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    Topton N100 Reporting 402 MHz

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      roxy @JohnnyUtah1054
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      Hi @JohnnyUtah1054 ,

      no I didnt see anything about 1.nsh.
      You can try to use my binary custom bin file. It worked. An it is still working right now. I didn't changed from that moment. Everything works smoothly. I am happy with 2.5 GHz network + firewall.

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        grety @roxy
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        @roxy Hey looks like the images have been deleted from this thread, any chance you can share the iso again please?

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          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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          The link to the ISO is still good. It's only the screenshots that were uploaded that are no longer available.

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            roxy @grety
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            @grety ,
            the link to my Google Drive is still alive ;-)
            https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1k60AVx_5Yl_8JkP8lvAryoa0ALUSv0Gv

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              grety @roxy
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              @roxy Thanks for the link!
              However I get the same error another use had 1.nsh is not recognized, maybe we've got different hardware.

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                McG800 @grety
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                @grety Do you have an NVME drive installed? I was getting this error as well, but once I removed the drive it worked like it should have.

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                  chrcoluk
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                  Interesting, these topton n100's ship with a really crippled bios, can change hardly anything, they have also have a high default power limit as well. So it is tempting to flash.

                  pfSense CE 2.7.2

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                    binhex01 @chrcoluk
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                    Super useful post, thanks for the details guys, i managed to get my cheap Chinese N100 BIOS flashed with 'Power & Performance' unlocked which then allowed me to set PL1 and PL2 and finally get some decent performance out of the box (was getting stuck at 402 Mhz on all cores like the OP).

                    So I have written up exactly what i did including photos from 'thys' forum post over on servethehome.com and the modified BIOS with full instruction on how to flash it and bundled it up into a zip HERE.

                    IMPORTANT - Please ensure you read the ENTIRE readme.txt (included in the zip) before considering flashing the BIOS.

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                      alirx
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                      Greetings, guys!

                      I have 6-port CWWK N100 box (CW-AL_6L), no PL settings in bios as well, although mine boost fine, but gets quite hot (around 50C doing basically nothing as it's not yet configured for things i want it to do, and that's after I changed thermal paste to smth decent). So I'd like to lower power limits (I belive they are set to 25W by default, but have no way to confirm it).

                      I've managed to find and flash newer BIOS for this box on CWWK site, thinking that it would unlock it. But no.

                      How exactly do you mod the bios for your 4 port version?

                      Or should i even bother and better to look into SpeedShift tunables and try to adjust power consumption that way?

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                        Tzvia @alirx
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                        @alirx I have that CWWK 6 port box (the version with the tall heat-sync fins) running PFSense and yea it got hot because the settings are locked-down and not visible on the bios provided by CWWK. Not set optimally by default, that's for sure. There has been at least one 'third party' bios mod for this found on the Serve the Home Forums, (https://forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/cwwk-i5-1235u-6-port-i226-report.39341/) by user 'fta', you really have to read through the posts and be 100% positive that it is compatible with your board revision before making the attempt. I read through it, opened the case of my router, compared what i had to his and others there and decided to take the chance. Thankfully in my case it worked. With the settings exposed via the modded bios, I was able to apply the recommended settings from that long thread and mine now idles in the mid-upper 20s' c. I've got the 8505CPU btw. But 'out of the box' mine was disappointing, to say the least.

                        Tzvia

                        Current build:
                        Hunsn/CWWK Pentium Gold 8505, 6x i226v 'micro firewall'
                        16 gigs ram
                        500gig WD Blue nvme
                        Using modded BIOS (enabled CSTATES)
                        PFSense 2.72-RELEASE
                        Enabled Intel SpeedShift
                        Snort
                        PFBlockerNG
                        LAN and 5 VLANS

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                          chrcoluk @binhex01
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                          @binhex01 Are you able to provide a link to the ISO? link for that is dead.

                          pfSense CE 2.7.2

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                            binhex01 @chrcoluk
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                            @chrcoluk said in Topton N100 Reporting 402 MHz:

                            @binhex01 Are you able to provide a link to the ISO? link for that is dead.

                            The google drive zip i uploaded works for me (tested incognito), not sure what you mean by ISO?. this is a BIOS hack.

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                              chrcoluk @binhex01
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                              @binhex01 The servethehome instructions say to use the bios you uploaded inside another ISO, that ISO is to be downloaded from another link (which is now dead), sorry I just checked the readme again and that doesnt use the ISO, so I will try that after I verify I have the right board.

                              pfSense CE 2.7.2

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                                binhex01 @chrcoluk
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                                @chrcoluk said in Topton N100 Reporting 402 MHz:

                                @binhex01 The servethehome instructions say to use the bios you uploaded inside another ISO, that ISO is to be downloaded from another link (which is now dead), sorry I just checked the readme again and that doesnt use the ISO, so I will try that after I verify I have the right board.

                                Yes, just to confirm the ISO was only used as a means to extract the utilities required to flash the bios (not the bios itself), this has been done for you and is all included in the zip, so you should be good to go (once verified you have the correct board).

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                                  sammyke007 @binhex01
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                                  @binhex01 is your N100 still running stable with these settings? I've flashed the unlocked bios succesfully, but I haven't changed any settings. My N100 from Topton keeps freezing/rebooting every +- 24h...

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                                    binhex01 @sammyke007
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                                    @sammyke007 said in Topton N100 Reporting 402 MHz:

                                    @binhex01 is your N100 still running stable with these settings? I've flashed the unlocked bios succesfully, but I haven't changed any settings. My N100 from Topton keeps freezing/rebooting every +- 24h...

                                    Yep 100% solid, no crashes or hangs whatsoever, of note i am using OpnSense not pfSense.

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                                      sammyke007 @binhex01
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                                      @binhex01

                                      Me too 😊
                                      May I ask what RAM brand/type you are using?
                                      I'm running with Crucial and memtest shows 0 errors on multiple runs, but the freezing and/or rebooting keeps happening daily.

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                                        binhex01 @sammyke007
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                                        @sammyke007 said in Topton N100 Reporting 402 MHz:

                                        @binhex01

                                        Me too 😊
                                        May I ask what RAM brand/type you are using?
                                        I'm running with Crucial and memtest shows 0 errors on multiple runs, but the freezing and/or rebooting keeps happening daily.

                                        I went with a prebuilt box with RAM included, no idea what the brand or type it is, sorry, all i can tell you is i have 16GB.

                                        Edit - Looks like i can use 'dmidecode' to extract some of the info you want:-

                                        Memory Device
                                                Array Handle: 0x003B
                                                Error Information Handle: Not Provided
                                                Total Width: 64 bits
                                                Data Width: 64 bits
                                                Size: 16 GB
                                                Form Factor: SODIMM
                                                Set: None
                                                Locator: Controller0-ChannelA-DIMM0
                                                Bank Locator: BANK 0
                                                Type: DDR5
                                                Type Detail: Synchronous
                                                Speed: 4800 MT/s
                                                Manufacturer: Crucial Technology
                                                Serial Number: E8FE397C
                                                Asset Tag: 9876543210
                                                Part Number: CT16G48C40S5.C8A1   
                                                Rank: 1
                                                Configured Memory Speed: 4800 MT/s
                                                Minimum Voltage: 1.1 V
                                                Maximum Voltage: 1.1 V
                                                Configured Voltage: 1.1 V
                                                Memory Technology: DRAM
                                                Memory Operating Mode Capability: Volatile memory
                                                Firmware Version: Not Specified
                                                Module Manufacturer ID: Bank 6, Hex 0x9B
                                                Module Product ID: Unknown
                                                Memory Subsystem Controller Manufacturer ID: Unknown
                                                Memory Subsystem Controller Product ID: Unknown
                                                Non-Volatile Size: None
                                                Volatile Size: 16 GB
                                                Cache Size: None
                                                Logical Size: None
                                        
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                                          sammyke007 @binhex01
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                                          @binhex01 tnx, that's exact the same as my RAM.

                                          Are these the only changes you've made in BIOS to make it run stable?

                                          - Go to Advanced/Power & Performance/CPU - Power Management Control/
                                          	set Platform PL1 Enable		[Enabled]
                                          	set Platform PL1 Power		9000
                                          	set Platform PL1 Time Windows	[28]
                                          	Set Platform PL2 Enable		[Enabled]
                                          	Set Platform PL2 Power		25000
                                          - Go to Advanced/Power & Performance/CPU - Power Management Control/HDC Control/View-Configure Turbo Options/
                                          	Power Limit 1 Override		[Enabled]
                                          	Power Limit 1			9000
                                          	Power Limit 1 Time Window	[28]
                                          	Power Limit 2 Override		[Enabled]
                                          	Power Limit 2			25000
                                          - Go to Save & Exit/Save Changes and Reset
                                          - Boot into OPNSense/pfSense
                                          - Disable Powerd (in OPNSense - go to System: Settings: Miscellaneous: Use PowerD (untick) and Save)
                                          
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                                            binhex01 @sammyke007
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                                            @sammyke007 said in Topton N100 Reporting 402 MHz:

                                            @binhex01 tnx, that's exact the same as my RAM.

                                            Are these the only changes you've made in BIOS to make it run stable?

                                            - Go to Advanced/Power & Performance/CPU - Power Management Control/
                                            	set Platform PL1 Enable		[Enabled]
                                            	set Platform PL1 Power		9000
                                            	set Platform PL1 Time Windows	[28]
                                            	Set Platform PL2 Enable		[Enabled]
                                            	Set Platform PL2 Power		25000
                                            - Go to Advanced/Power & Performance/CPU - Power Management Control/HDC Control/View-Configure Turbo Options/
                                            	Power Limit 1 Override		[Enabled]
                                            	Power Limit 1			9000
                                            	Power Limit 1 Time Window	[28]
                                            	Power Limit 2 Override		[Enabled]
                                            	Power Limit 2			25000
                                            - Go to Save & Exit/Save Changes and Reset
                                            - Boot into OPNSense/pfSense
                                            - Disable Powerd (in OPNSense - go to System: Settings: Miscellaneous: Use PowerD (untick) and Save)
                                            

                                            From memory, that looks about right, yes, I did try and document what i tweaked exactly in the doc that i included in the zip, and i assume the above is taken from that, so that should be what i have set.

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