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    • johnpozJ
      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @VioletDragon
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      @VioletDragon yeah that should work other than the invalid IP

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      • VioletDragonV
        VioletDragon @johnpoz
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        @johnpoz right awesome. Time to try it. Hopefully this doesn’t affect anything else except for that VLAN.

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        • VioletDragonV
          VioletDragon @johnpoz
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          @johnpoz Okay so that's worked however it seems to have broken pfblockerng

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          • VioletDragonV
            VioletDragon @johnpoz
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            @johnpoz Okay, I see what it's going now, It is rooting everything back to the WAN not just the domain name. But It also breaks pfblockerng on the WIFI devices.

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            • johnpozJ
              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @VioletDragon
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              @VioletDragon there is no way this breaks pfblocker.. Its 1 record, only for source IPs that are 10.10.10.x

              I have no idea what your trying to do exactly - but not sure why you would want to point these clients to some public IP 81..

              This is real simple does a client not from 10.10.10 network using unbound for its dns resolve what you want? And then does a client on 10.10.10.x asking for that same record get back what you created in your view?

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              • VioletDragonV
                VioletDragon @johnpoz
                last edited by VioletDragon

                @johnpoz I am hosting a Mail Server internally, Web Mail is being Pointed to Load Balancers but when adding the Mail Server to the Mail Client internally it resolves to the Load Balancers. On Desktops computers or Laptops in order to get IMAP and SMTP working in the Mail Client I have to add mail.fqdn.com that points to the WAN Address in order for Mail Clients to work, of course external works because of DNS outside of the Network. The IP I am resolving too is the WAN IP Address.

                I need to somehow route devices to the Mail Server or WAN IP to get IMAP & SMTP working.

                Also all services that are under domain.com i.e Sub Domains are broken too.

                When adding DNS Views it breaks pfblovckerng on that VLAN, All ads are no longer blocked.

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                • VioletDragonV
                  VioletDragon @johnpoz
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                  @johnpoz I need to figure out away to route mail.domain.com to a different IP and not the Load Balancers IP.

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                  • johnpozJ
                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @VioletDragon
                    last edited by johnpoz

                    @VioletDragon dude here.. this took 30 seconds to setup..

                    mail.jpg

                    Only devices on my 192.168.3 network get back the 81 address I put in, stuff on my 192.168.9 network gets back the actual public IP.

                    This is basic to setup and basic to test with a simple query with your fav dns tool, dig, host, nslookup doggo, etc..

                    Do your clients need to resolve something else in this domain? Static zone type would not be correct then - you would use a transparent zone type most likely, etc.

                    And it sure is not going to break pfblocker.. Unless unbound doesn't actually start because you have a typo in your commands or something.. But if you do - it would warn you when you save, etc.

                    maybe what your using to see what gets looked up isn't using pfsense for dns? Are you testing with some browser using doh? Does your local client have it cached?

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                    • VioletDragonV
                      VioletDragon @johnpoz
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                      @johnpoz yes it works but all sub domains under that domains no longer work, I have more subdomains under that domain. Pfblockerng stops working on devices under the VLAN I have views configured with.

                      How do you do transparent views?

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                      • johnpozJ
                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @VioletDragon
                        last edited by johnpoz

                        @VioletDragon see where its static after the domain name, set it to transparent.

                        I don't use pfblocker to block anything, I use it to create lists - if there is something weird with views and pfblocker I am not aware of it.. But that would be pfblocker issue.. This is just simple view.. All pfblocker does is put records into unbound.. A simple view wouldn't have anything to do with that.

                        edit: here so when I was static I couldn't lookup another record in that zone, that wasn't a local record.. So I set the zone type to transparent and now can lookup another RR in that domain from public

                        trans.jpg

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                        • VioletDragonV
                          VioletDragon @johnpoz
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                          @johnpoz Yeah I change Static to transparent but same problem, Subdomains under that domains no longer work. Could be a DNS Caching problem maybe will have a another look.

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                          • johnpozJ
                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @VioletDragon
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                            @VioletDragon what record are you trying to lookup?? I just did example test with ftp that returned IP.. see my edit above

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                            • VioletDragonV
                              VioletDragon @johnpoz
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                              @johnpoz I have zabbix running under a subdomain with zabbix.violetdragonsnetwork.co.uk but with the view in place it resolves that subdomain.violetdragonsnetwork.co.uk straight to the WAN IP does this for other domains too that I am hosting.

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                              • johnpozJ
                                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @VioletDragon
                                last edited by johnpoz

                                @VioletDragon this view has ZERO to do with that domain, that is not a subdomain of this domain.. That is completely different domain, it would have ZERO to do with what view you created for mailview domain.

                                If you want to do something sim with that domain, then create another view..

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                                • VioletDragonV
                                  VioletDragon @johnpoz
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                                  @johnpoz well it affects all the other domains under that VLAN. So no idea it is doing stuff it shouldn't be i know that for sure whether it is a bug or not but all internal stuff is all being routed to that WAN IP when the View is in place.

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                                  • johnpozJ
                                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @VioletDragon
                                    last edited by johnpoz

                                    @VioletDragon said in Internally route devices to WAN:

                                    well it affects all the other domains under that VLAN

                                    No it doesn't not sure what you have done exactly.. But this is simple view that says have if a client asks me for something in domainx.tld and he comes from my access list - hand this record vs looking it up.. It has zero to do with any other dns that the client might ask for..

                                    Here - my 192.168.3 box that view would effect, looking up other shit no problem

                                    lookingupshit.jpg

                                    if you need it to look up other stuff that is in the same domain from public, ie outside the local-data you put in the view, then set it as transparent vs static.

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                                    • VioletDragonV
                                      VioletDragon @johnpoz
                                      last edited by VioletDragon

                                      @johnpoz This is what I added as shows,

                                      access-control-view: 10.10.10.0/24 mailview
                                      view:
                                      name: "mailview"
                                      local-zone: "mail.violetdragons.co.uk" transparent
                                      local-data: "mail.violetdragons.co.uk. 3600 IN A 81.150."

                                      I tested with local-zone: "violetdragons.co.uk" transparent this worked for mail how ever a server which resolves to violetdragons.co.uk was broken, browser kept saying this page can't be resolved although dig in Linux how it resolves to 81.150. I changed to mail.violetdragons.co.uk which fixed the server which resolves to violetdragons.co.uk.

                                      However other Domains were affected on my phone. It is very strange how other domains were affected.

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                                      • johnpozJ
                                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @VioletDragon
                                        last edited by johnpoz

                                        @VioletDragon said in Internally route devices to WAN:

                                        It is very strange how other domains were affected.

                                        Yeah it is strange because that simple view has zero to do with other domains - ZERO..

                                        Your zone and data there is WRONG btw.. the zone would be violetdragons.co.uk, the RR mail.violetdragons.co.uk. is in that zone..

                                        As to not resolving that its because it doesn't resolve on the public internet

                                        ;; QUESTION SECTION:
                                        ;violetdragons.co.uk.           IN      A
                                        
                                        ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
                                        co.uk.                  3600    IN      SOA     dns1.nic.uk. hostmaster.nominet.org.uk. 1315457221 900 300 2419200 10800
                                        

                                        Did you create a local record in unbound for it? with either a host override, or a local-data record? If you want your local clients to resolve it?

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                                        • VioletDragonV
                                          VioletDragon @johnpoz
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                                          @johnpoz hi yes that domain doesn’t exist they are just examples.

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                                          • johnpozJ
                                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @VioletDragon
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                                            @VioletDragon well I can not help you figure out what is going on if I can not actually see what resolves or doesn't resolve public, etc.

                                            This is pretty basic stuff. I have gone over explicit examples of how to use a view to resolve something different for specific IP or network, etc.

                                            Without some actual something to work with so I could see what your actually running into, I can not help you.. PM the actual info if you don't want to post it here..

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