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    SG-2440 un-reachable via PUTTY or GUI

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    • dareysD
      dareys
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      I cannot access the console, I get an error when I try to open a serial session on COM3 with Putty.

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      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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        What error do you see?

        What are you connecting from?

        Is it creating the virtual port on com3?

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        • dareysD
          dareys
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          My setup is as follows:

          Computer A: is connected to the SG-2440 via ethernet cable
          also connected to internet

          Computer B: not curently connected to internet
          is conected to the SG-2440 via serial cable
          Putty session from here worked COM3, serial, 115200

          The error I get now:

          Unable to open connection to COM3
          Opening ´\.\COM3´: Error 2: The system cannot find the file specified.

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          • stephenw10S
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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            When you connect the USB cable is com3 the port that is created? It could be any port >2.

            I assume you're connecting from Windows, which version?

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            • dareysD
              dareys
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              That is a good question.

              Last time I did this I incorrectly assumed it was COM1 but was somehow able to "see" which port was created in the device manager,..

              Unfortunately, I can no longer remember how I did that and I cannot find help online (it doesn´t help that the computer is configured in Spanish).

              I am running Windows 11, thank you.

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                SteveITS Galactic Empire @dareys
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                @dareys Device manager will list it as a serial port under Ports:
                https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/solutions/sg-2440/connect-to-console.html#locate-the-console-port-device

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                • dareysD
                  dareys
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                  Thank you for picking this up.

                  That is the trouble, I do not see the PORTS as in this picture.

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                    SteveITS Galactic Empire @dareys
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                    @dareys Try a different USB port on the computer. Sometimes Windows needs to see a device “new.”

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                    • dareysD
                      dareys
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                      Great suggestion. I just did. No change using COM1, COM2 or COM3.

                      It really seems that the SG is just not processing the connection?

                      Perhaps a disk full condition?

                      What do you think about trying the reset button and wiping out anything running on the machine, starting from scratch?

                      Or perhaps conecting the cable to another USB port on another machine?

                      Thank you.

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                        SteveITS Galactic Empire @dareys
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                        @dareys Try another cable? The software on the router isn’t related to the port detection. Win 11 should just work per the docs.

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                        • dareysD
                          dareys
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                          I don´t do this very often, I don´t have a "spare" cable, this cable has very little mileage...

                          In addition the fact that the GUI would not load either makes me think the problem is elsewhere....

                          So, if I go buy a new cable and have the same result, then what? At this point perhaps pushing the reset button is the best next move.

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                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                            The reset button will not help connecting the console cable. The reset procedure on the 2440 with reset the config but not the OS. And it can only work if the unit is booting far enough to reach the reset stage.

                            The serial console should always work even if there is no OS installed. It's just a hardware USB to serial chip, you should see the output from the BIOS etc.

                            I would try a different client device if you can.

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                            • dareysD
                              dareys
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                              I just installed CP210x_Universal_Windows_Driver on another computer, rebooted and reconnected the SG-2440, immediately received a message indicating that the USB device was not recognized.

                              Unbelievably, you might be right, the cable is defective... I have a hard time with the idea, because this is the second "defective" cable I buy in the last four years, hardly ever been used.

                              I will see about replacing it before going any further. Thank you.

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                              • stephenw10S
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                last edited by

                                Yeah, we have seen some cable issues that are hard to believe. Like the device is recogised but no data is received. No idea how that can happen.

                                Some cables just don;t pass the data at all, power only, so the device just never appears.

                                Either way trying a different cable to be sure is a good idea.

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                                • dareysD
                                  dareys
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                                  I just came back from the a local electronics shop.

                                  When I explained the problem, the sales person tested data flow from one end to the other.

                                  I was about to buy a "new" cable regardless but the sales person said he did not think the cable is the issue.

                                  And, if so, perhaps I should buy an "official" cable, even if I have to wait a few days for it to arrive.

                                  I did not see an "official" recomendation on the documentation I have been looking at
                                  https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/solutions/xg-7100/connect-to-console.html

                                  Any thoughts?

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                                  • stephenw10S
                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                    Indeed there is no recommended cable. Any cable that carries data and power should work.

                                    if you have some other client type you can test with I would try that.

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                                    • dareysD
                                      dareys
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                                      Again, thank you for your suggestions, the sales person had the same.

                                      I am looking through my old equipment to find out if I can test the cable with an old cell phone.

                                      It might work on my old Blackberry or my old Motorola, I will let you know

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                                      • dareysD
                                        dareys
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                                        I tried connecting the cable to an old Motorola cell phone with no charge, the phone lit up, so the cable is carrying power.

                                        However, the phone indicates that this is not a recognized charging device,..

                                        That brings me to the point that perhaps my cable "was" working but now the SG-2440 does not recognize it as a "certified" cable?

                                        Hence my question to buy a Netgate certified "cable"...

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                                        • stephenw10S
                                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                          Nope there is nothing special about the cable. In fact the 2440 can't 'see' the cable at all it only sees the serial port side of the chip.

                                          It could still be a cable issue. As I said we have seen some weird issues with cables.

                                          It could be a driver issue. Testing from a Mac or Linux client that uses a different driver would be a good test if you can.

                                          You can connect it to another pfSense device if you have one. The driver is built in to pfSense/FreeBSD.

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                                          • dareysD
                                            dareys
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                                            This is not something I do frequently or for a living, I am just trying to setup a better firewall, vpn solution for my home office and leverage equipment I bought in 2015 but have not managed to get going.

                                            I don´t have a Mac or access to Linux environment (or not easily) so all I can do is buy a new cable and try on my existing windows equipment after downloading and re-installing the drivers.

                                            I guess if that doesn´t work, then the device must be fried.

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