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SG-1100 update from 23.09.1 to 24.03 keeps failing

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    mrneutron
    last edited by mrneutron May 8, 2024, 3:15 PM May 8, 2024, 2:58 PM

    I just saw this thread on longevity of the emmc in the 1100.
    https://forum.netgate.com/topic/170128/emmc-write-endurance

    It looks like ZFS creates more disk writes than UFS.
    But, we needed to move to ZFS in order to upgrade to the 2023 versions of firmware so we have ZFS now, and need to deal with it, or watch them get eaten alive.

    It sure seems like Netgate needs to roll in some kind of endurance measures into the stock firmware (like a RAMDISK?) to prevent ZFS from wearing out the emmc up prematurely.

    It looks like the SG-2100 has an option for an SSD, so maybe it would be able to avoid getting eaten alive by the ZFS and the OS?
    "Storage: 8 GB eMMC Flash onboard (or optional 128 GB M.2 SATA 2242 SSD)"
    https://shop.netgate.com/products/2100-max-pfsense

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      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
      last edited by May 8, 2024, 3:10 PM

      You don't need to use ZFS, you can install the 1100 as UFS. RAMdisks can be enabled, as I said, and UFS with RAMdisks is the lowest drive write setup.

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        mrneutron @stephenw10
        last edited by mrneutron May 8, 2024, 3:40 PM May 8, 2024, 3:30 PM

        @stephenw10 said in SG-1100 update from 23.09.1 to 24.03 keeps failing:

        You don't need to use ZFS, you can install the 1100 as UFS. RAMdisks can be enabled, as I said, and UFS with RAMdisks is the lowest drive write setup.

        But, with the upgrade to 23.03, the original UFS file system had an EFI partition that was too small to allow the upgrade, and Netgate really pushed moving to the ZFS file system, so I did.
        see:
        https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/troubleshooting/upgrades-1100-2100.html?hsCtaTracking=821601fb-1bc2-40c2-a65d-a631bcb219c6%7C58f3d6cd-6fd1-4339-9a58-ddc137771e9f&utm_campaign=Foundation%3A%20pfSense%20Buyer%20Journey&utm_medium=email&_hsenc=p2ANqtz--GmK5dXE7vgA1GS5OzPAVHtgCngk0W1FTR_1DzWcO44Ln61FfJPsxbaSBLCk838-KAr59MaQso_lFGhB1EovOSU53itA&_hsmi=249746989&utm_content=249746989&utm_source=hs_email

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          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
          last edited by May 8, 2024, 4:15 PM

          Yes, there are advantages to using ZFS but I'm just pointing out that you don't have to. You can still install UFS if you want to.

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            mrneutron @stephenw10
            last edited by mrneutron May 8, 2024, 5:33 PM May 8, 2024, 5:31 PM

            @stephenw10 said in SG-1100 update from 23.09.1 to 24.03 keeps failing:

            Yes, there are advantages to using ZFS but I'm just pointing out that you don't have to. You can still install UFS if you want to.

            Thanks for pointing that out.
            I had interpreted the Netgate ZFS recommendation as a requirement for upgrading to the 23.xx firmware. Now, that I reread it, I see that recommendation was just tacked on to the end of the reimage instructions, required to increase the size of the EFI partition.

            Given my presumed emmc failure experience with the SG-1100, I'm hesitant to buy another one and have a lifespan that is less than other options.

            My desire was for the SG-1100 to be more of an easy-to-use network appliance like a Linksys or a Netgear router.
            The SG-1100 was behaving like that until changing from UFS the ZFS (on Netgate's recommendation) in fall 2023, due to my 2019 SG-1100s having the small EFI partition.

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              mrneutron @SteveITS
              last edited by May 8, 2024, 5:55 PM

              @SteveITS said in SG-1100 update from 23.09.1 to 24.03 keeps failing:

              @mrneutron said in SG-1100 update from 23.09.1 to 24.03 keeps failing:

              SG-1100 does not have an SSD

              I'm aware. I meant, a package like NtopNG or HAProxy or Snort/Suricata, as listed in the "Storage Requirements" column. I believe Squid used to be listed there while it was supported. I'm not trying to argue with you, just asking.

              As for product life time, we've had clients with routers in service a long time. Disk life depends on what is written to disk. Everyone's use case varies. We typically turn off the logging of default block rules, and set a RAM disk, among other things. Some people like to log everything, and watch the dashboard all day which logs every web server request.

              Ok, fair enough. I just wanted to be sure you were keeping the scope of the possible fixes/changes confined to the limitations of the SG-1100.

              I'm really a very basic pfsense user. I've got an OpenVPN tunnel running from my home end to a remote end. That's about it beyond the normal firewall functions that come with pfsense. My desire was for the SG-1100 to be more of an easy-to-use network appliance like a Linksys or a Netgear router.
              Having an SG-1100 unit that has presumed emmc failure after 4 years, requiring hardware replacement, isn't cool.
              If Netgate knows that their emmc gets overly taxes, they should roll longevity precautions (like RAMDISK) into the pfsense OS by default and give us a checkbox to turn it on.

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                terryzb @mrneutron
                last edited by May 8, 2024, 6:53 PM

                @mrneutron

                Have a look at System->Advanced->Miscellaneous->RAM Disk Settings

                https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/config/advanced-misc.html#ram-disk-settings

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                  mrneutron @terryzb
                  last edited by May 8, 2024, 7:53 PM

                  @terryzb said in SG-1100 update from 23.09.1 to 24.03 keeps failing:

                  @mrneutron

                  Have a look at System->Advanced->Miscellaneous->RAM Disk Settings

                  https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/config/advanced-misc.html#ram-disk-settings

                  @terryzb
                  Thanks! I'll check and see if my SG-1100 has that enabled.

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                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by May 8, 2024, 8:55 PM

                    Indeed there is checkbox to turn it on. But perhaps a further question might be whether it should be enabled by default in some configurations. It does restrict what you can use. And it obviously uses RAM which is important on the 1100 which only has 1GB.

                    One potential option here is that the new Net Installer will install to any available drive including USB. It's possible to install to a USB drive and boot from that.
                    It does require manually changing the bootcmd env in uboot though.

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                      mrneutron
                      last edited by mrneutron May 9, 2024, 2:14 AM May 9, 2024, 1:41 AM

                      Here's the log from the failed Online Network Installer attempt.
                      I can't see any big clues as to the failed partitioning.

                      root@pfSense-install:~ # cd /tmp
                      root@pfSense-install:/tmp # ls
                      .ICE-unix               .font-unix              bsdinstall_etc          recovered_config
                      .X11-unix               bsdinstall-tmp-fstab    bsdinstall_log          tmp.zf1blw5xTi
                      .XIM-unix               bsdinstall_boot         mnt_recovery
                      root@pfSense-install:/tmp # cat bsdinstall_log
                      DEBUG: Running installation step: auto
                      DEBUG: dialog.subr: DEBUG_SELF_INITIALIZE=[]
                      DEBUG: UNAME_S=[FreeBSD] UNAME_P=[aarch64] UNAME_R=[15.0-CURRENT]
                      DEBUG: common.subr: Successfully loaded.
                      DEBUG: f_include: file=[/usr/share/bsdconfig/dialog.subr]
                      DEBUG: dialog.subr: loading includes...
                      DEBUG: f_include: file=[/usr/share/bsdconfig/strings.subr]
                      DEBUG: strings.subr: Successfully loaded.
                      DEBUG: f_include: file=[/usr/share/bsdconfig/variable.subr]
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: loading includes...
                      DEBUG: f_include: file=[/usr/share/bsdconfig/dialog.subr]
                      DEBUG: f_include: file=[/usr/share/bsdconfig/strings.subr]
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: New variable VAR_CONFIG_FILE -> configFile
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: New variable VAR_DEBUG -> debug
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: New variable VAR_DEBUG_FILE -> debugFile
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: New variable VAR_DIRECTORY_PATH -> _directoryPath
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: New variable VAR_DOMAINNAME -> domainname
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: New variable VAR_EDITOR -> editor
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: New variable VAR_EXTRAS -> ifconfig_
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: New variable VAR_GATEWAY -> defaultrouter
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: New variable VAR_GROUP -> group
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: New variable VAR_GROUP_GID -> groupGid
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: New variable VAR_GROUP_MEMBERS -> groupMembers
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: New variable VAR_GROUP_PASSWORD -> groupPassword
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: New variable VAR_HOSTNAME -> hostname
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: New variable VAR_HTTP_DIR -> httpDirectory
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: New variable VAR_HTTP_FTP_MODE -> httpFtpMode
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: New variable VAR_HTTP_HOST -> httpHost
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: New variable VAR_HTTP_PATH -> _httpPath
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: New variable VAR_HTTP_PORT -> httpPort
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: New variable VAR_HTTP_PROXY -> httpProxy
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: New variable VAR_HTTP_PROXY_HOST -> httpProxyHost
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: New variable VAR_HTTP_PROXY_PATH -> _httpProxyPath
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: New variable VAR_HTTP_PROXY_PORT -> httpProxyPort
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: New variable VAR_IFCONFIG -> ifconfig_
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: New variable VAR_IPADDR -> ipaddr
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: New variable VAR_IPV6ADDR -> ipv6addr
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: New variable VAR_IPV6_ENABLE -> ipv6_activate_all_interfaces
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: New variable VAR_KEYMAP -> keymap
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: New variable VAR_MEDIA_TIMEOUT -> MEDIA_TIMEOUT
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: New variable VAR_MEDIA_TYPE -> mediaType
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: New variable VAR_NAMESERVER -> nameserver
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: New variable VAR_NETINTERACTIVE -> netInteractive
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: New variable VAR_NETMASK -> netmask
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: New variable VAR_NETWORK_DEVICE -> netDev
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: New variable VAR_NFS_HOST -> nfsHost
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: New variable VAR_NFS_PATH -> nfsPath
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: New variable VAR_NFS_SECURE -> nfs_reserved_port_only
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: New variable VAR_NFS_TCP -> nfs_use_tcp
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: New variable VAR_NFS_V3 -> nfs_use_v3
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: New variable VAR_NONINTERACTIVE -> nonInteractive
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: New variable VAR_NO_CONFIRM -> noConfirm
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: New variable VAR_NO_ERROR -> noError
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: New variable VAR_NO_INET6 -> noInet6
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: New variable VAR_PACKAGE -> package
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: New variable VAR_PKG_TMPDIR -> PKG_TMPDIR
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: New variable VAR_PORTS_PATH -> ports
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: New variable VAR_RELNAME -> releaseName
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: New variable VAR_SLOW_ETHER -> slowEthernetCard
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: New variable VAR_TRY_DHCP -> tryDHCP
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: New variable VAR_TRY_RTSOL -> tryRTSOL
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: New variable VAR_UFS_PATH -> ufs
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: New variable VAR_USER -> user
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: New variable VAR_USER_ACCOUNT_EXPIRE -> userAccountExpire
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: New variable VAR_USER_DOTFILES_CREATE -> userDotfilesCreate
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: New variable VAR_USER_GECOS -> userGecos
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: New variable VAR_USER_GID -> userGid
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: New variable VAR_USER_GROUPS -> userGroups
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: New variable VAR_USER_GROUP_DELETE -> userGroupDelete
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: New variable VAR_USER_HOME -> userHome
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: New variable VAR_USER_HOME_CREATE -> userHomeCreate
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: New variable VAR_USER_HOME_DELETE -> userHomeDelete
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: New variable VAR_USER_LOGIN_CLASS -> userLoginClass
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: New variable VAR_USER_PASSWORD -> userPassword
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: New variable VAR_USER_PASSWORD_EXPIRE -> userPasswordExpire
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: New variable VAR_USER_SHELL -> userShell
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: New variable VAR_USER_UID -> userUid
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: New variable VAR_ZFSINTERACTIVE -> zfsInteractive
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: VARIABLE_SELF_INITIALIZE=[1]
                      DEBUG: f_variable_set_defaults: Initializing defaults...
                      DEBUG: f_getvar: var=[debug] value=[1] r=0
                      DEBUG: f_getvar: var=[editor] value=[/usr/bin/ee] r=0
                      DEBUG: f_getvar: var=[hostname] value=[pfSense-install] r=0
                      DEBUG: f_getvar: var=[MEDIA_TIMEOUT] value=[300] r=0
                      DEBUG: f_getvar: var=[nfs_reserved_port_only] value=[NO] r=0
                      DEBUG: f_getvar: var=[nfs_use_tcp] value=[NO] r=0
                      DEBUG: f_getvar: var=[nfs_use_v3] value=[YES] r=0
                      DEBUG: f_getvar: var=[PKG_TMPDIR] value=[/var/tmp] r=0
                      DEBUG: f_getvar: var=[releaseName] value=[15.0-CURRENT] r=0
                      DEBUG: f_variable_set_defaults: Defaults initialized.
                      DEBUG: variable.subr: Successfully loaded.
                      DEBUG: f_include_lang: file=[/usr/libexec/bsdconfig/include/messages.subr] lang=[C.UTF-8]
                      DEBUG: dialog.subr: DIALOG_SELF_INITIALIZE=[1]
                      DEBUG: f_dialog_init: ARGV=[] GETOPTS_STDARGS=[dD:SX]
                      DEBUG: f_dialog_init: SECURE=[] USE_XDIALOG=[]
                      DEBUG: f_dialog_init: dialog(1) API initialized.
                      DEBUG: dialog.subr: Successfully loaded.
                      DEBUG: Began Installation at Tue Mar 12 07:19:10 UTC 2024
                      DEBUG: dialog.subr: DEBUG_SELF_INITIALIZE=[]
                      DEBUG: UNAME_S=[FreeBSD] UNAME_P=[aarch64] UNAME_R=[15.0-CURRENT]
                      DEBUG: common.subr: Successfully loaded.
                      DEBUG: f_debug_init: ARGV=[pfSense-config-restore] GETOPTS_STDARGS=[dD:]
                      DEBUG: f_debug_init: debug=[1] debugFile=[/tmp/bsdinstall_log]
                      DEBUG: Running installation step: pfSense-config-restore
                      DEBUG: dialog.subr: DEBUG_SELF_INITIALIZE=[]
                      DEBUG: UNAME_S=[FreeBSD] UNAME_P=[aarch64] UNAME_R=[15.0-CURRENT]
                      DEBUG: common.subr: Successfully loaded.
                      DEBUG: f_debug_init: ARGV=[pfSense-netconfig] GETOPTS_STDARGS=[dD:]
                      DEBUG: f_debug_init: debug=[1] debugFile=[/tmp/bsdinstall_log]
                      DEBUG: Running installation step: pfSense-netconfig
                      DEBUG: dialog.subr: DEBUG_SELF_INITIALIZE=[]
                      DEBUG: UNAME_S=[FreeBSD] UNAME_P=[aarch64] UNAME_R=[15.0-CURRENT]
                      DEBUG: common.subr: Successfully loaded.
                      DEBUG: f_debug_init: ARGV=[pfSense-sysinfo] GETOPTS_STDARGS=[dD:]
                      DEBUG: f_debug_init: debug=[1] debugFile=[/tmp/bsdinstall_log]
                      DEBUG: Running installation step: pfSense-sysinfo
                      DEBUG: f_getvar: var=[nonInteractive] value=[] r=1
                      DEBUG: smbios.system.maker=[Marvell]
                      DEBUG: smbios.system.product=[mvebu_armada-37xx]
                      DEBUG: smbios.system.version=[]
                      DEBUG: smbios.planar.maker=[Marvell]
                      DEBUG: smbios.planar.product=[mvebu_armada-37xx]
                      DEBUG: dialog.subr: DEBUG_SELF_INITIALIZE=[]
                      DEBUG: UNAME_S=[FreeBSD] UNAME_P=[aarch64] UNAME_R=[15.0-CURRENT]
                      DEBUG: common.subr: Successfully loaded.
                      DEBUG: f_debug_init: ARGV=[pfSense-disk-part] GETOPTS_STDARGS=[dD:]
                      DEBUG: f_debug_init: debug=[1] debugFile=[/tmp/bsdinstall_log]
                      DEBUG: Running installation step: pfSense-disk-part
                      DEBUG: dialog.subr: DEBUG_SELF_INITIALIZE=[]
                      DEBUG: UNAME_S=[FreeBSD] UNAME_P=[aarch64] UNAME_R=[15.0-CURRENT]
                      DEBUG: common.subr: Successfully loaded.
                      DEBUG: f_debug_init: ARGV=[umount] GETOPTS_STDARGS=[dD:]
                      DEBUG: f_debug_init: debug=[1] debugFile=[/tmp/bsdinstall_log]
                      DEBUG: Running installation step: umount
                      DEBUG: f_dialog_max_size: bsddialog --print-maxsize = [MaxSize: 53, 121]
                      DEBUG: f_getvar: var=[height] value=[8] r=0
                      DEBUG: f_getvar: var=[width] value=[57] r=0
                      root@pfSense-install:/tmp #
                      
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                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                        last edited by May 9, 2024, 12:58 PM

                        Does it not create the install-log.txt file then?

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                          mrneutron @stephenw10
                          last edited by May 9, 2024, 2:21 PM

                          @stephenw10 said in SG-1100 update from 23.09.1 to 24.03 keeps failing:

                          Does it not create the install-log.txt file then?

                          I entered the ls command for the /tmp directory so we could see the contents.
                          There is no install-log.txt file.
                          Maybe that can give an indication of where in the upgrade process it all stopped?

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                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                            last edited by May 9, 2024, 2:59 PM

                            Yes, exactly it fails before it starts installing which makes sense since it appears to be while trying to partition the disk.

                            Ok so to boot the installer I assume you are running run usbrecovery at the marvell>> prompt? That should erase the eMMC but may fail to do so if the eMMC cannot be written.
                            You can confirm that by the number disks uboot reports at boot. It should show 5 disks if the eMMC has been correctly wiped:

                            USB1:   USB EHCI 1.00
                            scanning bus 0 for devices... 1 USB Device(s) found
                            scanning bus 1 for devices... 2 USB Device(s) found
                                   scanning usb for storage devices... 1 Storage Device(s) found
                                18022   armada-3720-netgate-1100.dtb
                                18022   armada-3720-sg1100.dtb
                                12944   armada-3720-netgate-2100.dtb
                                12944   armada-3720-sg2100.dtb
                            
                            4 file(s), 0 dir(s)
                            
                            845140 bytes read in 53 ms (15.2 MiB/s)
                            18022 bytes read in 22 ms (799.8 KiB/s)
                            ## Starting EFI application at 07000000 ...
                            Card did not respond to voltage select!
                            Scanning disk sdhci@d0000.blk...
                            Disk sdhci@d0000.blk not ready
                            Scanning disk sdhci@d8000.blk...
                            Scanning disk usb_mass_storage.lun0...
                            Found 5 disks
                            

                            If it shows 8 disks there after appearing to wipe the eMMC then it's likely become read-only.

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                              mrneutron @stephenw10
                              last edited by mrneutron May 9, 2024, 4:00 PM May 9, 2024, 3:23 PM

                              @stephenw10 said in SG-1100 update from 23.09.1 to 24.03 keeps failing:

                              Yes, exactly it fails before it starts installing which makes sense since it appears to be while trying to partition the disk.

                              Ok so to boot the installer I assume you are running run usbrecovery at the marvell>> prompt? That should erase the eMMC but may fail to do so if the eMMC cannot be written.

                              Yes, I'm running run usbrecovery at the marvell>> prompt.

                              You can confirm that by the number disks uboot reports at boot. It should show 5 disks if the eMMC has been correctly wiped:
                              If it shows 8 disks there after appearing to wipe the eMMC then it's likely become read-only.

                              I do recall seeing 8 disks in the serial text that flew by.

                              I turned on the RAMDISK last night.
                              I am seeing files (such as log files) being written with today's date/time.
                              I believe the /var/log directory is in the RAMDISK, so I guess that may explain why there are current log files being written today.

                              I guess I should turn off the RAMDISK again and see if new log file updates are possible?

                              [23.09.1-RELEASE][admin@tonka-gw1.duckdns.org]/var/log: ls -al | grep "May"
                              drwxr-xr-x   4 root wheel     59 May  9 09:50 .
                              -rw-------   1 root wheel 433505 May  9 10:06 auth.log
                              -rw-------   1 root wheel 337722 May  9 10:03 dhcpd.log
                              -rw-------   1 root wheel 512741 May  8 20:23 dhcpd.log.0
                              -rw-------   1 root wheel 243470 May  9 10:07 filter.log
                              -rw-------   1 root wheel 520284 May  9 09:50 filter.log.0
                              -rw-------   1 root wheel 521295 May  9 09:13 filter.log.1
                              -rw-------   1 root wheel 530007 May  9 08:36 filter.log.2
                              -rw-------   1 root wheel 523821 May  9 07:58 filter.log.3
                              -rw-------   1 root wheel 512765 May  9 07:20 filter.log.4
                              -rw-------   1 root wheel 515820 May  9 06:43 filter.log.5
                              -rw-------   1 root wheel 519551 May  9 06:06 filter.log.6
                              -rw-------   1 root wheel 208469 May  8 21:12 nginx.log
                              -rw-------   1 root wheel 177758 May  8 20:10 ntpd.log
                              -rw-------   1 root wheel  66845 May  9 10:06 openvpn.log
                              -rw-------   1 root wheel 512236 May  9 08:57 openvpn.log.0
                              -rw-------   1 root wheel 511737 May  8 23:55 openvpn.log.1
                              -rw-------   1 root wheel  23252 May  8 19:48 resolver.log
                              -rw-------   1 root wheel    970 May  9 10:05 system.log
                              -rw-------   1 root wheel 511106 May  9 07:21 system.log.0
                              -rw-r--r--   1 root wheel    394 May  9 10:05 utx.lastlogin
                              -rw-------   1 root wheel   2037 May  9 10:05 utx.log
                              
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                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                last edited by May 9, 2024, 3:38 PM

                                Hmm, perhaps only the partition table area then. Interesting, I don't think we've seen that before.

                                If you can confirm that it still shows 8 disks after erasing the emmc though something is not allowing that.

                                Or if you run usbrecovery without a USB drive present and then then reset and it still boots from emmc.

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                                  mrneutron @stephenw10
                                  last edited by mrneutron May 9, 2024, 4:30 PM May 9, 2024, 3:42 PM

                                  @stephenw10 said in SG-1100 update from 23.09.1 to 24.03 keeps failing:

                                  Hmm, perhaps only the partition table area then. Interesting, I don't think we've seen that before.

                                  If you can confirm that it still shows 8 disks after erasing the emmc though something is not allowing that.

                                  Or if you run usbrecovery without a USB drive present and then then reset and it still boots from emmc.

                                  I just revised my previous message regarding the log files, because I turned on the RAMDISK last night and I just realized that could confuse the diagnosis.

                                  I will try the update again and capture as much of the serial data as I can, so I can have a snapshot of what messages are going by.

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                                    mrneutron
                                    last edited by mrneutron May 9, 2024, 5:29 PM May 9, 2024, 5:11 PM

                                    I looked at the RAMDISK settings and they were off?!
                                    I guess my turn-on of the RAMDISK didn't take effect, even though I did restart, as advised by the pop-up message.

                                    I just clicked the RAMDISK box to ON and then OFF and then rebooted to be sure the RAMDISK was off.

                                    It shows it's off and the /var/log still has entries being written during the last 5 minutes.
                                    RAMDISK settings off 5-9-2024 12pm.jpg

                                    [23.09.1-RELEASE][admin@redacted]/var/log: ls -la | grep "May"
                                    drwxr-xr-x   4 root wheel     56 May  9 11:41 .
                                    -rw-------   1 root wheel 400581 May  9 12:05 auth.log
                                    -rw-------   1 root wheel 256298 May  9 12:06 dhcpd.log
                                    -rw-------   1 root wheel 500703 May  9 12:06 filter.log
                                    -rw-------   1 root wheel 549513 May  9 11:41 filter.log.0
                                    -rw-------   1 root wheel 195573 May  9 12:03 nginx.log
                                    -rw-------   1 root wheel 177772 May  9 11:57 ntpd.log
                                    -rw-------   1 root wheel 295779 May  9 12:05 openvpn.log
                                    -rw-------   1 root wheel  41370 May  9 11:40 resolver.log
                                    -rw-------   1 root wheel 507949 May  9 12:03 system.log
                                    -rw-r--r--   1 root wheel    394 May  9 12:02 utx.lastlogin
                                    -rw-------   1 root wheel   2037 May  9 12:02 utx.log
                                    
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                                      SteveITS Galactic Empire @mrneutron
                                      last edited by May 9, 2024, 5:20 PM

                                      @mrneutron The RAM disk setting requires a restart to turn on.

                                      The log file will always have current timestamps. It's just a matter of where they are being saved.

                                      If you are concerned about logs, you may want to put a number in that Log Directory field, for instance, to copy logs to eMMC storage every "n" hours. Otherwise they are copied during a clean halt/restart.

                                      if on it will show in the dashboard Disks widget:
                                      ed4a7691-aeeb-4fe4-a27e-769be2d90286-image.png

                                      Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
                                      When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
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                                        mrneutron @SteveITS
                                        last edited by May 9, 2024, 5:23 PM

                                        @SteveITS said in SG-1100 update from 23.09.1 to 24.03 keeps failing:

                                        @mrneutron The RAM disk setting requires a restart to turn on.

                                        The log file will always have current timestamps. It's just a matter of where they are being saved.

                                        If you are concerned about logs, you may want to put a number in that Log Directory field, for instance, to copy logs to eMMC storage every "n" hours. Otherwise they are copied during a clean halt/restart.

                                        if on it will show in the dashboard Disks widget:
                                        ed4a7691-aeeb-4fe4-a27e-769be2d90286-image.png

                                        @SteveITS, right now, I'm trying to determine if my emmc chip is still working correctly. Thus, I'm trying to determine if any files are being successfully written to it.

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                                          SteveITS Galactic Empire @mrneutron
                                          last edited by May 9, 2024, 5:33 PM

                                          @mrneutron Ah, I see. IIRC you need to restart to "lose" files with ZFS(?) since hides it due to caching. Try creating a file and restarting, to see if it's still there.

                                          Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
                                          When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
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