pretty sure this one produces a lot of data - and that is stored some where ๐Ÿ˜Š

                    Anyway : I still will advise you to use the ZFS file system, and the means a "re install" (with a VM that's a 5 minutes job if you have a slow machine ^^)

                    b3adc819-3a26-4cb0-b4d8-a55a7916afb5-image.png

                    Hummm : the other partition knows as "swap" takes up the other 60-18=42 ?
                    There is also a third 'boot' partion, but that one is (should be) a couple of Megas max.

                    No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                    Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                      RobbieTT @Gertjan
                      last edited by RobbieTT

                      @Gertjan said in Free Disk space >80%:

                      Status_traffic_totals

                      For me running:

                       find /var/db/ -type d -ls | sort -n -r
                      

                      Showed that my ntopng and vnstat (aka Status_traffic_totals) databases were out of control. I have them nicely tamed now:

                      find /var/db/ -type d -ls | sort -n -r
                       21693        1 drwxr-x---    2 nut                              nut                                     3 May 23 19:31 /var/db/nut
                         817        1 drwxr-xr-x    2 nobody                           nobody                                  2 Oct 11 12:28 /var/db/ntopng/rrd/graphics
                         816        1 drwxr-xr-x    3 nobody                           nobody                                  3 Oct 11 12:28 /var/db/ntopng/rrd
                         815        1 drwxr-xr-x    3 nobody                           nobody                                  3 Oct 11 12:28 /var/db/ntopng
                         388        1 drwxr-xr-x    2 redis                            redis                                   2 Feb 17  2023 /var/db/redis
                         276       17 drwxr-xr-x    2 root                             wheel                                   5 Mar 15  2023 /var/db/pfblockerng/dnsblalias
                         275        1 drwxr-xr-x    2 root                             wheel                                   4 Oct 11 00:15 /var/db/pfblockerng/dnsblorig
                         273        1 drwxr-xr-x    2 root                             wheel                                   2 Mar 12  2023 /var/db/pfblockerng/permit
                         272        1 drwxr-xr-x    2 root                             wheel                                   2 Mar 12  2023 /var/db/pfblockerng/match
                         271       17 drwxr-xr-x    2 root                             wheel                                  13 Oct 11 12:15 /var/db/pfblockerng/deny
                         270        1 drwxr-xr-x    2 root                             wheel                                   2 Mar 12  2023 /var/db/pfblockerng/native
                         269       17 drwxr-xr-x    2 root                             wheel                                  13 Oct 11 12:15 /var/db/pfblockerng/original
                         268       17 drwxr-xr-x   11 root                             wheel                                  15 Oct 11 12:15 /var/db/pfblockerng
                         256        1 drwxr-x---    2 _dhcp                            _dhcp                                   2 Aug 21 08:00 /var/db/dhcpcd
                         251        1 drwxr-xr-x    2 root                             wheel                                   3 Oct 11 12:25 /var/db/vnstat
                         177        1 drwxr-xr-x    2 root                             wheel                                   2 Mar 12  2023 /var/db/pfblockerng/ET
                         151        1 drwxr-xr-x    2 root                             wheel                                   4 Oct 10 00:15 /var/db/pfblockerng/dnsbl
                         138        1 drwxr-xr-x    2 root                             wheel                                   2 Oct 10 08:24 /var/db/zfsd/cases
                         137        1 drwxr-xr-x    2 root                             wheel                                   2 Oct 10 08:24 /var/db/portsnap
                         136        1 drwxr-xr-x    2 root                             wheel                                   2 Oct 10 08:24 /var/db/mtree
                         135        1 drwx------    2 root                             wheel                                   2 Oct 10 08:24 /var/db/freebsd-update
                         134        1 drwxr-xr-x    2 ntpd                             ntpd                                    2 Oct 10 08:24 /var/db/ntp
                         133        1 drwxr-xr-x    2 root                             wheel                                   2 Oct 10 08:24 /var/db/ports
                         132        1 drwx------    2 root                             wheel                                   2 Oct 10 08:24 /var/db/hyperv
                         131        1 drwxr-xr-x    3 root                             wheel                                   3 Oct 10 08:24 /var/db/zfsd
                         130        1 drwx------    2 root                             wheel                                   2 Oct 10 08:24 /var/db/ipf
                         129       17 drwx------    2 operator                         operator                               10 Oct 10 08:24 /var/db/entropy
                         128        1 drwxr-xr-x    2 root                             wheel                                   3 Oct  3 18:59 /var/db/kea
                          34       17 drwxr-xr-x   22 root                             wheel                                  41 Oct 11 12:28 /var/db/
                          34       17 drwxr-xr-x    2 root                             wheel                                  10 Oct 10 12:04 /var/db/pkg
                          28       49 drwxr-xr-x    2 root                             wheel                                   5 May 24 11:59 /var/db/fontconfig
                          19        1 drwxr-xr-x    2 root                             wheel                                   4 Jul  9 10:43 /var/db/aliastables
                           3       17 drwxr-xr-x    2 nobody                           wheel                                  23 Sep  3 13:32 /var/db/rrd
                      

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                        RobinH @RobbieTT
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                        @RobbieTT This is my output in a txt-file because its to big...
                        What can I do with it, can I erase much of it?

                        output.txt

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                          SteveITS Galactic Empire @RobinH
                          last edited by

                          @RobinH said in Free Disk space >80%:

                          The packages I run is Acme, Haproxy, Openvpn-client-export, PfBlocker (disabled, not in use), system_patches, Telegraf and Status_traffic_totals

                          @RobinH said in Free Disk space >80%:

                          output in a txt-file

                          /var/db/ntopng ...

                          Did you have ntopng installed, and uninstalled it?

                          Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
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                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                            Your earlier output shows the total size of /var as 697MB. That's quite big but there is still ~11GB that seem to be unaccounted for.

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                              RobinH @SteveITS
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                              @SteveITS ntopng is not installed, maybe it has been before.

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                                RobinH @stephenw10
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                                @stephenw10 We have many OpenVPN tunnels, could that be it?

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                                • stephenw10S
                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                  last edited by

                                  No VPNs don't really use any storage.

                                  If ntop has been uninstalled then you can remove all those db entries for it in /var.

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                                    RobinH @stephenw10
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                                    @stephenw10 Great, thats something :)
                                    Is there a good way to remove the whole ntopng directory from /var/db/ ?

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                                    • stephenw10S
                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                      You can do a recursive delete but it's...risky! Safer to remove the files inside that directory first.

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                                        RobinH @stephenw10
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                                        @stephenw10 Okay, better not risk more than I have to. But everything inside /var/db/ntopng can be removed.

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                                        • stephenw10S
                                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                          Yes.

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                                            RobbieTT @stephenw10
                                            last edited by

                                            @stephenw10

                                            I think ntopng has a GUI button to remove all the database entries, leaving you the uninstall and any remaining rm and rmdir after that.

                                            I'm surprised how much space pfblockerNG took; mine is a mere fraction of that.

                                            Still lots unaccounted for. The biggest user of space on mine is having version snapshots for different dev loads. The rest is trivial:

                                             2023-10-11 at 15.17.36.png

                                            Good hunting.

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