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    • johnpozJ
      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @VioletDragon
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      @VioletDragon well if your networks are next to each other or even if they are not just use a cidr that covers it..

      For example if your networks were say 192.168.2.0/24 and 192.168.3.0/24 you could just a 192.168.2.0/23 which would include both of those networks.

      If your networks are not adjacent you could still use a cidr to include them both.. Say you had

      192.168.4.0/24 and 192.168.7.0/24 you could use a 192.168.0.0/21 to cover both of those - as long as you were not using any other network that falls under that cidr that you don't want to use the view.

      I think you might be able to add multiple

      access-control-view: 192.168.3.0/24 mailview
      access-control-view: 192.168.7.0/24 mailview
      access-control-view: 192.168.22.0/24 mailview

      etc.. but I have not tested that specifically..

      But I believe you can do that.. You could also just duplicate your view for your different network, call one mailviewA and the other mailviewB or something and then use your different access-control for each one, etc.

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      • VioletDragonV
        VioletDragon @johnpoz
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        @johnpoz Is this what I have done correct ? 10.10.10.20/24 is the VLAN for the Private WIFI connection.

        Sorry I had to put this project on halt due to work and Christmas. Hope you had a great Christmas.

        Regards

        Screenshot 2023-12-30 at 18.59.37.png

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        • johnpozJ
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @VioletDragon
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          @VioletDragon if your client is on 10.10.10.0/24 then yeah any client would see that view 10.10.10.x or .y etc..

          But your address is wrong a 81.1 is not a valid IP address you need 4 octets and see you have a " there at then end, did you just leave the rest of the IP off to post?

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          • VioletDragonV
            VioletDragon @johnpoz
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            @johnpoz Yes I removed the rest of the WAN IP for security purposeses. Is this correct though?

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            • johnpozJ
              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @VioletDragon
              last edited by johnpoz

              @VioletDragon but you have your full IP posted in a image above in the thread? Or did I just make up that IP?

              I don't see your local zone for the domain and local data for the actual record.

              Just scroll up - I posted a very explicit example of how to do it.

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              • VioletDragonV
                VioletDragon @johnpoz
                last edited by

                @johnpoz That IP in the screenshot above isn't my IP.

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                • VioletDragonV
                  VioletDragon @johnpoz
                  last edited by

                  @johnpoz How does it look now?

                  Screenshot 2023-12-30 at 19.19.12.png

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                  • johnpozJ
                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @VioletDragon
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                    @VioletDragon yeah that should work other than the invalid IP

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                    • VioletDragonV
                      VioletDragon @johnpoz
                      last edited by

                      @johnpoz right awesome. Time to try it. Hopefully this doesn’t affect anything else except for that VLAN.

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                      • VioletDragonV
                        VioletDragon @johnpoz
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                        @johnpoz Okay so that's worked however it seems to have broken pfblockerng

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                        • VioletDragonV
                          VioletDragon @johnpoz
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                          @johnpoz Okay, I see what it's going now, It is rooting everything back to the WAN not just the domain name. But It also breaks pfblockerng on the WIFI devices.

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                          • johnpozJ
                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @VioletDragon
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                            @VioletDragon there is no way this breaks pfblocker.. Its 1 record, only for source IPs that are 10.10.10.x

                            I have no idea what your trying to do exactly - but not sure why you would want to point these clients to some public IP 81..

                            This is real simple does a client not from 10.10.10 network using unbound for its dns resolve what you want? And then does a client on 10.10.10.x asking for that same record get back what you created in your view?

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                            • VioletDragonV
                              VioletDragon @johnpoz
                              last edited by VioletDragon

                              @johnpoz I am hosting a Mail Server internally, Web Mail is being Pointed to Load Balancers but when adding the Mail Server to the Mail Client internally it resolves to the Load Balancers. On Desktops computers or Laptops in order to get IMAP and SMTP working in the Mail Client I have to add mail.fqdn.com that points to the WAN Address in order for Mail Clients to work, of course external works because of DNS outside of the Network. The IP I am resolving too is the WAN IP Address.

                              I need to somehow route devices to the Mail Server or WAN IP to get IMAP & SMTP working.

                              Also all services that are under domain.com i.e Sub Domains are broken too.

                              When adding DNS Views it breaks pfblovckerng on that VLAN, All ads are no longer blocked.

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                              • VioletDragonV
                                VioletDragon @johnpoz
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                                @johnpoz I need to figure out away to route mail.domain.com to a different IP and not the Load Balancers IP.

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                                • johnpozJ
                                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @VioletDragon
                                  last edited by johnpoz

                                  @VioletDragon dude here.. this took 30 seconds to setup..

                                  mail.jpg

                                  Only devices on my 192.168.3 network get back the 81 address I put in, stuff on my 192.168.9 network gets back the actual public IP.

                                  This is basic to setup and basic to test with a simple query with your fav dns tool, dig, host, nslookup doggo, etc..

                                  Do your clients need to resolve something else in this domain? Static zone type would not be correct then - you would use a transparent zone type most likely, etc.

                                  And it sure is not going to break pfblocker.. Unless unbound doesn't actually start because you have a typo in your commands or something.. But if you do - it would warn you when you save, etc.

                                  maybe what your using to see what gets looked up isn't using pfsense for dns? Are you testing with some browser using doh? Does your local client have it cached?

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                                  • VioletDragonV
                                    VioletDragon @johnpoz
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                                    @johnpoz yes it works but all sub domains under that domains no longer work, I have more subdomains under that domain. Pfblockerng stops working on devices under the VLAN I have views configured with.

                                    How do you do transparent views?

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                                    • johnpozJ
                                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @VioletDragon
                                      last edited by johnpoz

                                      @VioletDragon see where its static after the domain name, set it to transparent.

                                      I don't use pfblocker to block anything, I use it to create lists - if there is something weird with views and pfblocker I am not aware of it.. But that would be pfblocker issue.. This is just simple view.. All pfblocker does is put records into unbound.. A simple view wouldn't have anything to do with that.

                                      edit: here so when I was static I couldn't lookup another record in that zone, that wasn't a local record.. So I set the zone type to transparent and now can lookup another RR in that domain from public

                                      trans.jpg

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                                      • VioletDragonV
                                        VioletDragon @johnpoz
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                                        @johnpoz Yeah I change Static to transparent but same problem, Subdomains under that domains no longer work. Could be a DNS Caching problem maybe will have a another look.

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                                        • johnpozJ
                                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @VioletDragon
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                                          @VioletDragon what record are you trying to lookup?? I just did example test with ftp that returned IP.. see my edit above

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                                          • VioletDragonV
                                            VioletDragon @johnpoz
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                                            @johnpoz I have zabbix running under a subdomain with zabbix.violetdragonsnetwork.co.uk but with the view in place it resolves that subdomain.violetdragonsnetwork.co.uk straight to the WAN IP does this for other domains too that I am hosting.

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