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    SG2100 128GB SSD and Swap

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    • JonathanLeeJ
      JonathanLee
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      So gpart shows it has a 6GB swap however the fstab file does not list it and swapinfo shows incorrect info?

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      • JonathanLeeJ
        JonathanLee @JonathanLee
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        @JonathanLee I should be able to just add a mount point for it right?

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        • stephenw10S
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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          Yes you should just be able to add it to the fstab. Like:

          [24.03-RELEASE][admin@5100.stevew.lan]/root: cat /etc/fstab 
          # Device		Mountpoint	FStype	Options		Dump	Pass#
          /dev/ada0p2		none	swap	sw		0	0
          

          Though you need to use /dev/ada0s3b.

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          • JonathanLeeJ
            JonathanLee @stephenw10
            last edited by

            @stephenw10 thanks after setting this the crash reports should show correct? This is new to me so the swap is essentially extra memory for the kernel? How does this help with getting crash reports? I am excited to test this with the compex card. Do I need to disable this or can I leave it enabled after we are done with it.

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            • stephenw10S
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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              Yes it should store crash reports. The SWAP space still exists and is accessible from the debugger so it is able to store the crash report there. pfSense checks for any reports in the swap at boot and shows an alert if it finds any.

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              • JonathanLeeJ
                JonathanLee @stephenw10
                last edited by JonathanLee

                @stephenw10 is it safe to leave it on? It is on the SSD. I am a bit confused with this as why @jimp recommend using a usb for swap. Is that because that is recommended over using MMC but I have a SSD and that is ok to use? Is it essentially extra memory for only crash reports? Or let’s say I use clamAV and enabled the monster signature file would it overflow into the swap for loading? Kind of like Disk based RAM? It shouldn’t use it all the time right? Again with an SSD that can withstand abuse is it ok? 6GB swap, I only have 4GB memory and I can only access around 3.5 of it.

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                • JonathanLeeJ
                  JonathanLee
                  last edited by

                  @stephenw10 @jimp

                  It is on the SSD working :)

                  Thanks,

                  Screenshot 2024-05-07 at 07.47.35.png

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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                    Yeah it's safe to leave enabled on an SSD. But, as you say, it should never get used anyway.

                    We have recommended using a USB drive for SWAP because it's easy to add. In your case it was trivial because the SWAP partition already existed. But on a system with emmc only where there is no SWAP then re-partitioning it to add swap is complex. Easier to reinstall. Or just use a USB drive temporarily.

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                      The Party of Hell No @stephenw10
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                      @stephenw10
                      Okay Stephen riddle me this... yesterday I was able to get the swap file to show in the gui under system information by editing the fstab to correct the location of the swap file partition. Today I see my amount of swap is 1024 and "gpart show" says I have 1.06 or "freebsd-swap (1.0G)." What kind of trickery is this!

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                        • stephenw10S
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                          Unclear what your question is? You appear to have a 1GB SWAP partition and it's configured correctly if it appears in the gui.

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                            The Party of Hell No @stephenw10
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                            @stephenw10
                            Sorry, I was not clear... the gui, system Information says the swap file is 1024mb but the swap file according to gpart is 1.0g. My thinking is these two should match? Am I wrong about that?

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                            • JonathanLeeJ
                              JonathanLee @The Party of Hell No
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                              @The-Party-of-Hell-No

                              Your in luck that is 1GB

                              64MB X 2 = 128MB a fourth of a 1GB

                              128MB X 2 = 512MB or half a 1GB

                              512 X 2 = 1024MB or Also known as 1GB :)

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                                The Party of Hell No @JonathanLee
                                last edited by The Party of Hell No

                                @JonathanLee said in SG2100 128GB SSD and Swap:

                                @The-Party-of-Hell-No

                                Your in luck that is 1GB

                                64MB X 2 = 128MB a fourth of a 1GB

                                128MB X 2 = 512MB or half a 1GB

                                512 X 2 = 1024MB or Also known as 1GB :)

                                Ahh shit, I sound like a bumpkin... never mind.
                                Hey could someone upvote me so I am not stopped from submitting posts because I have to wait 140 seconds as a new user.

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                                • stephenw10S
                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                  Your rep is over 5 now you should be good.

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                                    The Party of Hell No @stephenw10
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                                    @stephenw10 Thank you.

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                                    • JonathanLeeJ
                                      JonathanLee
                                      last edited by

                                      Quick Question @stephenw10 @jimp

                                      I am testing SWAP on a USB drive and I used gpart to create a swap partition on the drive, I have it referenced and it is working...

                                      Screenshot 2024-05-09 at 15.35.46.png

                                      But it doesn't show usage here...
                                      Screenshot 2024-05-09 at 15.36.07.png

                                      But it does here

                                      Screenshot 2024-05-09 at 15.37.07.png

                                      This all seemed to math up with the SSD use

                                      Screenshot 2024-05-09 at 15.37.46.png

                                      Geom name: ada0
                                      modified: false
                                      state: OK
                                      fwheads: 16
                                      fwsectors: 63
                                      last: 250069679
                                      first: 1
                                      entries: 4
                                      scheme: MBR
                                      Providers:
                                      1. Name: ada0s1
                                         Mediasize: 272629760 (260M)
                                         Sectorsize: 512
                                         Stripesize: 0
                                         Stripeoffset: 512
                                         Mode: r0w0e0
                                         efimedia: HD(1,MBR,00000000,0x1,0x82000)
                                         rawtype: 239
                                         length: 272629760
                                         offset: 512
                                         type: efi
                                         index: 1
                                         end: 532480
                                         start: 1
                                      2. Name: ada0s2
                                         Mediasize: 67108864 (64M)
                                         Sectorsize: 512
                                         Stripesize: 0
                                         Stripeoffset: 272630272
                                         Mode: r0w0e0
                                         efimedia: HD(2,MBR,00000000,0x82001,0x20000)
                                         rawtype: 11
                                         length: 67108864
                                         offset: 272630272
                                         type: fat32
                                         index: 2
                                         end: 663552
                                         start: 532481
                                      3. Name: ada0s3
                                         Mediasize: 127695937024 (119G)
                                         Sectorsize: 512
                                         Stripesize: 0
                                         Stripeoffset: 339739136
                                         Mode: r1w1e2
                                         efimedia: HD(3,MBR,00000000,0xa2001,0xedda2af)
                                         attrib: active
                                         rawtype: 165
                                         length: 127695937024
                                         offset: 339739136
                                         type: freebsd
                                         index: 3
                                         end: 250069679
                                         start: 663553
                                      Consumers:
                                      1. Name: ada0
                                         Mediasize: 128035676160 (119G)
                                         Sectorsize: 512
                                         Mode: r1w1e3
                                      
                                      Geom name: ada0s3
                                      modified: false
                                      state: OK
                                      fwheads: 16
                                      fwsectors: 63
                                      last: 249406126
                                      first: 0
                                      entries: 8
                                      scheme: BSD
                                      Providers:
                                      1. Name: ada0s3a
                                         Mediasize: 120590425600 (112G)
                                         Sectorsize: 512
                                         Stripesize: 0
                                         Stripeoffset: 339747328
                                         Mode: r1w1e1
                                         rawtype: 27
                                         length: 120590425600
                                         offset: 8192
                                         type: freebsd-zfs
                                         index: 1
                                         end: 235528190
                                         start: 16
                                      2. Name: ada0s3b
                                         Mediasize: 7105150976 (6.6G)
                                         Sectorsize: 512
                                         Stripesize: 0
                                         Stripeoffset: 120930172928
                                         Mode: r0w0e0
                                         rawtype: 1
                                         length: 7105150976
                                         offset: 120590433792
                                         type: freebsd-swap
                                         index: 2
                                         end: 249405438
                                         start: 235528191
                                      Consumers:
                                      1. Name: ada0s3
                                         Mediasize: 127695937024 (119G)
                                         Sectorsize: 512
                                         Stripesize: 0
                                         Stripeoffset: 339739136
                                         Mode: r1w1e2
                                      

                                      Just to confirm this is correct right I can hear the drive running seeking etc

                                      I checked the ada0 made sure it would work unplugged it to make use it was the right drive name also

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                                      • JonathanLeeJ
                                        JonathanLee
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                                        Screenshot 2024-05-09 at 15.40.28.png

                                        Disregard I spoke to soon...

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                                        • JonathanLeeJ
                                          JonathanLee
                                          last edited by JonathanLee

                                          @stephenw10 said in SG2100 128GB SSD and Swap:

                                          /dev/ada0s3b

                                          With use of the drive "da0" in place of "/dev/ada0s3b how can I still use the SWAP and have coredumps generate?

                                          How can I still use the external drive for swap and access core dumps in /var/crashes?

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                                          • JonathanLeeJ
                                            JonathanLee
                                            last edited by

                                            I need to use

                                            /dev/ada0s3b for dump

                                            and
                                            /dev/da0 for swapping

                                            can I separate them?

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