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    SG2100 128GB SSD and Swap

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          • JonathanLeeJ
            JonathanLee
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            So gpart shows it has a 6GB swap however the fstab file does not list it and swapinfo shows incorrect info?

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              @JonathanLee I should be able to just add a mount point for it right?

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                Yes you should just be able to add it to the fstab. Like:

                [24.03-RELEASE][admin@5100.stevew.lan]/root: cat /etc/fstab 
                # Device		Mountpoint	FStype	Options		Dump	Pass#
                /dev/ada0p2		none	swap	sw		0	0
                

                Though you need to use /dev/ada0s3b.

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                • JonathanLeeJ
                  JonathanLee @stephenw10
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                  @stephenw10 thanks after setting this the crash reports should show correct? This is new to me so the swap is essentially extra memory for the kernel? How does this help with getting crash reports? I am excited to test this with the compex card. Do I need to disable this or can I leave it enabled after we are done with it.

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                  • stephenw10S
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                    Yes it should store crash reports. The SWAP space still exists and is accessible from the debugger so it is able to store the crash report there. pfSense checks for any reports in the swap at boot and shows an alert if it finds any.

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                    • JonathanLeeJ
                      JonathanLee @stephenw10
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                      @stephenw10 is it safe to leave it on? It is on the SSD. I am a bit confused with this as why @jimp recommend using a usb for swap. Is that because that is recommended over using MMC but I have a SSD and that is ok to use? Is it essentially extra memory for only crash reports? Or let’s say I use clamAV and enabled the monster signature file would it overflow into the swap for loading? Kind of like Disk based RAM? It shouldn’t use it all the time right? Again with an SSD that can withstand abuse is it ok? 6GB swap, I only have 4GB memory and I can only access around 3.5 of it.

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                      • JonathanLeeJ
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                        @stephenw10 @jimp

                        It is on the SSD working :)

                        Thanks,

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                        • stephenw10S
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                          Yeah it's safe to leave enabled on an SSD. But, as you say, it should never get used anyway.

                          We have recommended using a USB drive for SWAP because it's easy to add. In your case it was trivial because the SWAP partition already existed. But on a system with emmc only where there is no SWAP then re-partitioning it to add swap is complex. Easier to reinstall. Or just use a USB drive temporarily.

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                            Okay Stephen riddle me this... yesterday I was able to get the swap file to show in the gui under system information by editing the fstab to correct the location of the swap file partition. Today I see my amount of swap is 1024 and "gpart show" says I have 1.06 or "freebsd-swap (1.0G)." What kind of trickery is this!

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                              • stephenw10S
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                                Unclear what your question is? You appear to have a 1GB SWAP partition and it's configured correctly if it appears in the gui.

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                                  The Party of Hell No @stephenw10
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                                  @stephenw10
                                  Sorry, I was not clear... the gui, system Information says the swap file is 1024mb but the swap file according to gpart is 1.0g. My thinking is these two should match? Am I wrong about that?

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                                    Your in luck that is 1GB

                                    64MB X 2 = 128MB a fourth of a 1GB

                                    128MB X 2 = 512MB or half a 1GB

                                    512 X 2 = 1024MB or Also known as 1GB :)

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                                      The Party of Hell No @JonathanLee
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                                      @JonathanLee said in SG2100 128GB SSD and Swap:

                                      @The-Party-of-Hell-No

                                      Your in luck that is 1GB

                                      64MB X 2 = 128MB a fourth of a 1GB

                                      128MB X 2 = 512MB or half a 1GB

                                      512 X 2 = 1024MB or Also known as 1GB :)

                                      Ahh shit, I sound like a bumpkin... never mind.
                                      Hey could someone upvote me so I am not stopped from submitting posts because I have to wait 140 seconds as a new user.

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                                      • stephenw10S
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                                        Your rep is over 5 now you should be good.

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                                          @stephenw10 Thank you.

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                                            Quick Question @stephenw10 @jimp

                                            I am testing SWAP on a USB drive and I used gpart to create a swap partition on the drive, I have it referenced and it is working...

                                            Screenshot 2024-05-09 at 15.35.46.png

                                            But it doesn't show usage here...
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                                            But it does here

                                            Screenshot 2024-05-09 at 15.37.07.png

                                            This all seemed to math up with the SSD use

                                            Screenshot 2024-05-09 at 15.37.46.png

                                            Geom name: ada0
                                            modified: false
                                            state: OK
                                            fwheads: 16
                                            fwsectors: 63
                                            last: 250069679
                                            first: 1
                                            entries: 4
                                            scheme: MBR
                                            Providers:
                                            1. Name: ada0s1
                                               Mediasize: 272629760 (260M)
                                               Sectorsize: 512
                                               Stripesize: 0
                                               Stripeoffset: 512
                                               Mode: r0w0e0
                                               efimedia: HD(1,MBR,00000000,0x1,0x82000)
                                               rawtype: 239
                                               length: 272629760
                                               offset: 512
                                               type: efi
                                               index: 1
                                               end: 532480
                                               start: 1
                                            2. Name: ada0s2
                                               Mediasize: 67108864 (64M)
                                               Sectorsize: 512
                                               Stripesize: 0
                                               Stripeoffset: 272630272
                                               Mode: r0w0e0
                                               efimedia: HD(2,MBR,00000000,0x82001,0x20000)
                                               rawtype: 11
                                               length: 67108864
                                               offset: 272630272
                                               type: fat32
                                               index: 2
                                               end: 663552
                                               start: 532481
                                            3. Name: ada0s3
                                               Mediasize: 127695937024 (119G)
                                               Sectorsize: 512
                                               Stripesize: 0
                                               Stripeoffset: 339739136
                                               Mode: r1w1e2
                                               efimedia: HD(3,MBR,00000000,0xa2001,0xedda2af)
                                               attrib: active
                                               rawtype: 165
                                               length: 127695937024
                                               offset: 339739136
                                               type: freebsd
                                               index: 3
                                               end: 250069679
                                               start: 663553
                                            Consumers:
                                            1. Name: ada0
                                               Mediasize: 128035676160 (119G)
                                               Sectorsize: 512
                                               Mode: r1w1e3
                                            
                                            Geom name: ada0s3
                                            modified: false
                                            state: OK
                                            fwheads: 16
                                            fwsectors: 63
                                            last: 249406126
                                            first: 0
                                            entries: 8
                                            scheme: BSD
                                            Providers:
                                            1. Name: ada0s3a
                                               Mediasize: 120590425600 (112G)
                                               Sectorsize: 512
                                               Stripesize: 0
                                               Stripeoffset: 339747328
                                               Mode: r1w1e1
                                               rawtype: 27
                                               length: 120590425600
                                               offset: 8192
                                               type: freebsd-zfs
                                               index: 1
                                               end: 235528190
                                               start: 16
                                            2. Name: ada0s3b
                                               Mediasize: 7105150976 (6.6G)
                                               Sectorsize: 512
                                               Stripesize: 0
                                               Stripeoffset: 120930172928
                                               Mode: r0w0e0
                                               rawtype: 1
                                               length: 7105150976
                                               offset: 120590433792
                                               type: freebsd-swap
                                               index: 2
                                               end: 249405438
                                               start: 235528191
                                            Consumers:
                                            1. Name: ada0s3
                                               Mediasize: 127695937024 (119G)
                                               Sectorsize: 512
                                               Stripesize: 0
                                               Stripeoffset: 339739136
                                               Mode: r1w1e2
                                            

                                            Just to confirm this is correct right I can hear the drive running seeking etc

                                            I checked the ada0 made sure it would work unplugged it to make use it was the right drive name also

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