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    So many config changes from WireGuard (and even more from pfBlocker if DNSBL is disabled)

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    • johnpozJ
      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Bob.Dig
      last edited by johnpoz

      @Bob-Dig I would love to know how to stop it.. If you look at a diff, there isn't any listed other than the description

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      Are you on + or CE?

      I don't have wireguard installed, I have tailscale installed.

      Not meaning to hijack your thread, but seems related to me - stuff being added to config history, that really shouldn't be imho.

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        Bob.Dig LAYER 8 @johnpoz
        last edited by Bob.Dig

        @johnpoz said in So many config changes from WireGuard:

        @Bob-Dig I would love to know how to stop it..

        I am on plus with this machine.
        Do the settings play a role here under DiagnosticsBackup & Restore?

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          Bob.Dig LAYER 8 @johnpoz
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          @johnpoz said in So many config changes from WireGuard:

          I don't have wireguard installed, I have tailscale installed.

          Becoming lazy, don't want to open a port? 😁

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          • johnpozJ
            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Bob.Dig
            last edited by johnpoz

            @Bob-Dig while I have a port open for tailscale - I thought I was reading somewhere recently that someone has tailscale working without opening that port.. tailscale is not my go to vpn solution. I use openvpn for day to day remote access.. Which is way less than it use to be now that just full time work from home ;)

            As to the backup/config settings - I don't see anything there that would have an effect on the pfblocker stuff

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            • bmeeksB
              bmeeks @johnpoz
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              @johnpoz said in So many config changes from WireGuard:

              I would love to know how to stop it.

              Currently the only way would be to manually edit the PHP code of the pfBlockerNG GUI and add the additional arguments to calls to the write_config() function that I copied in my earlier post. That would require knowledge of the code paths in the package or some study to figure them out.

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                last edited by

                Do you actually have DNS-BL enabled?

                Maybe: https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/14409

                I do have DNS-BL enabled and don't see config backups for it.

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                • johnpozJ
                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @stephenw10
                  last edited by johnpoz

                  @stephenw10 no I do not actually have dns-bl enabled. I just use pfblocker to create native aliases that I use in my firewall rules.

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                  here is what I am using pfblocker for

                  pfblocker.jpg

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                    Bob.Dig LAYER 8 @johnpoz
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                    @johnpoz I use both.

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                    • johnpozJ
                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Bob.Dig
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                      @Bob-Dig I wonder if I just enabled dns-bl, without actually using it would get rid of the config entries?

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                        Bob.Dig LAYER 8 @johnpoz
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                        @johnpoz said in So many config changes from WireGuard:

                        @Bob-Dig I wonder if I just enabled dns-bl, without actually using it would get rid of the config entries?

                        Sounds like a plan.

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                        • johnpozJ
                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Bob.Dig
                          last edited by

                          @Bob-Dig yup have it enabled now, just not doing anything.. So check back tmrw to see if those config entries are in there..

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                            Bob.Dig LAYER 8 @johnpoz
                            last edited by

                            @johnpoz Do you have anything in DNSBL Groups enabled or the other tabs?
                            Still wouldn't make any sense.

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                            • johnpozJ
                              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Bob.Dig
                              last edited by

                              @Bob-Dig nope have never setup dns-bl, have no use for it. Have never had it enabled ever..

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                                Bob.Dig LAYER 8 @johnpoz
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                                @johnpoz I think one ad list is included by installation there, maybe removing it does something; or not. 😉

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                                • johnpozJ
                                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Bob.Dig
                                  last edited by johnpoz

                                  @Bob-Dig I looked I have nothing selected.. Ah, this is set by default for top 1M whitelist

                                  Default: COM, NET, ORG, CA, CO, IO

                                  But can not unselect them.. if you do and then hit save, and then go back into it.. They are selected again, but this is not even enabled.

                                  I have no groups listed

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                                  No categories selected, nothing in safesearch, its not enabled.. I don't use dns-bl, my clients use pihole on my network for this sort of thing.. The only thing I use pfblocker for is creating aliases I use in my own firewall rules.

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                                    Bob.Dig LAYER 8 @johnpoz
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                                    @johnpoz I am quite happy with pfBlocker doing DNSBL, what am I missing? Seriously.

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                                    • johnpozJ
                                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Bob.Dig
                                      last edited by johnpoz

                                      @Bob-Dig I have nothing against it, it prob works great.. But have been using pihole for like forever.. It works for me, its eyecandy is nicer and I know it inside and out.. I have no good reason to change..

                                      But I do love the flexibility of creating aliases with pfblocker, and make use of them quite a bit.. But the blocking with dnsbl I don't have a current use for..

                                      If I want filtered dns, I query my pihole, which in turn forwards to unbound on pfsense. If I want unfiltered I can just query unbound on pfsense directly.. I see no point in filtering in 2 different locations. Maybe I could move to just using pfblocker dnsbl - but then I would miss the eyecandy pihole provides. And would be more difficult to just query a filtered or unfiltered dns that I run locally, etc.

                                      The alias rules I create in pfblocker, are only for inbound into my wan.. etc..

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                                        mcury Rebel Alliance @johnpoz
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                                        weird, I have the same problem with pfblockerNG.

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                                        DNSBL is disabled, using it in the same way as @johnpoz , just the IP part to create aliases.

                                        dead on arrival, nowhere to be found.

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                                        • johnpozJ
                                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @mcury
                                          last edited by johnpoz

                                          @mcury yeah its a bit of annoyance... Lets see if enabling it and just not having anything configured makes it go away.. But to be honest I don't think that is going to work.. But happy to test it.. Will know tmrw.. since the cron kicks off every 12 hours.

                                          Maybe we are the only 2 using pfblocker in this way? ;)

                                          Yours is doing it every hour, which pretty much makes the ability to restore configs completely useless, since by time you might notice and need to restore a config you did yesterday it would be gone.. The default is like 30, so if every hour a new one is added, 30 hours later your actual config you changed would be gone.

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                                            mcury Rebel Alliance @johnpoz
                                            last edited by mcury

                                            @johnpoz said in So many config changes from WireGuard:

                                            @mcury yeah its a bit of annoyance... Lets see if enabling it and just not having anything configured makes it go away.. But to be honest I don't think that is going to work.. But happy to test it.. Will know tmrw.. since the cron kicks off every 12 hours.

                                            If there is something that I can do to help, just tell me.
                                            I can set it up here to speed up the tests

                                            @johnpoz said in So many config changes from WireGuard:

                                            Maybe we are the only 2 using pfblocker in this way? ;)

                                            probably :) I'm using uBlock Origin, for me it is working perfectly fine.

                                            dead on arrival, nowhere to be found.

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